Why is revenge acceptable for Shikamaru and Team Asuma

[Nagi]

They attacked Sasuke because Sasuke intended to kill others, is there some kind of disconnect going on here?

That's their fault and risk. Sasuke only wanted Danzo's head. They should just ask what he want and take him to Danzo. But nawww, It's biology to attack a person who don't belong there in the first place. So there is no "innocent" here.

 

[TrollKing]

They attacked Sasuke because Sasuke intended to kill others, is there some kind of disconnect going on here?

They attacked sasuke because they were ordered to

 

[V h o]

lol yes i do know what Innocent means. Them samurais attacked Sasuke first. When you attack, you tend to cause physical injury. Therefore, you're not Innocent.

Just click the link, your definition is wrong. Innocent is not about being a non aggressor, it's about being on the side of the law.

It doesn't matter if the samurai attacked first, when Sasuke was already wrong by coming to the meeting as a criminal.

 

[-Spoiler-]

Your answer is to use the "criminal's perspective". In sasuke perspective, they are not so innocent, and sasuke believes what he doing is right

What Sasuke believes means jack. they're nothing to justify killing people because you believe they're not innocent.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

That's their fault and risk. Sasuke only wanted Danzo's head. They should just ask what he want and take him to Danzo. But nawww, It's biology to attack a person who don't belong there in the first place. So there is no "innocent" here.

I'm, except that's not what guards f*cking do, if Bin Laden walked in with a gun and "Just wanted to kill the president" would the guards be wrong for riddling him with bullets?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

They attacked sasuke because they were ordered to

Or maybe because he was in the middle of committing an international act of terror?

 

[Nagi]

@Bold please tell me you know the difference between killing and Murder?

Murder is what the intention to kill. Killing can be accident or whatever. If Im a solider on the battlefield with people who plan to kill too, Im not innocent cuz i plan to kill them if it come down to it.

Innocent is you have nothing to do with it but stuck in the problem and there is no way to walk away from it.

 

[maniaoqan]

Danzo was under protection of Samurai same as other Kage. That was a neutral zone and Samurai were in charge of meeting and protection. They brought only 2 bodyguards as a sign of their trust to the Samurai's neutrality. So if you decide to kill someone who is under the protection of Samurai, you have to go through them first. Honor of Samurai was in stake you cant expect them to let Sasuke as he please.

 

[Joker]

Because Naruto is an unrelateable character in general.

 

[TrollingSage]

lol You not Innocent. You just tried to take matter into your own hands. A lawyer can tell you that.

Hmm . It seems you're not taking context into account. For example If i say "the shoot out between the police and the gang resulted in 4 innocent bystanders being killed". I don't mean those bystanders are actually free of all crimes. They could have been rapists or pedophiles for all we know. Here the word innocent means they had no involvement in that particular fight. It's the same context with Samurai. The samurai had no affiliation whatsoever with Sasuke's revenge or Danzo or the Konoha elders. They were simply there to do their jobs . Even Sasuke knew that, thats why he asked Suigetsu and Juugo not to kill them

 

[spade3dg]

Seems we cant get intelligent answers from 2014 members.

Always avoid the questions and never are polite

 

[Nagi]

I'm, except that's not what guards f*cking do, if Bin Laden walked in with a gun and "Just wanted to kill the president" would the guards be wrong for riddling him with bullets?

lol The guards are not wrong BUT THEY NOT INNOCENT LOL.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Murder is what the intention to kill. Killing can be accident or whatever. If Im a solider on the battlefield with people who plan to kill too, Im not innocent cuz i plan to kill them if it come down to it.

Innocent is you have nothing to do with it but stuck in the problem and there is no way to walk away from it.

So, you're a coward, okay, got it.

 

[Nagi]

Hmm . It seems you're not taking context into account. For example If i say "the shoot out between the police and the gang resulted in 4 innocent bystanders being killed". I don't mean those bystanders are actually free of all crimes. They could have been rapists or pedophiles for all we know. Here the word innocent means they had no involvement in that particular fight. It's the same context with Samurai. The samurai had no affiliation whatsoever with Sasuke's revenge or Danzo or the Konoha elders. They were simply there to do their jobs . Even Sasuke knew that, thats why he asked Suigetsu and Juugo not to kill them

Them Samurai had no affiliation whatsoever with Sasuke's revenge....yet they decided to attack him. The moment they attacked Sasuke, they stop being Innocent. If you working a job that can have you killing another person, you're not innocent in any problems that you was doing your job. Blame your Boss for making work a dangerous job then.

 

[TrollKing]

What Sasuke believes means jack. they're nothing to justify killing people because you believe they're not innocent.

That applies to every ninjas as well. Ninjutsu is to kill people Lol

 

[Dannie]

So it doesn't matter that a criminal came to a diplomatic meeting, aiming to kill on of the members of the diplomatic meeting? The samurai are still guilty because they upheld the peace of the meeting?

What's the point in being a guard if you're not going to expect danger?

 

[Exaar]

Naruto's Revenge = Wanting to kill Nagato. He did not want to kill everyone from the Rain village simply because Nagato wronged him.

Shikamaru's Revenge = Wanting to kill/defeat Hidan. He did not want to kill anyone else.

Sasuke = Wanting to Kill people who wronged Itachi and Wanted to kill everyone in the village even though they had nothing to do with what happened to itachi/Uchiha clan.

Theres quite a large difference killing the person who wronged you and wanting to slaughter innocent people who had nothing to do with the event you wanted revenge for.

 

[Nagi]

So, you're a coward, okay, got it.

Im a coward? Im lost. But okay.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Im a coward? Im lost. But okay.

You're a coward because, based on your posts, you'd be the type of soldier to abandon a battlefield to save his own ass, rather than staying to protect his comrades.

 

[V h o]

What's the point in being a guard if you're not going to expect danger?

Doesn't matter on expecting danger or not, the fact is the danger if caused by a personal/organization is the guilty party.