Why is revenge acceptable for Shikamaru and Team Asuma

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So it doesn't matter that a criminal came to a diplomatic meeting, aiming to kill on of the members of the diplomatic meeting? The samurai are still guilty because they upheld the peace of the meeting?

Them Samurais know damn well that being Guard means putting your life on the line. You can't demand to be innocent if you're risking your life in the first place. Now if a Guard tried to avoid fighting Sasuke, that guard is innocent.
 

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Key word "Your house". You're more Innocent than white on white rice. you can rape, kill, cut up, do whatever the **** you want to that person and still be innocent. Because he came into your house. Them Samurais are not the target and decided to be in the way by choice. That is why they're not Innocent.
Sasuke invaded the Land of Iron which is home to the samurais so tell me how they're not innocent again? the summit was their Jobs to protect and Sasuke was the attacker should have just let him pass?

let me put it to you simpler the leader of your country is having a conference with leaders of other countries should the bodyguards protect their leaders from the criminal attacking or let him pass because they're not the targets?
 

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The difference between a hospital guard or a guard at any other legal instititution is that those guards usually don't know anything about what goes on behind the scenes. You don't see security guards being arrested when a legit company is found to be involved in not so legal activities. A guard at a drug cartel however, fully knows he's guarding a drug cartel. Stop comparing apples and oranges son
SMH. This is a genuine question. Do you have any idea where the meeting was being held?

Them Guards knows who SASUKE UCHIHA IS. They had a choice to walk away. They chose their job over their life. the word "innocent" is out of the window here.
 

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Them Guards knows who SASUKE UCHIHA IS. They had a choice to walk away. They chose their job over their life. the word "innocent" is out of the window here.

So, they chose to do their duty and protect lives over being selfish cowards and running away, are they wrong for that?

Also, Sasuke wasn't notable yet, all that was known was that he was a reasonably strong young ninja who was kicking it with Orochimaru. No one knew he killed Orochimaru yet, and word of Itachi's death was just starting to spread, his attack on the Gokage Summit is why he's known.
 

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If you try to tell a criminal that someone is innocent, you would use his perspective of innocent or your own perspective of innocent?
Even by him perspective he knows what he's doing is wrong. when it comes to crime philosophy means crap
adjective1.free from moral wrong; without sin; pure:innocent children.


2.free from legal or specific wrong; guiltless:innocent of the crime.


3.not involving evil intent or motive:an innocent misrepresentation.
 

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Sasuke invaded the Land of Iron which is home to the samurais so tell me how they're not innocent again? the summit was their Jobs to protect and Sasuke was the attacker should have just let him pass?

let me put it to you simpler the leader of your country is having a conference with leaders of other countries should the bodyguards protect their leaders from the criminal attacking or let him pass because they're not the targets?

If you doing a job that require you to risk your life fighting somebody or killing somebody, you're not Innocent period lol. If I was a cop or solider, I will never consider myself innocent because I have a gun and will take somebody life away on the job.
 

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Them Guards knows who SASUKE UCHIHA IS. They had a choice to walk away. They chose their job over their life. the word "innocent" is out of the window here.

So if happen to walk in on a famous gang attempting to molest a little girl and I choose to attack them to save her, according to you, I man no longer innocent since I chose to attack a well known criminal right?
 

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So, they chose to do their duty and protect lives over being selfish cowards and running away, are they wrong for that?

Also, Sasuke wasn't notable yet, all that was known was that he was a reasonably strong young I jam who was kicking it with Orochimaru. No one knew he killed Orochimaru yet, and word of Itachi's death was just starting to spread, his attack on the Gokage Summit is why he's known.

lol There is no right or wrong here as there is no innocent or guilty here. You decided to risk your life by attacking somebody regardless of reason. You not innocent period!. Bee is innocent because Sasuke came after him and attack him!!
 

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Them Samurais know damn well that being Guard means putting your life on the line. You can't demand to be innocent if you're risking your life in the first place. Now if a Guard tried to avoid fighting Sasuke, that guard is innocent.

You do know what means right?

free from moral wrong; without sin; pure:
innocent children.
2.
free from legal or specific wrong; guiltless:

There was no crime for the samurai to be guilty of.
 

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So if happen to walk in on a famous gang attempting to molest a little girl and I choose to attack them to save her, according to you, I man no longer innocent since I chose to attack a well known criminal right?

lol You not Innocent. You just tried to take matter into your own hands. A lawyer can tell you that.
 

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The difference between a hospital guard or a guard at any other legal instititution is that those guards usually don't know anything about what goes on behind the scenes. You don't see security guards being arrested when a legit company is found to be involved in not so legal activities. A guard at a drug cartel however, fully knows he's guarding a drug cartel. Stop comparing apples and oranges son
SMH. This is a genuine question. Do you have any idea where the meeting was being held?


There's the knowing involvement and unknowing involvement. And what we discussing here is only knowing involvement

When I'm comparing the similaritiesof apple and orange is their nature, sugar content, the roots, the stem, the respiratory system, the source of energy, vascular structures. Now that's what I been focusing on, however you missed it all
 

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lol There is no right or wrong here as there is no innocent or guilty here. You decided to risk your life by attacking somebody regardless of reason. You not innocent period!. Bee is innocent because Sasuke came after him and attack him!!

By your definition, I'd be considered guilty (not innocent) if I did my job as an older sibling and protected my younger sister.
 

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You do know what means right?



There was no crime for the samurai to be guilty of.

lol yes i do know what Innocent means. Them samurais attacked Sasuke first. When you attack, you tend to cause physical injury. Therefore, you're not Innocent.
 

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If you doing a job that require you to risk your life fighting somebody or killing somebody, you're not Innocent period lol. If I was a cop or solider, I will never consider myself innocent because I have a gun and will take somebody life away on the job.
@Bold please tell me you know the difference between killing and Murder?
 

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Even by him perspective he knows what he's doing is wrong. when it comes to crime philosophy means crap
adjective1.free from moral wrong; without sin; pure:innocent children.


2.free from legal or specific wrong; guiltless:innocent of the crime.


3.not involving evil intent or motive:an innocent misrepresentation.

Your answer is to use the "criminal's perspective". In sasuke perspective, they are not so innocent, and sasuke believes what he doing is right
 

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By your definition, I'd be considered guilty (not innocent) if I did my job as an older sibling and protected my younger sister.

Yeah you guilty but you don't give a damn about it as long you protect your younger sister.
 

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lol yes i do know what Innocent means. Them samurais attacked Sasuke first. When you attack, you tend to cause physical injury. Therefore, you're not Innocent.

They attacked Sasuke because Sasuke intended to kill others, is there some kind of disconnect going on here?
 
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