Why is revenge acceptable for Shikamaru and Team Asuma

[Migster257]

I've been trying to get answer as to why people support such ways, and either get a troll attempt or no response...not too happy with those results Zzz

Were you expecting anything else?

 

[Nagi]

???? WTH? Hospital give you prescribed medication, they dont sell them to any crackhead on the corner.

Correct. They have guards at the hospital. The moment that guard act...well the moment he/she became a guard, the word "innocent" is basically thrown out of the window. As i said earlier, You lost the right to be "Innocent" the moment you attack somebody or attempt to kill another person. No matter how weak you are!

Now you can be Innocent through self-defense.

 

[TrollKing]

Umm No, if they can't trust them they can't guard them that much is obvious if it work the way you're describing it cops would have shut down every drug trade already because it would be easy to infiltrate.

An organized crime is organized, not everyone doing everybody's else job. You just have to accept the fact. This is no debate

 

[TrollingSage]

I personally don't have a problem with Sasuke going after Itachi or Danzo. It was the way he went about it that was bad. In his quest for revenge, he attempted to kidnap an "innocent" bystander(Bee), killed several people that were only doing their jobs(Samurai), abandoned his team mates when they were captured and even attempted to dispose off his own team mate because he has no use for her.
Be honest, if anyone were to kill his comrade because he doesn't need him/her in real life, words like "human scum", "heartless bastard" will be thrown around. But I guess it's cool since it's your favorite character in manga

 

[V h o]

Were you expecting anything else?

Not really. Majority of my posts or either sheet or raising post count. So it doesn't matter to me.

 

[-Spoiler-]

An organized crime is organized, not everyone doing everybody's else job. You just have to accept the fact. This is no debate

Yes and if you're involved in Organized crime it means you're a criminal so how can the guards be innocent ?

 

[Nagi]

I personally don't have a problem with Sasuke going after Itachi or Danzo. It was the way he went about it that was bad. In his quest for revenge, he attempted to kidnap an "innocent" bystander(Bee), killed several people that were only doing their jobs(Samurai), abandoned his team mates when they were captured and even attempted to dispose off his own team mate because he has no use for her.
Be honest, if anyone were to kill his comrade because he doesn't need him/her in real life, words like "human scum", "heartless bastard" will be thrown around. But I guess it's cool since it's your favorite character in manga

Well said. Bee Is innocent because Sasuke came after him. Them Samurais are not because they decided that their job is worth more their life and go ahead and attack Sasuke.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

I personally don't have a problem with Sasuke going after Itachi or Danzo. It was the way he went about it that was bad. In his quest for revenge, he attempted to kidnap an "innocent" bystander(Bee), killed several people that were only doing their jobs(Samurai), abandoned his team mates when they were captured and even attempted to dispose off his own team mate because he has no use for her.
Be honest, if anyone were to kill his comrade because he doesn't need him/her in real life, words like "human scum", "heartless bastard" will be thrown around. But I guess it's cool since it's your favorite character in manga

Basically, he was already scum for attacking one innocent person (Bee) and killing multiple samurai, and then he declared his wish to murder thousands of innocent people.

 

[TrollingSage]

Correct. They have guards at the hospital. The moment that guard act...well the moment he/she became a guard, the word "innocent" is basically thrown out of the window. As i said earlier, You lost the right to be "Innocent" the moment you attack somebody or attempt to kill another person. No matter how weak you are!

Now you can be Innocent through self-defense.

So according to you, if someone invades my house to kill one of my guests,I am not innocent if I attempt to subdue him? Do you even remember why the meeting Sasuke infiltrated was being held? Yea that's right, because a certain someone donned the Akatsuki clothing and kidnapped(attempted to) the jinchuriki of the cloud village. Then that same person infiltrates the meeting to discuss his actions. Did you expect the guards to just say "well walk right in Mr. Sasuke-sama"?

 

[TrollKing]

Yes and if you're involved in Organized crime it means you're a criminal so how can the guards be innocent ?

Exactly the word "innocent" means "involvement". That's what I'm trying to make it out clearly

 

[-Spoiler-]

Correct. They have guards at the hospital. The moment that guard act...well the moment he/she became a guard, the word "innocent" is basically thrown out of the window. As i said earlier, You lost the right to be "Innocent" the moment you attack somebody or attempt to kill another person. No matter how weak you are!

Now you can be Innocent through self-defense.

I don't know what you're talking about but if a someone attacks a "Hospital" guard, they're the one that's wrong plain and simple.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Well said. Bee Is innocent because Sasuke came after him. Them Samurais are not because they decided that their job is worth more their life and go ahead and attack Sasuke.

So, I'm guessing soldiers are evil as well? The samurai did their jobs, which was to protect other lives, how is that evil?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

I don't know what you're talking about but if a someone attacks a "Hospital" guard, they're the one that's wrong plain and simple.

So, I'm evil if I kill someone trying to hurt my little sister?

 

[-Spoiler-]

Exactly the word "innocent" means "involvement". That's what I'm trying to make it out clearly

I just told you they're criminals so how can you be a criminal but innocent at the same time?????

 

[Nagi]

So according to you, if someone invades my house to kill one of my guests,I am not innocent if I attempt to subdue him? Do you even remember why the meeting Sasuke infiltrated was being held? Yea that's right, because a certain someone donned the Akatsuki clothing and kidnapped(attempted to) the jinchuriki of the cloud village. Then that same person infiltrates the meeting to discuss his actions. Did you expect the guards to just say "well walk right in Mr. Sasuke-sama"?

Key word "Your house". You're more Innocent than white on white rice. you can rape, kill, cut up, do whatever the **** you want to that person and still be innocent. Because he came into your house. Them Samurais are not the target and decided to be in the way by choice. That is why they're not Innocent.

 

[-Spoiler-]

So, I'm evil if I kill someone trying to hurt my little sister?

? I said the attacker is wrong not the guard he's just doing his duty

 

[TrollingSage]

Exactly the word "innocent" means "involvement". That's what I'm trying to make it out clearly

The difference between a hospital guard or a guard at any other legal instititution is that those guards usually don't know anything about what goes on behind the scenes. You don't see security guards being arrested when a legit company is found to be involved in not so legal activities. A guard at a drug cartel however, fully knows he's guarding a drug cartel. Stop comparing apples and oranges son

Key word "Your house". You're more Innocent than white on white rice. you can rape, kill, cut up, do whatever the **** you want to that person and still be innocent. Because he came into your house. Them Samurais are not the target and decided to be in the way by choice. That is why they're not Innocent.

SMH. This is a genuine question. Do you have any idea where the meeting was being held?

 

[TrollKing]

I just told you they're criminals so how can you be a criminal but innocent at the same time?????

If you try to tell a criminal that someone is innocent, you would use his perspective of innocent or your own perspective of innocent?

 

[V h o]

Well said. Bee Is innocent because Sasuke came after him. Them Samurais are not because they decided that their job is worth more their life and go ahead and attack Sasuke.

So it doesn't matter that a criminal came to a diplomatic meeting, aiming to kill on of the members of the diplomatic meeting? The samurai are still guilty because they upheld the peace of the meeting?

 

[Nagi]

So, I'm guessing soldiers are evil as well? The samurai did their jobs, which was to protect other lives, how is that evil?

Never said evil at all. Them soldiers are not Innocent though. That's a fact. If you attack me and i have no reason to attack you in the first place, Im innocent. If you attack my kids and I attack you after, Im not Innocent. But I won't give a damn about being innocent. Your life is mine for attacking my kids.