Why is revenge acceptable for Shikamaru and Team Asuma

[ShiroT]

It doesn't matter. He still wanted revenge and what exactly is wrong about wanting revenge on the person who killed your loved ones?

Naruto is a walking hypocrite.

it breeds hate

 

[ShiroT]

Danzò = Innocent.


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the kages and naruto plus anyone who is in his way (his words)

 

[Migster257]

He wanted revenge for Jiraiya's death against Pain.

I find it funny how Naruto's revenge for his master is acceptable but when Sasuke claims revenge for Itachi pertaining to his clan then it's a bad thing.

Naruto's revenge for his master is not acceptable. This thread quite clearly states that.
Sasuke's revenge for Itachi is not fine because he wanted to achieve it by destroying the entire Leaf. Lel, yeah, sounds reasonable.

Tell me in the name of god, how it is unreasonable

Wanting to kill all the kages.
Two of which are innocent (enough) not to get killed.
Sounds unreasonable to me.

 

[-immortal-]

the kages and naruto plus anyone who is in his way (his words)

1. I didn't quote you
2.Didn't even Awnser my question

 

[Dannie]

it breeds hate

So letting the people who caused your life full of void to roam free won't cause more hate? Isn't that the exact reason why Sasuke left the village. Staying in a little nurtured village won't make the problems go away.

 

[spade3dg]

It doesn't matter. He still wanted revenge and what exactly is wrong about wanting revenge on the person who killed your loved ones?

Naruto is a walking hypocrite.

On the contrary. It does matter. Yes he wanted revenge, but he didnt act on it. He also wanted revenge because pain destroyed his village but he didnt act on it.

He did what a reasonable person would do, not go major emo and kill innocent people just to get revenge on one person.


What he did was end that cycle of revenge and hate. If he wouldve killed Nagato, Konan wouldve tried to kill him, If she killed him, the leaf would want her dead. He played it smart.

Sasuke on the other hand, didnt care who he affected. Kidnapping bee, Made an enemy of Ay. Attacked all kage, every village hates him. They kill him, Naruto, Sakura, Ino , Karin hate them. Cycle wont end

 

[-immortal-]

Naruto's revenge for his master is not acceptable. This thread quite clearly states that.
Sasuke's revenge for Itachi is not fine because he wanted to achieve it by destroying the entire Leaf. Lel, yeah, sounds reasonable.



Wanting to kill all the kages.
Two of which are innocent (enough) not to get killed.
Sounds unreasonable to me.

Please don't tell me you think Gaara and Mei are Innocent Lol

 

[Dannie]

Naruto's revenge for his master is not acceptable. This thread quite clearly states that.
Sasuke's revenge for Itachi is not fine because he wanted to achieve it by destroying the entire Leaf. Lel, yeah, sounds reasonable.

Did he actually destroy the leaf or kill innocents?

The only people he killed were Danzo and Itachi and then after he found out the truth about his brother he decided to make his own decisions and make a change.

 

[demon of the leaf]

It doesn't matter. He still wanted revenge and what exactly is wrong about wanting revenge on the person who killed your loved ones?

Naruto is a walking hypocrite.

he wanted to avenge jiraya but did he kill nagato cause i dont remember naruto stabbing or obliterating him sasuke was going to kill everyone in the leaf and made more enemys by trying to capture killer B who is the brother of the ryekage and made things worst by attacking the kage summit

 

[spade3dg]

So letting the people who caused your life full of void to roam free won't cause more hate? Isn't that the exact reason why Sasuke left the village. Staying in a little nurtured village won't make the problems go away.

Sasuke left the village due to jealousy of Narutos growth and because he felt like he was beginning to not care about revenge.

He was becoming comfortable in Konoha and wpuldve eventually let those feelings go due to having friends and people to care for.

Example. He almost died saving Naruto from Haku. His friends life was in danger. That overshadowed his thirst for vengeance.
He couldve calmed down and settled but them itachi and Kisame invaded the village.

 

[Migster257]

Please don't tell me you think Gaara and Mei are Innocent Lol

Was thinking about Tsunade and Gaara. Kindly tell me why they aren't innocent? Gaara was going down the path of hatred, but decided to change. I don't see why he has to be killed, at all.

Did he actually destroy the leaf or kill innocents?

The only people he killed were Danzo and Itachi and then after he found out the truth about his brother he decided to make his own decisions and make a change.

Doesn't matter if he didn't go through with it. He was thinking about it. That type of revenge is unacceptable.
Killing Danzo and Itachi was fine.

 

[spade3dg]

Did he actually destroy the leaf or kill innocents?

The only people he killed were Danzo and Itachi and then after he found out the truth about his brother he decided to make his own decisions and make a change.

He killed numerous samurai at the kage summit before he fought Ay. They were innocent.

 

[Punk Hazard]

If they are screaming and crying, that means they are alive. Sakura is crying too but still breathing and in good health physically. And that was when he got covered with darkness the most. So saying sasuke going to kill or killed all innocent people is way too inaccurate.

No. Sasuke said he wanted to wipe out the entire village. It's not that hard to understand.

 

[Dannie]

On the contrary. It does matter. Yes he wanted revenge, but he didnt act on it. He also wanted revenge because pain destroyed his village but he didnt act on it.

He did what a reasonable person would do, not go major emo and kill innocent people just to get revenge on one person.


What he did was end that cycle of revenge and hate. If he wouldve killed Nagato, Konan wouldve tried to kill him, If she killed him, the leaf would want her dead. He played it smart.

Sasuke on the other hand, didnt care who he affected. Kidnapping bee, Made an enemy of Ay. Attacked all kage, every village hates him. They kill him, Naruto, Sakura, Ino , Karin hate them. Cycle wont end

Innocent people like who? Danzo? Yeah, he's so innocent. You keep throwing in what if scenarios that didn't happen. The only person that Sasuke killed was Danzo. That's it. They are ninjas' so I assume you are going to be childish and bring up the samurai façade, but what if he didn't act and the Samurai actually killed him instead? Would you consider the samurai to be at fault or would you consider that act to be a good thing now that Sasuke Uchiha is dead?

 

[Punk Hazard]

He killed numerous samurai at the kage summit before he fought Ay. They were innocent.

They attacked him first. He just asked where Danzo was and told them not to attack him. Same with the Kages. Sasuke didn't go there with intentions of fighting or killing anyone but Danzo.

 

[-immortal-]

Was thinking about Tsunade and Gaara. Kindly tell me why they aren't innocent? Gaara was going down the path of hatred, but decided to change. I don't see why he has to be killed, at all.



Doesn't matter if he didn't go through with it. He was thinking about it. That type of revenge is unacceptable.
Killing Danzo and Itachi was fine.

They easily greated the situations that cause all this

 

[Migster257]

They easily greated the situations that cause all this

Gaara and Tsunade created the situations that caused this?
Infinite Tsukuyomi
Madara's revival
Ashura and Indra hatred
First three wars
Etc.

Damn. They must've created all that.

 

[TrollKing]

But did Naruto kill Nagato? No. He overcame the want for revenge. Nagato committed suicide bringing back the people he killed. He never killed out of revenge. Sasuke on the other hand....

The manga glorify naruto's vengeful act as heroic. There's not once anyone condemning naruto's action.

Mangafax:

1. If naruto kill nagato, he's the hero

2. If he tnj nagato, he's savior

 

[spade3dg]

Innocent people like who? Danzo? Yeah, he's so innocent. You keep throwing in what if scenarios that didn't happen. The only person that Sasuke killed was Danzo. That's it. They are ninjas' so I assume you are going to be childish and bring up the samurai façade, but what if he didn't act and the Samurai actually killed him instead? Would you consider the samurai to be at fault or would you consider that act to be a good thing now that Sasuke Uchiha is dead?

I never mentioned "innocent people" in that post. And yes because the whole manga is a what if scenario.

I was demonstrating to you how the cycle of hate and revenge would continue. If you want to get technical, he still invaded the kage summit, which he had no business being there. KAGE. Not everybody that has beef show up. He invaded a professional meeting of the nation's leader with the intention to kill one, which is a crime. You cant cover that up in any way.

He invaded a place which was against the law, knowing before hand the raikage would be there, who just so happened to be the brother of the jon he attacked and tried to capture (crime) for the CRIMINAL organization the akatsuki. His revenge led him to be a criminal, thats why it's different from others

 

[SSU]

Because hunting the Akatsuki was a priority for the leaf and when Asuma died, it just made things move quicker. A fight between two former friends is different then a fight between the leaf and rogue ninja.