Why is people saying Nagato > Naruto

[Scryed]

very true

Overall, yes. Naruto is overall stronger than Nagato but this is more about match ups. I still think SM Naruto stands a better chance against Nagato. This new Naruto has advantages that SM Naruto didn't have. If Nagato uses Deva Path, I think that BM Naruto would overcome it with sheer power of the fox. The bad thing though, is that the weakness that BM has that SM doesn't, is that it seems to be purely chakra based. BM is currently vulnerable to Preta Path.

If BM Naruto tries to blitz him, it will probably have the same outcome Bee had in V2. BM Naruto would have to stay and attack at a distance. So far, his longranged chakra based attacks would still be absorbed by Preta Path and yes, I do believe that his TBB would be absorbed as well since it's pure chakra.

Not many people have chakra absorbing techniques so TBB is still regarded as an extremely dangerous technique to use against other shinobi (though i'm not sure if it would overcome Itachi's Yata mirror. I don't take statements literal anymore. Pain's shinra tensei is supposed to repel everything and yet, 6 tails Naruto was able to overcome it. So for all I know, Itachi's Yata Mirror might not be as invincible as I thought.)

Naruto previously stated that Nagato's techniques were on a different level than when he uses them by the 6 paths so I can't really draw any real conclusions but I currently believe that KM wouldn't be able to do much against Nagato's Deva Path but BM would be able to overcome it. The 8 tails managed to break out of CT when it was used on him so since now Naruto has full cooperation with the 9 tails. Together, they should be able to overcome it.

Against SM, Deva Path seemed to be the main problem. Against BM, Preta Path poses to be the main problem but if Naruto could create SM clones while he's in BM, or if he could mix the two modes, then he should be able to defeat Nagato since those two modes together would overcome Naruto's mode's previous weaknesses when they're used alone.

 

[BloodSeed]

can nagato absorb this??

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[Lostdreams]

naruto cannot even handle cripple edo tenesi nagato .Do you think he stronger?

The one that could not die and was already amazingly strong?
You say that as if its a bad thing?


Technically no one should be able to beat edo madara and nagato because now they dont run out of chakra and for the most part cant get hurt at all.

You forget itatchi sealed him because thats all you can do to a already powerhouse ninja who now is dead.(THAT WAS NOT THE REAL NAGATO)

 

[Bijuu13]

In fact, Naruto defeated Nagato.

Explain please.

i think naruto could potentially win, but no he did not beat nagato/pain . there were so many oppurtunities to kill naruto in that fight but none were taken for the simple fact that akatsuki needs the host alive .

 

[Lord Snow]

Nagato is still stronger than naruto.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

wow i feel my iq dropping reading some of these comments it should be very clear who would win

Naruto pinned down by a tired wheelchair Nagato with his 6 paths after destroying konoha

9 tails caught in a chibaku tensei and solod by Nagato

Nagato owned naruto as a crippled edo summon being controlled by a noob who made him lose

Nagato would beat him and kurama celestial tera sphere its over or he can just fly around spamming lakes on top of the nine tails like last tim

 

[Scryed]

can nagato absorb this??

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It's pure chakra so my bet would be yes. Preta Path absorbs any chakra based techniques or chakra itself so that TBB would be increasing his chakra furthermore. Against any other person, that TBB would massacre them but if that's used against anyone who uses the Rinnegan, Preta Path would add that chakra to the users supply.

 

[ReLax -]

Current Naruto would own Nagato, or even play with him.

 

[Necron]

I thought Naruto did bead Nagato... aka Pain ? I just don't understand what are they trying to say he defeated him ?

Please can someone explain please, I really don't get it ?

Naruto > Nagato

Because he is.
Naruto didn't beat him, he beated the 6 paths. But his original body was much stronger than the paths (as comented that he would be able to control Naruto's body). Nagato let Naruto talk, and was convinced, then used the outer path that consumed the rest of his chackra... Also, if Nagato wanted Naruto dead, he would be dead in instants. Nagato wanted to capture Naruto, to seal Kurama. Only Naruto at the level he is today, would pose actual threat to Nagato's life, and still Nagato would have a slight-to-mid advantage...

 

[Scryed]

I wonder what would happen if Nagato would go for the kill while Naruto would try to capture Nagato alive.

 

[narutownsyouall]

Naruto beat pain even if he unwillingly used the nine tails power (which is now a part of him). He won and if Nagato wanted to he could have done what Kabuto was going to to do to Naruto in the war. dont say he was just trying to capture (if he was then why did he barley scratch naruto in the fight? he attempted a lot of attacks that didnt land) and Naruto owned a lot of the pains until the strongest one was left. And he still beat him.

 

[kevenc]

Naruto beat pain even if he unwillingly used the nine tails power (which is now a part of him). He won and if Nagato wanted to he could have done what Kabuto was going to to do to Naruto in the war. dont say he was just trying to capture (if he was then why did he barley scratch naruto in the fight? he attempted a lot of attacks that didnt land) and Naruto owned a lot of the pains until the strongest one was left. And he still beat him.

This is what I believes too. How could he tried to not kill Naruto with the Chibaku Tensei. Oh well Naruto wins when Nagato's Deva Path retrieved his power Nagato was all-in.

 

[Nova89]

it is as simple as Naruto has already beaten nagato.

 

[lanakau888]

the only think nagato supporters use is "nagato has preta path, and naruto uses only chakra shields/attacks, and they would all be absorbed" which is completely flawed because:

- Nagato has to touch naruto (you know the fastest guy alive) in order to behind to absorb his near infinite chakra
- Naruto (while in BM) can make tons of SM clones.
-Preta path was one-shotted by one invisible punch.
- nagato will have to deal with tons of SM clones, KM clones, and BM naruto who can send shockwaves that can send bijuu flying.

there really is nothing nagato can do.

Once nagato uses shinra tensei, the Sage clones are sent (thrown or carried by BM/KM naruto's super speed) to frog kata him
- animal path's summons are fodderized by BM shockwave
- asura's missiles and lasers are destroyed by BM shockwave, or KM clones charka arms and rasengan spam
- human path isn't helping nagato since BM naruto will be far away from him and is way to fast for him to lay his hands on
- naraka path is same as human path

Chibaku tensei is destroyed by 13 KM clones each throwing a RS at the center, or BM naruto simply blowing it up with a bijuudama.

Chou shinra tensei is dodged, tanked, or (most likely) reflected. Tsunade tanked chou shinra tensei, naruto was shown regeneration and tanking abilities far beyond tsunade's while using kyuubi chakra.

 

[Zato]

If Nagato catches him with Human Path he could win easily. He easily caught Naruto in it during that last fight. If Nagato has enough chakara he can probably summon Gedo Mazo to help.

 

[Scryed]

the only think nagato supporters use is "nagato has preta path, and naruto uses only chakra shields/attacks, and they would all be absorbed" which is completely flawed because:

- Nagato has to touch naruto (you know the fastest guy alive) in order to behind to absorb his near infinite chakra
- Naruto (while in BM) can make tons of SM clones.
-Preta path was one-shotted by one invisible punch.
- nagato will have to deal with tons of SM clones, KM clones, and BM naruto who can send shockwaves that can send bijuu flying.

there really is nothing nagato can do.

Once nagato uses shinra tensei, the Sage clones are sent (thrown or carried by BM/KM naruto's super speed) to frog kata him
- animal path's summons are fodderized by BM shockwave
- asura's missiles and lasers are destroyed by BM shockwave, or KM clones charka arms and rasengan spam
- human path isn't helping nagato since BM naruto will be far away from him and is way to fast for him to lay his hands on
- naraka path is same as human path

Chibaku tensei is destroyed by 13 KM clones each throwing a RS at the center, or BM naruto simply blowing it up with a bijuudama.

Chou shinra tensei is dodged, tanked, or (most likely) reflected. Tsunade tanked chou shinra tensei, naruto was shown regeneration and tanking abilities far beyond tsunade's while using kyuubi chakra.

You made very good points. They all do make sense and the fact that Naruto has SM and could make SM clones is the reason why I think Naruto would win. If Naruto would use BM alone, I don't see him getting past Preta Path alone. Nagato cannot absorb at a distance but anything Naruto throws at him including Bijuudama would be absorbed since every longranged technique he has used in that mode seems to be purely chakra based. Nagato can't catch up or keep up with Naruto's speed but Naruto would have to remain at a distance and think of other ways to beat him without making contact with him. If he even tryes to blitz him, it would be the same as with Bee in V2.

This is why I think that even though BM is stronger than SM. SM would be very necessary for Naruto in this battle since it's going to force Nagato to pretty much try to avoid using Preta Path incase he accidently absorbs one of the SM clones while he's trying to absorb another attack. If Naruto didn't have any access to SM, then it wouldn't really be a problem for Nagato.

 

[StrifeMaccy]

In fact, Naruto defeated Nagato.

Explain please.

Well if we look at some of the facts about the fight, it takes some merit away from Naruto...
1. Nagato just destroyed a village using a massive technique.
2. Nagato was trying to capture, not kill Naruto.
3. Naruto had lost until a certain 9 Tailed Fox got up to 8 tails and tried to pummel Nagato into little pieces.
4. He was using the 6 paths, due to the nature of them, the techniques are weaker, and reaction time slows down as well.

 

[arv993]

u kno the whole preta path can be solved by just in BM if naruto just uses a kunai.

I was wondering but naruto can tank shinra tensei, beat CT and pretty much dodge or beat every other tech in BM mode but he needs SM to attack due to preta path. BUt any ninja can die from a kunai so can't naruto with a kunai technically pull of a win since a stab to the head is the end for any ninja nagato not excluded.

He still has sm clones or km clones but regardless this is another way he can win.

 

[Tosen]

u kno the whole preta path can be solved by just in BM if naruto just uses a kunai.

I was wondering but naruto can tank shinra tensei, beat CT and pretty much dodge or beat every other tech in BM mode but he needs SM to attack due to preta path. BUt any ninja can die from a kunai so can't naruto with a kunai technically pull of a win since a stab to the head is the end for any ninja nagato not excluded.

He still has sm clones or km clones but regardless this is another way he can win.

Nagato can use 2 paths at the same time so the kunai gets blown of by a shinra tensei

 

[arv993]

Nagato can use 2 paths at the same time so the kunai gets blown of by a shinra tensei

yes he can use two paths at the same time but naruto has 10 km clones at the same time all faster than nagato so shinra tensei and his other attacks would be used. I am talking about the time interval where naruto with his speed can win in that fashion