Why Is Naruto's Ideology Wrong?

[Romy9]

It's true. Jesus had a more difficult barrier to break to get through to people (no real religion in the NV) and he couldn't be violent. But that's not the point. We know what the objective is, so why not try to work toward it ourselves? It doesn't matter if we never get there.

This is a nice post. Too bad not many people have the knack to grasp what you meant. It's more appealing when someone explains in detail their goal no matter how non-existent the morals are, as it seems.

 

[MinaButt]

Naruto isn't completely wrong but his ideology is kinda short sighted. Then again he is 17......

 

[Tennis Robot]

Why are we able to love ourselves? Or forgive ourselves for our mistakes? It’s because we have a reason for everything that we do, and we know what that reason is and why it exists in our mind. If we are able to discover and understand other people’s reasonings, we will be able to coexist peacefully.

 

[Romy9]

Why are we able to love ourselves? Or forgive ourselves for our mistakes? It’s because we have a reason for everything that we do, and we know what that reason is and why it exists in our mind. If we are able to discover and understand other people’s reasonings, we will be able to coexist peacefully.

A bit too deep. Instead of trying to figure the details of Naruto's way, it's easier to argument the reason why Sasuke's way is batshit-insane.

 

[Tennis Robot]

A bit too deep. Instead of trying to figure the details of Naruto's way, it's easier to argument the reason why Sasuke's way is batshit-insane.

No. This is the refined version of Naruto's way. This is how it can work for us. All it requires is patience and open-mindedness.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

"Understanding each other....."
The same stunt Jesus tried...... worked out well didn't.

Now, I'm meant to believe a kid who didn't even know the real reason why there was an alliance in the first place has an answer?
Ok then.=D

That's all we can do, because every other method makes the person just as awful as what they're trying to prevent. That or would you just prefer total anarchy. Naruto knew the reason for the alliance, and believes that now that there's an alliance, a pay to peace can be found. Think of Lord of the Rings, with the Races forming an army against Sauron, with them actually becoming friends and understanding one another.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Why are we able to love ourselves? Or forgive ourselves for our mistakes? It’s because we have a reason for everything that we do, and we know what that reason is and why it exists in our mind. If we are able to discover and understand other people’s reasonings, we will be able to coexist peacefully.

Pretty much this. Then when you consider that even Madara's way would've worked out better than Sasuke's...

 

[Romy9]

No. This is the refined version of Naruto's way. This is how it can work for us.

The problem people see when they look at Naruto's way is the fact that it can't ever be perfect. The arguing, evil, wars etc. can only be decreased, not distinguished completely. I'd choose that any day over tyranny/dictatorship which forces me to practically live in slavery of some brat with emotional issues. It just doesn't work that way.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Sasuke's idea isn't horrible. It's just pessimistic. It reflects his experiences. He is only threatening is because he would be strong enough to go through with it if Naruto were to die. Naruto has broken through Sasuke's pessimism though. That's the other reason why Sasuke would have to kill him.

 

[Romy9]

Sasuke's idea isn't horrible. It's just pessimistic. It reflects his experiences. He is only threatening is because he would be strong enough to go through with it if Naruto were to die. Naruto has broken through Sasuke's pessimism though. That's the other reason why Sasuke would have to kill him.

When you choose to end one's life without any empathy, regardless of him being right or wrong, pessimism is irrelevant.

 

[Tennis Robot]

When you choose to end one's life without any empathy, regardless of him being right or wrong, pessimism is irrelevant.

That's the point. Sasuke doesn't want to kill Naruto. He thinks that he has to though. That's how charismatic Naruto is.

 

[Romy9]

That's the point. Sasuke doesn't want to kill Naruto. He thinks that he has to though. That's how charismatic Naruto is.

I was actually thinking about murdering the 5 Kage and the Bijuu. Naruto needs to be dealt with because he's the only who can stand in his way, essentially.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

That's the point. Sasuke doesn't want to kill Naruto. He thinks that he has to though. That's how charismatic Naruto is.

Actually, his plan is pretty awful, since it's either becoming a dictator or becoming a terrorist (whichever one he thinks will make the world hate him forever).

 

[Spongebond]

Anyone have a link to the Kobak theory why Naruto's path is right. Give it to the OTP.

 

[iKaras]

Naruto ideals aren't wrong. Just wont work. Madara himself explained that himself.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Not wrong at all, but he doesnt bother about the possible downside to his plans are, even Sasuke has a, albeit a stupid one, insane backup plan to his already completely stupid plan. Naruto just needs to think it through more.

 

[Trea]

Naruto's way is better than Sasuke's but truly some of Sasuke's methods are needed too. Hiruzen was right that the darkness was needed too. Every world government has a dark side where things are undertaken that protect everyone. Hiruzen's mistake is that he let Danzo have too much free reign. Going forward the darkside would have to be more transparent where they could not take actions on their own. It seems as though Sasuke would want to handle that part of things.

Peace is only temporary it won't last forever if a government or governing body does not change with the times and meet the needs of it's people. The government and the people have to continually strive for it not just get it and then stop trying to keep it. Crime is something that will always exist too as long as there are people who are unhappy with their lot. You cannot please everyone all of the time as long as the people know that the government or governing body is listening and trying to address their problems thing will get better.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Naruto's way is better than Sasuke's but truly some of Sasuke's methods are needed too. Hiruzen was right that the darkness was needed too. Every world government has a dark side where things are undertaken that protect everyone. Hiruzen's mistake is that he let Danzo have too much free reign. Going forward the darkside would have to be more transparent where they could not take actions on their own. It seems as though Sasuke would want to handle that part of things.

Peace is only temporary it won't last forever if a government or governing body does not change with the times and meet the needs of it's people. The government and the people have to continually strive for it not just get it and then stop trying to keep it. Crime is something that will always exist too as long as there are people who are unhappy with their lot. You cannot please everyone all of the time as long as the people know that the government or governing body is listening and trying to address their problems thing will get better.

I don't agree with that. I don't think that Naruto needs to compromise at all tbh.

 

[Tsukikami Uchiha]

If you think about it, all the chakra of the humans pretty much came together. They might be able to know...Fully understand each other. You know how all the Zetsu were similar? Maybe once everyone comes out of the I.T, they can fully understand one another without saying anything. So this could be the perfect solution to war forever.

That's what Kaguya planned and till date have you seen the Zetsu fight?

 

[Dantee]

His plan is great but in a world where weed is not legalized his plan will ultimately fail.