Why is Madara exempt?

[HowDidIGetPrem]

I want to know why Madara gets slack for all the external sources he used to increase his power. This guy literally has someone else's face on his chest, took so much from others that he literally became someone else(Kaguya), and even could only survive in his dying days because of leeching off the Gedo Mazo. We have people literally worshiping this guy while Naruto and Sasuke are ripped to shreds. Why?

 

[Shogo Makishima]

Some people use strong characters as a way to hide their insecurities especially on a fanwar driven site like this one. Madara being especially strong I imagine has produced a fanbase driven on power fantasies but I also mean no disrespect to his true fans but I'm sure he has fans that don't even respect his development and agenda and only attach themselves so they can say my fav > your fav.

 

[Melanin]

Because Madara was already powerful (1 of 2 strongest shinobi in history) before he got geeked up on senju sauce, plus there aren’t many character who can take Madara or do things he could without all those add ons your describing.

 

[Uverdore9]

That's the typical fanboy mindset. "Who creates the biggest craters he must be the strongest" and that's so stupid to me to be honest. The strongest should be people with the most absolutes like itachi. All-repelling shield, all-slashing/piercing sword, Tsukuyomi strongest illusion which is unbreakable among all his other literally overpowered illusions which can control the whole world. Madara is simply fanboyed because of the above despicable shounen mindset so primitive in thought they can't think anything more original than "destruction".

 

[Last Airbender]

I have always found it hypocritical that fanboys (you know who I am talking about) started the whole external powers shit, when you have a clan whose only relevant in power-scale because of genetic lottery aka magic eyes.

Uchihas are the manga version of trust fund kids who coast through life because they were born rich.

 

[Nick01]

I have always found it hypocritical that fanboys (you know who I am talking about) started the whole external powers shit, when you have a clan whose only relevant in power-scale because of genetic lottery.

Uchihas are the manga version of trust fund kids who coast through life because they were born rich.

lol right?

They’re so quick to point at others, but when it concerns their fav or someone within their favs group, they stay quiet.

 

[super michael]

I have always found it hypocritical that fanboys (you know who I am talking about) started the whole external powers shit, when you have a clan whose only relevant in power-scale because of genetic lottery aka magic eyes.

Uchihas are the manga version of trust fund kids who coast through life because they were born rich.

With that logic wouldn’t Hyuga, Kimimaro clan, Onoki Jinton, etc be considered hitting the lottery?

What about Shikamaru and his high IQ who didn’t work but just being lazy, didn’t he hit the lottery?

Uchiha and Hyuga being born capable of unlocking their dojutsu is as natural as Shikamaru and the Nara clan high IQ.

Uzumaki and Senju Clans has high chakra, sealing jutsu and life force that is their thing. Becoming a Jinchuuriki isn’t a natural thing that is external, unlike Uchiha and Hyuga dojutsu and the Nara clan high IQ.

Using other people dojutsu is external so EMS is not natural.

 

[Uverdore9]

I have always found it hypocritical that fanboys (you know who I am talking about) started the whole external powers shit, when you have a clan whose only relevant in power-scale because of genetic lottery aka magic eyes.

Uchihas are the manga version of trust fund kids who coast through life because they were born rich.

At least they don't have a living beast stored in thier bellies for power extraction. That's a relief.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

At least they don't have a living beast stored in thier bellies for power extraction. That's a relief.

It would be a real worry if you could easily transition from an entire clan to a single person.

 

[Uverdore9]

With that logic wouldn’t Hyuga, Kimimaro clan, Onoki Jinton, etc be considered hitting the lottery?

What about Shikamaru and his high IQ who didn’t work but just being lazy, didn’t he hit the lottery?

Uchiha and Hyuga being born capable of unlocking their dojutsu is as natural as Shikamaru and the Nara clan high IQ.

Uzumaki and Senju Clans has high chakra, sealing jutsu and life force that is their thing. Becoming a Jinchuuriki isn’t a natural thing that is external, unlike Uchiha and Hyuga dojutsu and the Nara clan high IQ.

Using other people dojutsu is external so EMS is not natural.

No matter how much you talk sense don't expect logic you'll be disappointed. Ask how good naruto/hyuga would've been without byakugan and kyuubi respectively. I find it funny they ignore the lower clans lottery gifts like senjus high stamina which is a gift of hagoromo and uzumakis high lifeforces capable of surviving tailed beast extractions. Really funny how they ignore such things even though without them the senju would be literally toast because of the firestyle mastery and CQC talent of uchihas.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

I have always found it hypocritical that fanboys (you know who I am talking about) started the whole external powers shit, when you have a clan whose only relevant in power-scale because of genetic lottery aka magic eyes.

Uchihas are the manga version of trust fund kids who coast through life because they were born rich.

You mean like the current generation

 

[Last Airbender]

With that logic wouldn’t Hyuga, Kimimaro clan, Onoki Jinton, etc be considered hitting the lottery?

What about Shikamaru and his high IQ who didn’t work but just being lazy, didn’t he hit the lottery?

Uchiha and Hyuga being born capable of unlocking their dojutsu is as natural as Shikamaru and the Nara clan high IQ.

Uzumaki and Senju Clans has high chakra, sealing jutsu and life force that is their thing. Becoming a Jinchuuriki isn’t a natural thing that is external, unlike Uchiha and Hyuga dojutsu and the Nara clan high IQ.

Using other people dojutsu is external so EMS is not natural.

Uchihas are the only group of people who have to put zero effort towards their techniques.

There is no training involved in a jutsu like Amaterasu. The eye does everything, they just activate it.

Contrast that with something like Rasenshuriken. Though Naruto has the benefit of high chakra reserves from being jinchuriki and uzumaki, he still has to do a soul crushing training for Rasenshuriken from the bottom up.
He has to work from level 0 all the way upto the completion of the technique.

The same goes for every other kekkei genkai user, they are born with the raw potential but still have to see their techniques all the way from the bottom up-to to the completion.

Uchiha cry and get techniques like Amaterasu, Kamui, Susanoo. Ultimate defense? Ultimate Space time jutsu? Just like that?
Uchiha have reality warping techniques like Izanagi. Name any other non-God character that can warp reality.
Uchiha escape any downsides of their techniques by snatching another set of eyes.

They will never get close to any of this with training. There is no training with these.

I am not even mentioning other crazy shit basic sharingan does.

Insta-cheat codes to copy taijutsu? Meanwhile guys like Rock-Lee risk everything for their worth as ninja and some uchiha comes along and does all of that in one month.
Insta-cheat code to copy and decipher ninjutsu. What did they do to deserve this power?
Insta-cheat code to genjutsu anyone? lolololol

Sharingan is the biggest haxx in the manga and it's not even close.

People like to put up lame excuses. oh it's just an eye. LMAO more like a nuke in the form of eye.

 

[Uverdore9]

Uchihas are the only group of people who have to put zero effort towards their techniques.

There is no training involved in a jutsu like Amaterasu. The eye does everything, they just activate it.

Contrast that with something like Rasenshuriken. Though Naruto has the benefit of high chakra reserves from being jinchuriki and uzumaki.
However he still has to do a soul crushing training for Rasenshuriken from the bottom up.
He has to work from level 0 all the way upto the completion of the technique.

The same goes for every other kekkei genkai user, they are born with the raw potential but still have to see their techniques all the way from the bottom up-to to the completion.

Uchiha cry and get techniques like Amaterasu, Kamui, Susanoo. Ultimate defense? Ultimate Space time jutsu? Just like that?
Uchiha have reality warping techniques like Izanagi. Name any other non-God character that can warp reality.
Uchiha escape any downsides of their techniques by snatching another set of eyes.

They will never get close to any of this with training. There is no training with these.

I am not even mentioning other crazy shit basic sharingan does.

Insta-cheat codes to copy taijutsu? Meanwhile guys like Rock-Lee risk everything for their worth as ninja and some uchiha comes along and does all of that in one month.
Insta-cheat code to copy and decipher ninjutsu. What did they do to deserve this power?
Insta-cheat code to genjutsu anyone? lolololol

Sharingan is the biggest haxx in the manga and it's not even close.

People like to put up lame excuses. oh it's just an eye. LMAO more like a nuke in the form of eye.

Izanagi and izanami were invented. Izanagi invented first, izanami to counter izanagi.

 

[SeveN797]

Because that's what his plan - IT required. He needed hashi's dna, rinnegan, juubi etc. all these powers were required in order for his plan to succeed.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Because that's what his plan - IT required. He needed hashi's dna, rinnegan, juubi etc. all these powers were required in order for his plan to succeed.

Naruto's plan was to get strong - handouts required.

 

[super michael]

Uchihas are the only group of people who have to put zero effort towards their techniques.

There is no training involved in a jutsu like Amaterasu. The eye does everything, they just activate it.

Contrast that with something like Rasenshuriken. Though Naruto has the benefit of high chakra reserves from being jinchuriki and uzumaki, he still has to do a soul crushing training for Rasenshuriken from the bottom up.
He has to work from level 0 all the way upto the completion of the technique.

The same goes for every other kekkei genkai user, they are born with the raw potential but still have to see their techniques all the way from the bottom up-to to the completion.

Uchiha cry and get techniques like Amaterasu, Kamui, Susanoo. Ultimate defense? Ultimate Space time jutsu? Just like that?
Uchiha have reality warping techniques like Izanagi. Name any other non-God character that can warp reality.
Uchiha escape any downsides of their techniques by snatching another set of eyes.

They will never get close to any of this with training. There is no training with these.

I am not even mentioning other crazy shit basic sharingan does.

Insta-cheat codes to copy taijutsu? Meanwhile guys like Rock-Lee risk everything for their worth as ninja and some uchiha comes along and does all of that in one month.
Insta-cheat code to copy and decipher ninjutsu. What did they do to deserve this power?
Insta-cheat code to genjutsu anyone? lolololol

Sharingan is the biggest haxx in the manga and it's not even close.

People like to put up lame excuses. oh it's just an eye. LMAO more like a nuke in the form of eye.

Uchiha MS might be OP but with a great big draw back which is permanent blindness, unless they have a brother or sister. No clan has a big drawback like that.

No KKG or KKM has a drawback as big as permanent blindness or losing body part functionality.

 

[lndra]

Madara fan's are hilarious when it comes to this point. And they bash other characters who get hand outs too.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Uchiha MS might be OP but with a great big draw back which is permanent blindness, unless they have a brother or sister. No clan has a big drawback like that.

No KKG or KKM has a drawback as big as permanent blindness or losing body part functionality.

Agreed bro, last airbender is simply :salt:y

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Smh. I provide all this fuel to bash discuss Madara and here ya'll go redirecting it to his clan.

 

[Uverdore9]

Agreed bro, last airbender is simply :salt:y

Look at hyuga. They can spam byakugan like anything and worse everyone in the clan has it. Nice plothype that is. Whereas only a select few in uchiha can even awaken sharingan let alone MS and EMS as said in part 1. While all the hyuga members can master basic taijutsu techniques bar rotation and above.