Why is it really that Sakura is such a disliked character?

[Chatte]

Could you please quote me and explain where I doubted Sais words. On the Sasuke issue, I meant explain in the context of my argument, what you have done is explain the situation but what I argued was that this suggests Sakura had her own reasons here other than Naruto, you need to argue against this contention not explain the chapter.

You said about Sakura wanting to kill Sasuke herself that it wasn't for Naruto. You doubted that at first, because it was said about Sai, yet afterwards you took Sai's words as right with her when it came for killing Sasuke. So if he's right about wanting to kill Sasuke, he's right about doing it for Naruto only.

Explaining the chapter was arguing against the contention.

 

[Arian]

What does that have to do with our debate here? We were debating Sakuras selfishness not her feelings for Naruto and since it seems you are a pairing fangirl, let me make it clear that I personally do not care about pairings (if anything I am anti Naru/saku/hina and Sasu/saku/karin, if any one of these happened it would be truly sht writing on Kishis part imo better not write it at all).

well then sorry dude but it seemed like you guys were questioning her feelings..as if i would read a debate of 19+ sites? xD and no it wouldnt be bad writing it seems like you have forgotten the whole moral and idea behind the manga itself...i accept your opinion though..and you can call me a fangirl or fanboy(since im no femal if you thought so) i dont care, but pairings IS also kinda a theme in naruto...reread the manga and watch the story as its whole instead of just enjoying the fights and stuff and you will see what i mean..

 

[Worm]

Stop arguing about animations. FFS :sy:

This.

 

[HadouKage]

you just don't get it. The confession was a way of getting Naruto to stop pursuing Sasuke, her feelings for Sasuke don't come into it.

the fact that she wanted to kill Sasuke does.

I actually agree with this, if remembered right it was stated by Sakura that she wanted Naruto to stop shouldering the burden of Sasuke on his shoulders because she felt guilty

 

[Lilvic92]

Lol, so you're actually denying manga pages? Well, good for you, I guess.

No offense Chatte but I've seen you deny manga pages too.
You said many times that Sakura wasn't thinking about her love for Sasuke in chapter 539 or 540 (not sure which one) but instead she was getting over him. That's kind of denial don't ya think? She clearly thought about Sasuke when the man said, "if you love him, he must be great" And she was sad because Sasuke isn't great, he's a criminal. She wasn't getting over him lol

 

[Prometheus Beta]

You said about Sakura wanting to kill Sasuke herself that it wasn't for Naruto. You doubted that at first, because it was said about Sai, yet afterwards you took Sai's words as right with her when it came for killing Sasuke. So if he's right about wanting to kill Sasuke, he's right about doing it for Naruto only.

Explaining the chapter was arguing against the contention.

Err no, I argued that Sasuke was a factor in the confession and that this was a selfish motive on Sakuras part. In the beginning, I said nothing about relieving Naruto of his burden, that I said nothing does not mean/imply I denied it (I did later affirm it). To clarify once again because I did state this before, I believe that both Naruto and Sasuke were factors in the confession and that the later was a selfish motive on Sakuras part.

 

[Chatte]

No offense Chatte but I've seen you deny manga pages too.
You said many times that Sakura wasn't thinking about her love for Sasuke in chapter 539 or 540 (not sure which one) but instead she was getting over him. That's kind of denial don't ya think? She clearly thought about Sasuke when the man said, "if you love him, he must be great" And she was sad because Sasuke isn't great, he's a criminal. She wasn't getting over him lol

I could argue about 539 and 540 once again. I said that while it's clear that everyone sees it as loving, can also be interpreted as getting over him, meaning realizing the fact that Sasuke she thought she loves is not the Sasuke he is.
Those 2 chapters are very tricky. I could give you my opinion on it, however, you won't care about it.
And you cannot say she wasn't a process to start getting over him, as this manga is not over yet and the prime step usually into a relationship is first, starting to think about the person you supposedly love if it does good to you or bad.
I know you're a SS shipper, I am one myself, so I understand from where you're coming too, however, it's not tunneled vision and since Kishi didn't gave us exact things, it can be interpreted in many ways.

Err no, I argued that Sasuke was a factor in the confession and that this was a selfish motive on Sakuras part. In the beginning, I said nothing about relieving Naruto of his burden, that I said nothing does not mean/imply I denied it (I did later affirm it). To clarify once again because I did state this before, I believe that both Naruto and Sasuke were factors in the confession and that the later was a selfish motive on Sakuras part.

Well, I guess that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, however, I could argue about the selfish part... if you think at it, it was the opposite of it. She was going to give away her happiness just for Naruto not to get hurt. And supposedly Sai's words are correct, killing the one you love isn't easy either. Giving your happiness away it's nothing but selfless, when you have the choice to do nothing about it and care about you happiness only. That is selfish.
So even if you look at it related to Naruto or Sasuke, which helds the key to her well state of being, it's anything but selfish.

 

[Lilvic92]

I could argue about 539 and 540 once again. I said that while it's clear that everyone sees it as loving, can also be interpreted as getting over him, meaning realizing the fact that Sasuke she thought she loves is not the Sasuke he is.
Those 2 chapters are very tricky. I could give you my opinion on it, however, you won't care about it.
And you cannot say she wasn't a process to start getting over him, as this manga is not over yet and the prime step usually into a relationship is first, starting to think about the person you supposedly love if it does good to you or bad.
I know you're a SS shipper, I am one myself, so I understand from where you're coming too, however, it's not tunneled vision and since Kishi didn't gave us exact things, it can be interpreted in many ways.

You can explain, I'm not bias. I'm willing to hear your point. I use to be a NaruSaku supporter so maybe you can be the reason I can convert back lol

 

[Arian]

I could argue about 539 and 540 once again. I said that while it's clear that everyone sees it as loving, can also be interpreted as getting over him, meaning realizing the fact that Sasuke she thought she loves is not the Sasuke he is.
Those 2 chapters are very tricky. I could give you my opinion on it, however, you won't care about it.
And you cannot say she wasn't a process to start getting over him, as this manga is not over yet and the prime step usually into a relationship is first, starting to think about the person you supposedly love if it does good to you or bad.
I know you're a SS shipper, I am one myself, so I understand from where you're coming too, however, it's not tunneled vision and since Kishi didn't gave us exact things, it can be interpreted in many ways.

Well, I guess that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, however, I could argue about the selfish part... if you think at it, it was the opposite of it. She was going to give away her happiness just for Naruto not to get hurt. And supposedly Sai's words are correct, killing the one you love isn't easy either. Giving your happiness away it's nothing but selfless, when you have the choice to do nothing about it and care about you happiness only. That is selfish.
So even if you look at it related to Naruto or Sasuke, which helds the key to her well state of being, it's anything but selfish.

Chatte i love you for being one of the few reasonable and not insulting nice people on this base^^ there should be more people like you

 

[Lilvic92]

It's sad because she has all these good attributes
Fantastic medical ninjutsu
Super Strength
Intelligence

But she still somehow manages to be useless, but that's more of Kishi's fault for writing her that way.
I don't hate her though

 

[Fecal Matter]

I could argue about 539 and 540 once again. I said that while it's clear that everyone sees it as loving, can also be interpreted as getting over him, meaning realizing the fact that Sasuke she thought she loves is not the Sasuke he is.
Those 2 chapters are very tricky. I could give you my opinion on it, however, you won't care about it.
And you cannot say she wasn't a process to start getting over him, as this manga is not over yet and the prime step usually into a relationship is first, starting to think about the person you supposedly love if it does good to you or bad.
I know you're a SS shipper, I am one myself, so I understand from where you're coming too, however, it's not tunneled vision and since Kishi didn't gave us exact things, it can be interpreted in many ways.

Chatte i love you for being one of the few reasonable and not insulting nice people on this base^^ there should be more people like you

NarutoKyuubii is the angel of the base

 

[Arian]

looking forward to meet her one day

 

[Chatte]

It's sad because she has all these good attributes
Fantastic medical ninjutsu
Super Strength
Intelligence

But she still somehow manages to be useless, but that's more of Kishi's fault for writing her that way.
I don't hate her though

You can't say a medic is useless. Kishi proved that with an entire chapter in regards to Medical Teams and Obito's plan behind with the medical team. And in terms of intelligence, let's forget she was the first to discover Obito's jutsu's basics.

About the other thing, I'll come back with an edit.

Chatte i love you for being one of the few reasonable and not insulting nice people on this base^^ there should be more people like you

Oh, thanks hun.
Nah, people shouldn't be like me, I have by bad sides. But I do think we should respect one another and debate properly without any insults.
It doesn't help insulting the other one in any case.

 

[Arian]

 

[Panda Chan]

Sakura is my favorite kunoichi, I don't understand really why she is so hated... but, I'm not that big fan of her personality.

 

[Prometheus Beta]

Well, I guess that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, however, I could argue about the selfish part... if you think at it, it was the opposite of it. She was going to give away her happiness just for Naruto not to get hurt. And supposedly Sai's words are correct, killing the one you love isn't easy either. Giving your happiness away it's nothing but selfless, when you have the choice to do nothing about it and care about you happiness only. That is selfish.
So even if you look at it related to Naruto or Sasuke, which helds the key to her well state of being, it's anything but selfish.

I agree that her concern for Sasuke was selfless (she wanted to save him from himself I guess) but this is irrelevant as the issue is Naruto.The problem is that her concern for Naruto was rooted in her own guilt in the first place, she was never worried about Narutos safety until Sai highlighted her involvement and if she truly cared about him, she would have respected his right to the truth. I suppose here we have a difference in moral and world view.

Edit: To preempt the Im contradicting myself argument, I mean her concern for Sasuke and not Sasuke as a motivation in the confession.

 

[Fecal Matter]

Sakura is my favorite kunoichi, I don't understand really why she is so hated... but, I'm not that big fan of her personality.

Thats pretty much the reason why some people dislike her along with the classic "she's useless" quote.

 

[~Sovereign~]

And people who go around telling people they have issues over the internet tend to have issues as well.

I guess you like being in a abusive relationship huh? the moment you say something that your girlfriend doesn't like then pow right in the kisser.But since its 'comedy' its ok right?

i guess you're one of the people who hate sakura for being the tsundere and hitting naruto as a joke, you have issues

you cant compare anime with real life, like i said before

i dont have not 1 problem with my wife, your wife or girlfriend might be beating you up since you hate to see the violence comedy

You compare an anime with real life, are you kidding?

+ rep

the guy doesnt read, i just said that

I've seen many people do that in nb problem? still doesn't change the fact that Sakura hasn't matured as much as you and the other guy thinks.

sakura has matured alot since part 1

if you think she is the same now as she was in part 1 then i dont think we are reading the same manga

if you havent noted yet naruto does have a looot of stuff which you can compare to real life..thats the point behind shonen mangas..helping people to handle their life..and grow up so yea comparing a manga with real life is the only right thing one could do...but most poeple are too narrowminded to do so...sadly U_U

that doesnt change the fact that her hitting naruto is a JOKE, he isnt really hurt in anyway

It's sad because she has all these good attributes
Fantastic medical ninjutsu
Super Strength
Intelligence

But she still somehow manages to be useless, but that's more of Kishi's fault for writing her that way.
I don't hate her though

saving people lives isnt "useless"

 

[Lilvic92]

You can't say a medic is useless. Kishi proved that with an entire chapter in regards to Medical Teams and Obito's plan behind with the medical team. And in terms of intelligence, let's forget she was the first to discover Obito's jutsu's basics.

About the other thing, I'll come back with an edit.




Oh, thanks hun.
Nah, people shouldn't be like me, I have by bad sides. But I do think we should respect one another and debate properly without any insults.
It doesn't help insulting the other one in any case.

Yeah I admitted she was smart. remember at the beginning of the series she was known as the smartest of the K11 (besides Shika) and she had better chakra control than Naruto and Sasuke.
I just wish she would get more emphasis on her improvements the same way Naruto and Sasuke grew together.

Naruto time skip vs Sasuke time skip
Naruto - Rasenshuriken vs Sasuke Kirin
Naruto - Sage Mode vs Sasuke - MS
Naruto - Kyuubi Mode vs Sasuke EMS
Naruto Bijuu Mode vs Sasuke - (coming soon)

Sakura should've at least gained some epic Medic shit, like some variation of Tsunade's Regeneration thingy. Or maybe a Sage Mode, that would've been epic for her but seeing as how she's up against Madara and Obito there's a small chance she's gonna go off on them.

 

[Chatte]

I agree that her concern for Sasuke was selfless (she wanted to save him from himself I guess) but this is irrelevant as the issue is Naruto.The problem is that her concern for Naruto was rooted in her own guilt in the first place, she was never worried about Narutos safety until Sai highlighted her involvement and if she truly cared about him, she would have respected his right to the truth. I suppose here we have a difference in moral and world view.

Edit: To preempt the Im contradicting myself argument, I mean her concern for Sasuke and not Sasuke as a motivation in the confession.

You could argue about her selfishess up till then, but afterwards, as I told you, it was clearly selfless. She was ready to let Naruto hate her if that meant he's alive and well.

But as you said, we have a difference so, I think we won't come to a common point, I guess...

Yeah I admitted she was smart. remember at the beginning of the series she was known as the smartest of the K11 (besides Shika) and she had better chakra control than Naruto and Sasuke.
I just wish she would get more emphasis on her improvements the same way Naruto and Sasuke grew together.

Naruto time skip vs Sasuke time skip
Naruto - Rasenshuriken vs Sasuke Kirin
Naruto - Sage Mode vs Sasuke - MS
Naruto - Kyuubi Mode vs Sasuke EMS
Naruto Bijuu Mode vs Sasuke - (coming soon)

Sakura should've at least gained some epic Medic shit, like some variation of Tsunade's Regeneration thingy. Or maybe a Sage Mode, that would've been epic for her but seeing as how she's up against Madara and Obito there's a small chance she's gonna go off on them.

Who says she won't get? The manga is not over yet, Tsunade is on the verge of her death. When masters died, students got power-ups.
So it ain't over until the fat lady sings!