Why is Hashirama on a pedal stool?

sage22

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20? doesnt matter they were elite.

elite shinobi>fodders.

if were talking about elite shinobi we are talking about plp like itachi or kakashi

20 itachis> 10000 fodders

plus it took both of the kin/gin bros to take on 1 man and they still died.

dont underestimate tobirama.

and you dont need to see much from a man that was comped to the so6p

Ok my point is hashirama died at a young age before the 1st ninja war was stated in the first databook.
Next I couldnt care less about tobirama he hasnt shown anything to impress me. Finally he was never compared to the sage of six paths. Kabuto said people believed his abilities to be a myth like people they believed the sage of six paths was a myth. But hiruzen on the other hand had the same nickname as the sage of six path. They were both known as thr god of shinobi.
 

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hey kid hiruzen never defeated hashi it was an edo hashi controlled by oro which was far below his prime

2- he wasnt killed by a fodder ninga but by one of the strongest shinobi kakuza

3-20 ellite ninza can easily take down 20000 fodder ninzas so no problem with that

4-kin and gin bro with 9 tail chakra could solo those fodder ninzas so to take on gin and kin squad solo was a fleat

so no comparison senjus were the godlike and hashi was a god

even tho im on ur side kakuzu never killed hashi it was said he simply fought him and kakuzu lost we dont know how he died.
 

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Ok my point is hashirama died at a young age before the 1st ninja war was stated in the first databook.
Next I couldnt care less about tobirama he hasnt shown anything to impress me. Finally he was never compared to the sage of six paths. Kabuto said people believed his abilities to be a myth like people they believed the sage of six paths was a myth. But hiruzen on the other hand had the same nickname as the sage of six path. They were both known as thr god of shinobi.

for hashirama it was said hes power was a myth like the so6p. thats being compared to the sage.

a title is only hype show me a manga chap of hiruzen being to the so6p ill wait.
 
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Dude I already told u I'm not here to give u links n u want to talk about comparisons. Kabuto saying jashirama ABILITIES were a myth like the sage of six paths is cool. But being called the god of all shinobi sounds so much better.
 

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Because Madara, the man who is kicking the ass of all 5 kages at once to the point where he wants to walk away and find Naruto because fighting them was too "boring", said that Hashirama is the only person who could beat him.

And the word is PEDESTAL
 

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Ok I honestly don't get why people think so highly of hashirama. [1] Let's break down what has been giving to us by kishimoto. [2] First thing to remember it has already been stated that the next generation surpasses the previous. [3] Now hashirama was made first hokage cuz he was the strongest ninja of his time. [4] This was stated in the first databook n reconfirm by madara who said people called him the strongest shinobi. [5] He was famous for his kekkei genkai n his abilitiy to control the tail beast. That is why kabuto says his abilities were considered fairytale. [6] Now obviously his powers were not a fairytale to the people in the leaf village since he use that power to create the village. [7] Now madara claims hashirama could heal his wounds instantly but he died before the 1st shinobi war to a no name fodder ninja. Even his brother was defeated by 20 elite ninja n the 3rd raikage killed 10,000 ninja once. So why do fans think so highly of him when the only real thing we have seen from him is a defeat to his former student. [8]

1. Agree

2. You misinterpreted his words.

3. Agree

4. False, The First Hokage selection already felled to Hashirama Senju, not because of his "Strength" (or strongest shinobi), but all the villagers and people from all over the country supported him. [Manga Chapter 399, Page 8]

5. I agree to disagree, as where is the Proof.

6. False, it was not stated of him being famous for his abilities. In fact, his abilities were consider a Fairytale (or Myth) compared to the Sage, as said by Kabuto.

7. Assumption or Speculation.

8. Why is this a problem? Fans have to look at the reality and fictional of things in Naruto and learn how to come to terms with both. No one is truly God in front of an enemy. They can all die. It could be from a thrown kunia to a sword slash.
 

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because he is the only person we know in the manga who can defeat the strongest ninja weve seen in the series. pedestal by the way..
 
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