Why is Hamura on the Moon if Gedo can easily be summoned?

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maybe because kishi is a shit writer and had billions of plot holes. manga only got its popularity because of part 1 part 2 was just a train wreck of inconsistencies and muh sauce
 

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The movie was not written by Kishimoto
 

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You need the same eyes as the Sage of six paths to summon gedo...

How the hell is that easy?

Gedo is probably attuned to Rinnegan users since Hamura and Hagoromo probably thought there wouldn't be any other Rinne-users to exist.
 

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Since all Nagato had to do was get mad, do a couple hand signs and there it was..

Maybe you confused here

Madara the only one summoned Gedo Mazo from moon using his knowledge on Rinnegan and Outer Path.

What make Nagato and Obito easily summoned Gedo Mazo is because Gedo Mazo already on earth and not inside the moon.
 

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So would it be the most accurate assumption to say that whilst Hamura was alive and kicking the Gedo Statue was safe and secure inside the moon?

We understand that only someone using a Rinnegan can control it which makes a lot of sense. The only person during that time was Hagoromo.

We see black zetsu trying to make Indra activate the Rinnegan but as far as we know he failed.

If Indra would have succeeded at activating the rinnegan. Do you think he could have summoned the Gedo it from the moon?

The statue probably would've been summoned still. I don't believe anything can stop a rinnegan from summoning the statue. Hamura may have seen the seal being broke, but I don't see how he could stop the actual warping of the statue.
 

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The statue probably would've been summoned still. I don't believe anything can stop a rinnegan from summoning the statue. Hamura may have seen the seal being broke, but I don't see how he could stop the actual warping of the statue.

I dont understand, were people in here think Hamura still alive when Madara summoned Mazo from moon?
 

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The only logical explanation is that the brothers didn't think that someone could awaken the rinnegan and gain the ability to summon it. It did take someone like BZ to help progress the rinnegan in Madara. I guess they were afraid of random ninja just going to the moon and reactivate it there.
 

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Obviously he didn't knew some had the ability to "summon" the gedo.

He thought if you wanne have the jubi come to the moon.

But he is fodder
 

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Was not Hagoromo died after he sealed Mazo and left Indra and Ashura. At that time Uchiha and Senju clan not born yet And Hamura never sealed Juubi inside himself and he is not immortal.

Both Hagoromo and Hamura died thousand or hundreds years before Madara is born.

I am not talking about Juubi here, I am talking about the God Tree's power or more specifically the power of the fruit. One thing that it grants is immortality. The God Tree's powers were taken by Kaguya, which was then inherited by Hagoromo and Hamura, then Indra and Ashura and then Sasuke, Naruto and Hinata.

God Tree -> Kaguya -> Hagoromo and Hamura.

Hagoromo -> Indra and Ashura.

Indra -> Sasuke.

Ashura -> Naruto.

Hamura -> Hinata. Hamura gave his powers to Hinata in the Last. This is very suspicious as it mirrors how Hagoromo gave his powers to Naruto and Sasuke.

Moreover, Hagoromo was not the only one who sealed the Juubi, Hamura also played a role, which shows the existence of a missing link. Hagoromo is Yin (Moon) and Yang (Sun). What is Hamura then ? (VM me if you want to know the secret. :rolleyes: )

My point is Hamura and Hagoromo were immortal because of thier inheritance from the God Tree. Something must have happened to turn them into spirits and thier bodies into shells. (The Gedo Mazous).

So would it be the most accurate assumption to say that whilst Hamura was alive and kicking the Gedo Statue was safe and secure inside the moon?

Yes, it was. Madara summoned Gedo Mazou from the Moon only after his death.

We understand that only someone using a Rinnegan can control it which makes a lot of sense. The only person during that time was Hagoromo. We see black zetsu trying to make Indra activate the Rinnegan but as far as we know he failed.

That's why Black Zetsu used Indra to make him awaken the Rinnegan to bypass the seal. He might have succeeded cause we did see Indra with Spiral Rinnegan.

If Indra would have succeeded at activating the rinnegan. Do you think he could have summoned the Gedo it from the moon?

Yes, he would have. Hagoromo knew this would happen eventually and left the tablet to prevent that. The tablet was a big problem in Black Zetsu's plans so he changed it to his convenience.

P.S: Most of this is all speculation, sure Kishi has given many hints but it's still not facts until Kishi actually shows us what happened in Part 3. Instead of posting Nonsense (Most people would think that without any solid evidence), I suggest you or anybody else who is interested VM me over this matter.
 
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I dont understand, were people in here think Hamura still alive when Madara summoned Mazo from moon?
I didn't see any say that but hamura probably died long before madara's birth, and probably the other okatsuki also.
 

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First of all, the movie isn't Kishimoto's doing. It's semi-filler, so don't take it too serious.

Second, how would Gedo Mazou even be ''easily summoned'' when it requires a Rinnegan?

Third, the Juubi's physical body was sealed and it essentially became the Moon. It was much better for something so dangerous to be as far away from humankind as possible.

Lastly, according to the Fourth Databook, Hagoromo told Hamura to wait and observe humankind from a far for a millenium, although I can't really find this particular citing. The whole point of Hamura taking charge was so that he could lead the Ootsutsuki and guard the Ten Tails' husk along with his clansmen.
 

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I didn't see any say that but hamura probably died long before madara's birth, and probably the other okatsuki also.

Its because Madara awaken the rinnegan and summoned Gedo Mazo when he got older and near his death. And from there I assume the farthest limit Hamura can lives maybe 20 years after madara was born plus his time before Madara born.

Plus Madara used Izanagi and prolonged his life time span and also using Mazo as life support. Madara lives to long for Hamura able to see Mazo being Summoned from moon.

Consider Madara when he is using Izanagi was 25 years old and when he awaken the rinnegan at 90 years old. Thats to long for Hamura to stayed alive.

I'm jut speculate there but logically its impossible for Hamura lives that long spanning over numbers of Generations
 
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Thats just a filler movie don't worry about it!
 

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As they mentioned, Hamura was already dead and perhaps the Ootsutsuki clan had fallen apart by the time Madara summoned the Rinnegan. I forgot where it was stated there was a war amongst them.


I also believe that they weren't counting on someone awaking the Rinnegan much less finding out about the Gedo Statue. IMO, BZ might've been the one who added that information into the tablet to further his goals.
 

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The Last isn't canon.
 
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