Why is Everyone Surprised about the Anime being Canon??

[Monkey D Uchiha]

Why is everyone surprised about the stuff that Hayate wrote about Kishi involvement with Kaguya, Indra/Ashura stuff when the Anime in their own form of originality has always been canon in their own right ??

The so called "Filler" was brought by fanfic western troll making up in the dictionary when in Japan there is no such concept it was never been publicize from any studios nor by the words coming from the author mouth.

SP is gonna make Naruto Great Again!

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Filler doesn't actually exist.

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Kishimoto doesn't care and he doesn't see it that way. People who care about canon and non-canon religiously are the kind who treat it as a sport or a religion rather than entertainment. It's a fan-created restriction and the fact people actively make the show redundant and ruin the fun for themselves is a little sad.

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Kishimoto was never the single sole author of Naruto. Never ever, editors, influences and fan favourites mean that the auteur is NOT god and his works are not like, ancient biblical law.​

 

[NextGenNinja]

I see there's 123filler sympathizers. Absolutely disgusting.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

People on here are too shallow to acknowledge this no matter what you tell them, it's a competition sport for them- not a show or a story.

Leave them to it, more Naruto for us :')

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^ Official clarification that the novels are relevant and happened also. Not that an actual announcement matters, they release an official Naruto novel series- I read the official Naruto novel releases. They're awesome and contradict with nothing.

 

[Monkey D Uchiha]

People on here are too shallow to acknowledge this no matter what you tell them, it's a competition sport for them- not a show or a story.

Leave them to it, more Naruto for us :')

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^ Official clarification that the novels are relevant and happened also. Not that an actual announcement matters, they release an official Naruto novel series- I read the official Naruto novel releases. They're awesome and contradict with nothing.

The more Naruto content, the better for us =)

 

[Holy God]

"Filler" is a term that describes something that, as the term implies, fills something in. Filler is used by animators so that they do not catch up too fast to the manga or to simply produce more cash. Since it is neither written nor confirmed by the author, it cannot be considered an actual part of the story they envision. The same goes for what just recently happened. The statement you are so hooked on does not truly say anything about the extra episodes being a part of the actual story.

 

[Monkey D Uchiha]

I see there's 123filler sympathizers. Absolutely disgusting.

Hmm so does that mean you sympathize each other about how you guys succumb to using the word "fillers" so much??

 

[lndra]

Funny because the official time line by the Author lists only the movies, and the Manga.

"Canon" term doesn't exist for the author, when he wrote one and didn't list any of that filler crap. :lol

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

"Filler" is a term that describes something that, as the term implies, fills something in. Filler is used by animators so that they do not catch up too fast to the manga or to simply produce more cash. Since it is neither written nor confirmed by the author, it cannot be considered an actual part of the story they envision. The same goes for what just recently happened. The statement you are so hooked on does not truly say anything about the extra episodes being a part of the actual story.

Yeah, we know the definition

The point is that Kishimoto is NOT the only god-assigned auteur that this forum puts him on a pedestal as being. If you're talking debating in the VS section then...maybe discount anime feats but there's still no actual reason to do that. If it doesn't contradict what already exists then it only adds to this fictional world.

And even then! the 'canon' contradicts itself often too, so what does it actually matter and why should a line be drawn yknow?

 

[NeutralDjinn]

A lot of times the filler just causes problems with continuity and worldbuilding when it is not consistent. For some people this makes a show less enjoyable to watch.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

A lot of times the filler just causes problems with continuity and worldbuilding when it is not consistent. For some people this makes a show less enjoyable to watch.

Canon does this also.

The only valid argument against filler is that it ruins pacing. Every other reason for it being invalid or irrelevant can be disproven.

 

[NeutralDjinn]

Canon does this also.

The only valid argument against filler is that it ruins pacing. Every other reason for it being invalid or irrelevant can be disproven.

Canon does this, but filler is even worse. In my mind, Anime and Manga take place in two separate worlds. I enjoy both, but I don't like mixing them together unless it works in my mind.

 

[Monkey D Uchiha]

A lot of times the filler just causes problems with continuity and worldbuilding when it is not consistent. For some people this makes a show less enjoyable to watch.

Look at Dragon ball Super!!! It has THREE Different Continuity, one from the movie, one from the anime, and one from the manga. Who is to tell which one to determine the continuity??

 

[NextGenNinja]

Hmm so does that mean you sympathize each other about how you guys succumb to using the word "fillers" so much??

You don't get it though, there is such thing as what's official and what isn't to the storyline. Official is an actual thing, it's just that we fans say canon instead of official. Filler is a fan made term as i never seen kishi or his editors use that term before but holygod explains it pretty much. It's also used for unofficial material,etc. Kishi is the author so his word is absolute, he's actually confirmed stuff for being officially part of the naruto storyline like the last, boruto manga. He's never said this for the anime at all...

 

[NeutralDjinn]

Look at Dragon ball Super!!! It has THREE Different Continuity, one from the movie, one from the anime, and one from the manga. Who is to tell which one to determine the continuity??

The original canon branched out into 3 different parallel timelines.

 

[patrickscott]

i'm not tripping, it just proves how bad writing can get.

 

[BlacLord™]

Why is everyone surprised about the stuff that Hayate wrote about Kishi involvement with Kaguya, Indra/Ashura stuff when the Anime in their own form of originality has always been canon in their own right ??

The so called "Filler" was brought by fanfic western troll making up in the dictionary when in Japan there is no such concept it was never been publicize from any studios nor by the words coming from the author mouth.

SP is gonna make Naruto Great Again!

Filler doesn't actually exist.

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Kishimoto doesn't care and he doesn't see it that way. People who care about canon and non-canon religiously are the kind who treat it as a sport or a religion rather than entertainment. It's a fan-created restriction and the fact people actively make the show redundant and ruin the fun for themselves is a little sad.

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Kishimoto was never the single sole author of Naruto. Never ever, editors, influences and fan favourites mean that the auteur is NOT god and his works are not like, ancient biblical law.​

The one thing you should never do is presume; filler is not a made-up Western concept. Filler is a fan-made synonym for "anime adaptation original content". It denotes material not authorized by the creator (and Kishi does care). It's important to make the distinction because it doesn't originate from the author's hand, and he doesn't get a say and so, it has no place in the storyline and more than this, often contradicts canon material.

Kishimoto expressed his discontent with the implementation of kunai guns used in the 1st Movie. Furthermore, that very same movie featured cars, film and the like... stuff that contradicts Kishi's ideas. And using the picture of Raiga doesn't amount to much, since anime features implemented into the manga is totally different from anime created material, since the author chose to add him in.

 

[Monkey D Uchiha]

You don't get it though, there is such thing as what's official and what isn't to the storyline. Official is an actual thing, it's just that we fans say canon instead of official. Filler is a fan made term as i never seen kishi or his editors use that term before but holygod explains it pretty much. It's also used for unofficial material,etc. Kishi is the author so his word is absolute, he's actually confirmed stuff for being officially part of the naruto storyline like the last, boruto manga. He's never said this for the anime at all...

Yet Kishi still "approves" any official licensed Naruto-related stuff since he holds the copyright and all that, so it's also unofficial to say that Kishi word is absolute when Kishi was never the single author to produce a single Naruto as a franchise. SP holds the contract so in their own right the anime has their own continuity whereas the manga has their own. You can't separate that.
Dragon ball super is one of the example.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Canon does this, but filler is even worse. In my mind, Anime and Manga take place in two separate worlds. I enjoy both, but I don't like mixing them together unless it works in my mind.

They are equally as bad. If a contradiction of world-building facts is all it takes to create a separate world then the canon manga would do that a lot. Ages, locations and other facts are contradicted often.

As long as you realise that that is in your mind, and that's awesome- enjoy your fictional world how you like but the issue here is people invalidating huge parts of the Naruto series and ruining it for others telling them what did and didn't happen like law.

 

[Insidious Smile]

People on here are too shallow to acknowledge this no matter what you tell them, it's a competition sport for them- not a show or a story.

Leave them to it, more Naruto for us :')

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^ Official clarification that the novels are relevant and happened also. Not that an actual announcement matters, they release an official Naruto novel series- I read the official Naruto novel releases. They're awesome and contradict with nothing.

LOL! What the hell? You think Naruto fans aren't aware that Kishimoto had the assistance of editors, etc? You need to acknowledge the fact that there is a difference between canon and noncanon. The Naruto manga is canon; the Naruto anime isn't canon.