Why is everyone saying manga is going downhill?

[God Of Destruction]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

this guys talking like hes a better writer than kishi

XD lol u are right

 

[Megatolium]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

this guys talking like hes a better writer than kishi

Lol no way.

Kishi just messed up. Everyone who writes knows about this trap. It's known to kill both logic and plot.

Just look at all the trolling after Nagato's death.

 

[Lord madara solos]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

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[Natsu Shazneel]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

Though really difficult to avoid, Kishimoto didn't implement enough plots for it to develop later.

The more plots get resolved, the less there is.

Sooner or later Kishimoto is forced to improvise and develop from thin and stretched plots.
I guess this is the major cause of "asspulls" and "trolls".

I'm a writer myself, I don't blame Kishimoto. For a series that's been running for a decade its really difficult to develop a chapters without a new arc.

Can you write us your version of Naruto? So we can see and grasp your brilliance?

 

[Naruto9001]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

There's still some plots that haven't been resolved. Such as Hamura's role in all of this, Why Kaguya wanted everyone's chakra, What are Sasuke's true motives that have been hinted at for a while, Naruto vs Sasuke, if they are going to fight, Who's going to be the new Hokage, What are Kabuto and Orochimaru going to do after the war, etc.

But yeah the way Kishi resolves his plots sometimes annoy me, especially when they don't make any sense.

 

[God Of Destruction]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

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[Megatolium]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

There's still some plots that haven't been resolved. Such as Hamura's role in all of this, Why Kaguya wanted everyone's chakra, What are Sasuke's true motives that have been hinted at for a while, Naruto vs Sasuke, if they are going to fight, Who's going to be the new Hokage, What are Kabuto and Orochimaru going to do after the war, etc.

But yeah the way Kishi resolves his plots sometimes annoy me, especially when they don't make any sense.

Too many people here are butthurt to admit Kishi went from good to terrible.

I nearly dropped the series when Madara got killed. But being a fan since the humble beginnings its hard to let go lol

 

[Lord madara solos]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

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[Natsu Shazneel]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

Too many people here are butthurt to admit Kishi went from good to terrible.

I nearly dropped the series when Madara got killed. But being a fan since the humble beginnings its hard to let go lol

So Kishi's "brilliant" writing got you attached.

 

[Megatolium]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

So Kishi's "brilliant" writing got you attached.

It wasn't bad at the beginning.

Ever since the Pain Arc the series was literally drifting away from smart battles and tactics, felt less "ninja-ish" and more DBZ.

The destructive direction is probably the laziest way to please fans.

If you're gonna base a manga off ninjas at least don't break the theme. It's like Goku learning how to drive and participating in the Grand Prix to save the world.

 

[Vicmann]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

Lol no way.

Kishi just messed up. Everyone who writes knows about this trap. It's known to kill both logic and plot.

Just look at all the trolling after Nagato's death.

True that. Kishi messed up big time.

 

[Retsu]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

He already said in one interview that he wished he'd have introduced more things earlier in the series that could have been expanded upon later on down the road, so I agree with your statement.

 

[Vicmann]

Everyone's opinion is different dude.

 

[Naruto9001]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

Too many people here are butthurt to admit Kishi went from good to terrible.

I nearly dropped the series when Madara got killed. But being a fan since the humble beginnings its hard to let go lol

I know i'm not saying that the current manga isn't bad, you said in the OP that Kishi has ran out of plots which is what I was replying to. There's still many of plots left it's just how Kishi's been resolving them which creates the plot holes.

 

[Lightbringer]

Because it's rushed and the Kaguya arc was the worst arc in the history of Naruto.

It only lasted 10 chapters. The most powerful character in all of Naruto with all Chakra Natures and KKG was mentally handicapped. She also received no character development whatsoever.

 

[cafe123]

It's going downhill because the plot is getting uninteresting.

 

[baah]

its not... it seems so here... because lots of members brags about their assumptions... and even more members laughs at how wrong they were... they say its going downhill to hide their humiliation...

 

[awesomeseimei]

Re: Kishi's Mistake / Reason for "Downhill".

He already said in one interview that he wished he'd have introduced more things earlier in the series that could have been expanded upon later on down the road, so I agree with your statement.

Yeah, keep in mind that mangakas often can't show everything they wish due to editors' demands, deadlines etc..