Why is Cee a Kage Bodyguard when Omoi is the more competent Shinobi?

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Cee's Abilities:

C is a sensor-type shinobi, allowing him to sense the chakra of others even from extended distances. Additionally he is a medical-nin which gives him an even greater support role on the battlefield. He also appears to be very analytical, and knowledgeable on foreign shinobi techniques, as he is shown recognising Sasuke Uchiha's Mangekyō Sharingan,[3] along with Amaterasu,[4] even having knowledge on Itachi Uchiha's use as well.[5] C was able to deduce how Sasuke's Blaze Release worked after only seeing it once.[6]

C is a skilled genjutsu user, witnessed from his use of the Lightning Illusion Flash of Lightning Pillar technique which makes use of his Lightning Release nature transformation to emanate light from his entire body to blind his opponents.[7] His genjutsu prowess is further exemplified by his placing a secondary genjutsu within the first.[8]

All of these abilities also imply a mastery of multiple skills requiring very fine chakra control. Also of note is when he went to defend the Raikage from the bodyguards of the other Kage he took a defensive, taijutsu stance, implying that he is competent in close-range combat as well.[9]

Part II

C located Sasuke and his team and reported a number of samurai casualties as they got nearer. When they arrived, C launched an attack with his Lightning Illusion Flash of Lightning Pillar technique to blind Sasuke and his team, creating an opening for the Raikage and Darui to attack. The Raikage then instructed C to find and eliminate Sasuke's sensor. C was not able to defend himself properly during his search, and despite Darui's attempts to keep him safe, he is struck by one of Sasuke's genjutsu and passed out. Darui later revived him and helped him get on his feet, and together they observed the Raikage's fight with Sasuke. The Raikage was eventually struck by Sasuke's Amaterasu and was forced to cut off his arm. When the fight was interrupted by the Sand Siblings, C used medical ninjutsu and stopped the bleeding and silently worried about how far the Raikage was willing to go.[10]

Omoi's Abilities:

Omoi is a very capable ninja, having been specifically chosen by the Fourth Raikage for certain missions. Even Kakashi Hatake commended Omoi's strength and went on to say losing him was a major loss.[3] He is also very resilient, able to continue to fight after being hit by many lightning attacks by Ameyuri Ringo.[4] Similarly, he is shown able to hold his breath for a noticeably long period of time while still fighting effectively.[3]
Kenjutsu
Kumo-Ryū Mikazukigiri

Omoi using Cloud-Style Crescent Moon Beheading.

Omoi is highly proficient in kenjutsu, he has good teamwork skills with his team-mate Karui despite their constant bickering, and they were able to use fluent attack patterns without communicating with each other during their scuffle with Team Kakashi.[5] He also incorporates taijutsu in his collaborative attacks with Karui, and was able to send Sakura Haruno flying a considerable distance away with a kick.[6] He uses a fairly long katana into his fighting style which was praised by Sasori, after Omoi was able to free Tokuma Hyūga and Ranka from Sasori's control.[7] He also was able to defend himself against Sasori's puppets at the same time with his swordplay. He can easily counter a barrage of attacks with a single swipe of his blade and just as effectively attack from behind himself surprising his opponent.[7] In the anime, he is also shown very clever in battle, able to use feint attacks and deceptions with shadow clones or the Body Replacement Technique as set ups for a final blow.[4]
Nature Transformation
Raiton Sandāboruto

Omoi using Lightning Release: Thunderbolt.

Besides physical combat, Omoi has noted that he can use Lightning Release to a certain extent, such as infuse his sword with lightning.[8] In the anime, he is also shown able to produce a strong bolt that when guided by water will take out fair number of enemies. He can also collaborate his lightning chakra with others to produce a powerful lightning burst.[3] d

Omoi Part II

Five Kage Summit Arc

As they near Konoha, Omoi worries that, once they got there, a girl would fall for him and, once he had to leave, she would commit suicide out of loneliness. After a short argument with Karui, she threw a rock at him. He then worries that the rock could cause an avalanche that would bury Konoha. Karui insists that he overreacts too much. When they arrive in the village they find that it is nothing but a crater, which Omoi blames Karui for. They ask around and find out that about the recent invasion of Pain.
Omoi and Karui confrontation

Karui and Omoi confront Team Kakashi.

While Samui meets with the Hokage, Omoi and Karui overhear Naruto, Sakura, and Sai talking about Sasuke, B's captor. They demand all information they have on Sasuke, leading to a brief scuffle between the two groups. Omoi informs them of Sasuke's actions and promises to take vengeance against him which, if Konoha and Kumo are to be allies, they should help him with by providing information that can be used to kill Sasuke. Naruto assures them that there may be time to save B and offers to tell them everything they want to know. When it comes time do to so, however, Naruto can't bring himself to sell out Sasuke. He offers to let Karui beat him up, which she gladly does. Omoi watches for a time but then encourages her to stop, commenting that Naruto didn't seem to be the type of guy to rat out a friend - despite them being an enemy - which Omoi respected.

After reuniting with Samui, the team goes to the Konoha Archive Library to make a copy of all of Konoha's intel about Sasuke. As they set out to rendezvous with the Raikage, Omoi is glad to see that Karui is worrying about the injuries she gave Naruto. They deliver the information to the Raikage in the Land of Iron before returning to Kumo. When the later Raikage returns to the village with B, Omoi asks him about his new sword.
Shinobi World War Arc
Cloud Style Trechery

Omoi frees Tokuma and Ranka.

When the Fourth Shinobi World War begins, Omoi is placed in the Surprise Attack Division under the command of Kankurō. Omoi questions Kankurō's leadership abilities and experience considering they were around the same age, but Kankurō assures him that nothing will stop him from protecting his comrades and completing their mission. When they later set up a base camp, Omoi sets traps around their perimeter. These measures do not stop an Akatsuki attack, yet Omoi is quick to engage the hostile forces. He discovers that they are actually allies, forced to attack them by Sasori. Omoi releases them and, after getting them medical attention, regroups with the rest of his division.[7]
Omoi and Kankuro attack Shin

The Ambush Squads battle.

Because Deidara is among the enemy's ranks, the division needs a way to deactivate his earth-based explosive clay. Omoi volunteers to to try neutralising the clay with his lightning-infused sword. After he and Kankurō engage Shin who was being manipulated by Sasori and struggles to hit a moving target, Omoi is finally able to pierce Deidara after they are ruthlessly attacked by enraged Sai and is trapped in one of Kankurō's Black Ant puppets, deactivating his bombs.

Omoi, Sai, and Zaji are sent out to find other Akatsuki cells. They come across and attack a group consisting of Haku, Zabuza, Gari, and Pakura, but Sai's aerial attack of explosive tags fail and Haku attacks them using his Demonic Mirroring Ice Crystals. Before they can be killed the Third Division arrives to help. They later join the division protecting Kakashi while he executed his strategy.[9]
Kumo-Ryū Damashigiri

Omoi clashes with Ameyuri Ringo.

In the anime, he, Zaji, and Sai would later join up with the Third Division and battle Fuguki Suikazan and he and Zaji would go off to aid Maki and her team to fight Gari and Pakura.[10] When Yurui's team was set upon by Ameyuri Ringo, he and a few others were able to escape the attack. As they retreated on Nurui's orders, Omoi was adamant that they could not run forever and needed to make a stand and fight despite Nurui's disapproval. Disregarding his orders, he leaves Nurui and Kayui to confront Ameyuri head on. An intense battle with the kunoichi soon ensued and though Kayui and Nurui returned to offer assistance, they were struck down by the legendary swordswoman and her swords. In the end, Omoi was able to trap Ameyuri in a marsh and as they both sank, reinforcements arrived and were able to rescue Omoi. Ameyuri, who had taken a liking to Omoi, gave him her swords as a parting gift before being completely submerged in the marsh.[4]
Raiton Renkei Sandābomu

Omoi and the Thundercloud Unit finish off the White Zetsu Army.

Later, when Omoi learned that the Thundercloud Unit, a small new supply unit of children was in danger, Omoi chose to leave his post to save them. Despite some initial refusal from the Raikage, he ultimately allowed Omoi to go with the condition of returning in one hour. Along the way he encountered two thousand more White Zetsu. While a Naruto Uzumaki clone arrived to help him, excited by the idea of becoming Raikage Omoi attacks the White Zetsu Army and accidentally hit Naruto's clone, dispersing it. While Omoi was able to hold his own against the army, they began emerging from a red material and gained its properties starting to exhale a red dust cloud with poisonous effects, forcing Omoi to fight while holding his breath. He found the team and combined their lightning-chakra to disperse the poison cloud. After the Zetsu were defeated and Omoi brought the Thundercloud Unit to their location, Raikage demanded Omoi return to his post before the hour was up or be punished, prompting Omoi to hastily rush back.[3]
 

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I doubt Omoi is any more than a Chunin whereas Cee is definitely a Jounin.

Most of the Omoi section you copied from the Wiki is from filler including the section about Ameyuri. Omoi is simply more fodderish than Cee and less versatile.
 

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Cee is a sensory ninja, a genjutsu expert, and a medical ninja. Omoi is a competent swordsman, Bees student, and utilizes a couple lighting jutsu. Darui is a great swordsman, Third Raikages student, and utilizes many complex ninjutsu in fights. Taking Omoi would have been a waste because Darui does everything he does but 10x better.
 

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Cee is a sensory ninja, a genjutsu expert, and a medical ninja. Omoi is a competent swordsman, Bees student, and utilizes a couple lighting jutsu. Darui is a great swordsman, Third Raikages student, and utilizes many complex ninjutsu in fights. Taking Omoi would have been a waste because Darui does everything he does but 10x better.
All Omoi can do is flow Raiton chakra through his sword, that's it.

Everything else is filler.
 

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Cee's Abilities:

C is a sensor-type shinobi, allowing him to sense the chakra of others even from extended distances. Additionally he is a medical-nin which gives him an even greater support role on the battlefield. He also appears to be very analytical, and knowledgeable on foreign shinobi techniques, as he is shown recognising Sasuke Uchiha's Mangekyō Sharingan,[3] along with Amaterasu,[4] even having knowledge on Itachi Uchiha's use as well.[5] C was able to deduce how Sasuke's Blaze Release worked after only seeing it once.[6]

C is a skilled genjutsu user, witnessed from his use of the Lightning Illusion Flash of Lightning Pillar technique which makes use of his Lightning Release nature transformation to emanate light from his entire body to blind his opponents.[7] His genjutsu prowess is further exemplified by his placing a secondary genjutsu within the first.[8]

All of these abilities also imply a mastery of multiple skills requiring very fine chakra control. Also of note is when he went to defend the Raikage from the bodyguards of the other Kage he took a defensive, taijutsu stance, implying that he is competent in close-range combat as well.[9]

Part II

C located Sasuke and his team and reported a number of samurai casualties as they got nearer. When they arrived, C launched an attack with his Lightning Illusion Flash of Lightning Pillar technique to blind Sasuke and his team, creating an opening for the Raikage and Darui to attack. The Raikage then instructed C to find and eliminate Sasuke's sensor. C was not able to defend himself properly during his search, and despite Darui's attempts to keep him safe, he is struck by one of Sasuke's genjutsu and passed out. Darui later revived him and helped him get on his feet, and together they observed the Raikage's fight with Sasuke. The Raikage was eventually struck by Sasuke's Amaterasu and was forced to cut off his arm. When the fight was interrupted by the Sand Siblings, C used medical ninjutsu and stopped the bleeding and silently worried about how far the Raikage was willing to go.[10]

Omoi's Abilities:

Omoi is a very capable ninja, having been specifically chosen by the Fourth Raikage for certain missions. Even Kakashi Hatake commended Omoi's strength and went on to say losing him was a major loss.[3] He is also very resilient, able to continue to fight after being hit by many lightning attacks by Ameyuri Ringo.[4] Similarly, he is shown able to hold his breath for a noticeably long period of time while still fighting effectively.[3]
Kenjutsu
Kumo-Ryū Mikazukigiri

Omoi using Cloud-Style Crescent Moon Beheading.

Omoi is highly proficient in kenjutsu, he has good teamwork skills with his team-mate Karui despite their constant bickering, and they were able to use fluent attack patterns without communicating with each other during their scuffle with Team Kakashi.[5] He also incorporates taijutsu in his collaborative attacks with Karui, and was able to send Sakura Haruno flying a considerable distance away with a kick.[6] He uses a fairly long katana into his fighting style which was praised by Sasori, after Omoi was able to free Tokuma Hyūga and Ranka from Sasori's control.[7] He also was able to defend himself against Sasori's puppets at the same time with his swordplay. He can easily counter a barrage of attacks with a single swipe of his blade and just as effectively attack from behind himself surprising his opponent.[7] In the anime, he is also shown very clever in battle, able to use feint attacks and deceptions with shadow clones or the Body Replacement Technique as set ups for a final blow.[4]
Nature Transformation
Raiton Sandāboruto

Omoi using Lightning Release: Thunderbolt.

Besides physical combat, Omoi has noted that he can use Lightning Release to a certain extent, such as infuse his sword with lightning.[8] In the anime, he is also shown able to produce a strong bolt that when guided by water will take out fair number of enemies. He can also collaborate his lightning chakra with others to produce a powerful lightning burst.[3] d

Omoi Part II

Five Kage Summit Arc

As they near Konoha, Omoi worries that, once they got there, a girl would fall for him and, once he had to leave, she would commit suicide out of loneliness. After a short argument with Karui, she threw a rock at him. He then worries that the rock could cause an avalanche that would bury Konoha. Karui insists that he overreacts too much. When they arrive in the village they find that it is nothing but a crater, which Omoi blames Karui for. They ask around and find out that about the recent invasion of Pain.
Omoi and Karui confrontation

Karui and Omoi confront Team Kakashi.

While Samui meets with the Hokage, Omoi and Karui overhear Naruto, Sakura, and Sai talking about Sasuke, B's captor. They demand all information they have on Sasuke, leading to a brief scuffle between the two groups. Omoi informs them of Sasuke's actions and promises to take vengeance against him which, if Konoha and Kumo are to be allies, they should help him with by providing information that can be used to kill Sasuke. Naruto assures them that there may be time to save B and offers to tell them everything they want to know. When it comes time do to so, however, Naruto can't bring himself to sell out Sasuke. He offers to let Karui beat him up, which she gladly does. Omoi watches for a time but then encourages her to stop, commenting that Naruto didn't seem to be the type of guy to rat out a friend - despite them being an enemy - which Omoi respected.

After reuniting with Samui, the team goes to the Konoha Archive Library to make a copy of all of Konoha's intel about Sasuke. As they set out to rendezvous with the Raikage, Omoi is glad to see that Karui is worrying about the injuries she gave Naruto. They deliver the information to the Raikage in the Land of Iron before returning to Kumo. When the later Raikage returns to the village with B, Omoi asks him about his new sword.
Shinobi World War Arc
Cloud Style Trechery

Omoi frees Tokuma and Ranka.

When the Fourth Shinobi World War begins, Omoi is placed in the Surprise Attack Division under the command of Kankurō. Omoi questions Kankurō's leadership abilities and experience considering they were around the same age, but Kankurō assures him that nothing will stop him from protecting his comrades and completing their mission. When they later set up a base camp, Omoi sets traps around their perimeter. These measures do not stop an Akatsuki attack, yet Omoi is quick to engage the hostile forces. He discovers that they are actually allies, forced to attack them by Sasori. Omoi releases them and, after getting them medical attention, regroups with the rest of his division.[7]
Omoi and Kankuro attack Shin

The Ambush Squads battle.

Because Deidara is among the enemy's ranks, the division needs a way to deactivate his earth-based explosive clay. Omoi volunteers to to try neutralising the clay with his lightning-infused sword. After he and Kankurō engage Shin who was being manipulated by Sasori and struggles to hit a moving target, Omoi is finally able to pierce Deidara after they are ruthlessly attacked by enraged Sai and is trapped in one of Kankurō's Black Ant puppets, deactivating his bombs.

Omoi, Sai, and Zaji are sent out to find other Akatsuki cells. They come across and attack a group consisting of Haku, Zabuza, Gari, and Pakura, but Sai's aerial attack of explosive tags fail and Haku attacks them using his Demonic Mirroring Ice Crystals. Before they can be killed the Third Division arrives to help. They later join the division protecting Kakashi while he executed his strategy.[9]
Kumo-Ryū Damashigiri

Omoi clashes with Ameyuri Ringo.

In the anime, he, Zaji, and Sai would later join up with the Third Division and battle Fuguki Suikazan and he and Zaji would go off to aid Maki and her team to fight Gari and Pakura.[10] When Yurui's team was set upon by Ameyuri Ringo, he and a few others were able to escape the attack. As they retreated on Nurui's orders, Omoi was adamant that they could not run forever and needed to make a stand and fight despite Nurui's disapproval. Disregarding his orders, he leaves Nurui and Kayui to confront Ameyuri head on. An intense battle with the kunoichi soon ensued and though Kayui and Nurui returned to offer assistance, they were struck down by the legendary swordswoman and her swords. In the end, Omoi was able to trap Ameyuri in a marsh and as they both sank, reinforcements arrived and were able to rescue Omoi. Ameyuri, who had taken a liking to Omoi, gave him her swords as a parting gift before being completely submerged in the marsh.[4]
Raiton Renkei Sandābomu

Omoi and the Thundercloud Unit finish off the White Zetsu Army.

Later, when Omoi learned that the Thundercloud Unit, a small new supply unit of children was in danger, Omoi chose to leave his post to save them. Despite some initial refusal from the Raikage, he ultimately allowed Omoi to go with the condition of returning in one hour. Along the way he encountered two thousand more White Zetsu. While a Naruto Uzumaki clone arrived to help him, excited by the idea of becoming Raikage Omoi attacks the White Zetsu Army and accidentally hit Naruto's clone, dispersing it. While Omoi was able to hold his own against the army, they began emerging from a red material and gained its properties starting to exhale a red dust cloud with poisonous effects, forcing Omoi to fight while holding his breath. He found the team and combined their lightning-chakra to disperse the poison cloud. After the Zetsu were defeated and Omoi brought the Thundercloud Unit to their location, Raikage demanded Omoi return to his post before the hour was up or be punished, prompting Omoi to hastily rush back.[3]

No
Cee. Is a jounin and omoi is chu
 

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I doubt Omoi is any more than a Chunin whereas Cee is definitely a Jounin.

Most of the Omoi section you copied from the Wiki is from filler including the section about Ameyuri. Omoi is simply more fodderish than Cee and less versatile.
he beat a member of the 7 swordsmen of the mist who are jounin look at this scan:

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This scan suggest they are far more competent than the average Jounin and considering the Member Omoi fought was of the best member using the Kiba Swords, Kabuto summoned the strongest generation of the 7 swordsmen of the mist
 

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he beat a member of the 7 swordsmen of the mist who are jounin look at this scan:

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This scan suggest they are far more competent than the average Jounin and considering the Member Omoi fought was of the best member using the Kiba Swords, Kabuto summoned the strongest generation of the 7 swordsmen of the mist
Omoi vs. Ameyuri Ringo was filler.
 

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Cee may be a Sensor & a Medic but he was also a risk every combat opportunity he needed to be saved, Darui had to defend him, he got caught in Genjutsu and passed out in a combat scenario he clearly isn't competent he almost got killed by Suigetsu before Darui protected him
 

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Cee may be a Sensor & a Medic but he was also a risk every combat opportunity he needed to be saved, Darui had to defend him, he got caught in Genjutsu and passed out in a combat scenario he clearly isn't competent he almost got killed by Suigetsu before Darui protected him
He was facing MS Sasuke; get a grip.

Omoi is fodder through and through, and has never even faced a noteworthy shinobi. Cee is a Jounin - a very skilled medic, who also has genjutsu and has good intelligence feats.

If Omoi was put in Cee's place, he would have come out of the Summit in a coffin. Omoi is no more than a Chuunin, and Cee is a Jounin; and far more competent at that.
 

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Blaclord just ended it. First, unless the fight was shown in the manga, which I can't recall. It's considered filler and thus cannot be included into his skill. Second I doubt he is able to do something like how Chee deduced the workings of Sasuke's Enton. His skills are Bee-Trained Kenjutsu and Lightning Style.

Shee is sensor, medic, and medics are supposed to have better than average in intelligence.
 

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He was facing MS Sasuke; get a grip.

Omoi is fodder through and through, and has never even faced a noteworthy shinobi. Cee is a Jounin - a very skilled medic, who also has genjutsu and has good intelligence feats.

If Omoi was put in Cee's place, he would have come out of the Summit in a coffin. Omoi is no more than a Chuunin, and Cee is a Jounin; and far more competent at that.
Cee couldn't even notice Suigetsu about to end his life, he would be dead without Darui, Omoi would of beat Suigetsu based on his proficiency with Lightning Release
 
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