Why Ichigo's Parentage Makes Sense and is Good for the Manga

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I really don't get all the hate for this revelation that I've seen on various forums about Ichigo being a part Quincy, so I'll cover the points I've seen being made against it:

"Ichigo doesn't need another type of power":
It's not about what he needs, it's about what makes sense for the story. It may seem like an ass pull but there *have* been foreshadows of this for a long time. Ichigo has been a hybrid for awhile now, so it's okay for him to have almost every kind of power but not all of them? Him being part Quincy completes the circle, it makes him the ultimate hybrid, it makes him someone that could be the key to many things, the only one capable of many things. YES he should train more with his existing powers, my point here is this proves that Kubo's powerups were there for a reason, that is was all building up to this. People like Aizen have shown an unusual interest, you really think human-shinigami-hollow was enough to warrant that? No, not even close.

"Masaki being a Quincy makes no sense."
Seems the main argument against this is that she died. We were all able to accept that Isshin was a captain level shinigami that lost his power and was unable to protect his family, yet we can't accept that Masaki was a Quincy that died? They most likely gave up their abilities to help protect and hide their family. We also don't know how strong she was in general, hollows do kill Quincy and shinigami. For all we know she was weakened during the Quincy war, or had given up being a practicing Quincy years and years before.

"There has never been any hint of Ichigo having Quincy blood."
This is most certainly false, it has been subtle but there have been more than a few hints. Masaki had an amulet that she had given to Isshin, that ended up protecting Kon from Grandfisher. Why would a human possess something like that? You can't say it belonged to Isshin because he specifically says it was Masaki's, and that Masaki gave it to him. Really the only other explanation beyond her being something more than just human would be that it was something Urahara made. But given this revelation, it supports that Kubo was giving a hint that there was more to the eye.

Ichigo's bedspread has Quincy colors and the Quincy symbol. Small, unimportant, but very very obvious. Kubo did not do that unintentionally. Probably something Ichigo's had forever and he never thought twice about it, but we've seen how Quincy are. They LOVE their symbolism, so it probably originally belonged to Masaki.
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Aizen's comment that Isshin interrupted. This sentence was mistranslated in a couple of places so I forget the correct way but it was either "You are a shinigami and -" or "You are a human and -". Now this works either way, think about it, why would Isshin interrupt this sentence? Ichigo being a human is nothing special and we already knew he was a shinigami, Ichigo is standing there in his shinigami clothes, fighting with other shinigami...how is this a revelation? So why did Isshin interrupt? On the next page Ichigo has a monologue where he's saying "It was obvious what Aizen was about to say." No, it really wasn't. You can't take what a character believes to be true as fact (ie. Harry Potter overhearing a conversation between Snape and Quirrel and assuming Snape was being the bad guy.). I would bet money on the fact Aizen was about to reveal that Ichigo was in fact, part Quincy.

Lastly, in this very arc, Bach shares a resemblance to Zangetsu and Bach's sword looks like a smaller version of Ichigo's shikai. The curve at the end of the blade especially, looks just like what you see on Ichigo's sword. I believe the last page isn't literal, but I do believe that Bach is probably Masaki's father, therefore Ichigo's grandfather. It ties everything together.

"This power should have been awakened before now."
Ichigo's interactions with Quincy power have been limited to Uryuu and Ryuuken. There has only been maybe once or twice where Ichigo was really in direct contact with Quincy reiatsu. The only one that stands out to me is when Uryuu and Ichigo fought together against the Menos Grande. Ichigo's power has grown a lot since then and he didn't have bankai, it could be as simple as Ichigo didn't release a high enough level of reiatsu at that moment or absorb any of Uryu's reiatsu at that moment. Bach made it pretty clear what it took this time for Ichigo to awaken this power. Proximity to a Quincy just isn't enough, there has to be a lot of power and reiatsu involved and we just simply have no seen these circumstances until now. Not to mention these Quincy are also at a level we have yet to see.



Biggest ass pull in this chapter was actually Aizen being able to fux with Bach's perception while bound up in prison with no zanpakuto, therefore no shikai. Though despite that, yay Aizen :3
 
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still kind of an ass pull, but I'll see where this takes us.
 

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Makes complete sense to me, and I was recently introduced to Bleach.
 

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I said ichigo was a Quincy after he Became a fullbringer. It only made since that he was connected to every major power up. I never thought that Bach was his grandpa but I did consider that ichigo's mom was ryuuken's sister. Ryuuken and isshin seem to have history. I'm thinking it's about more than the shinigami, Quincy conflict. I think Masaki fell in love with isshin and now Ryuuken is mad that isshin didn't protect her.
 

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I said ichigo was a Quincy after he Became a fullbringer. It only made since that he was connected to every major power up. I never thought that Bach was his grandpa but I did consider that ichigo's mom was ryuuken's sister. Ryuuken and isshin seem to have history. I'm thinking it's about more than the shinigami, Quincy conflict. I think Masaki fell in love with isshin and now Ryuuken is mad that isshin didn't protect her.

I completely agree with this.
 

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Agreed thank god someone gets it...however there is one thing though I'd like to point out which for some odd reason everyone seems to just skip out Ichigo has never been fully human he's always been half Shinigami and half Quincy it's not some new development in his blood he's had it since he was born they have both laid dormant until he's needed them.
 

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i totally agree to this! kudos to u!
and i like the side note about aizen too! :ice:
 

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Agreed thank god someone gets it...however there is one thing though I'd like to point out which for some odd reason everyone seems to just skip out Ichigo has never been fully human he's always been half Shinigami and half Quincy it's not some new development in his blood he's had it since he was born they have both laid dormant until he's needed them.

Yes exactly, his shinigami powers just go awakened first, thanks to Aizen (since he claims to have sent Rukia and the hollows after Ichigo). His Quincy powers simply laid dormant much longer, they were always a part of him though.

i totally agree to this! kudos to u!
and i like the side note about aizen too! :ice:

Glad to see not everyone misses the point xD

And haha ;D Aizen is epic but I'm still baffled at how he pulled that off
 
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