Why I think that Mangekyou Sharingan is KKT

[Avaitto]

Sharingan is KKG, Rinne Sharingan is KKM so Mangekyou sharingan should be KKT.

The reason why I think that it's KKT is because Kekkei Tōta: Bloodline Selection is beyond Bloodline limit because some Uchiha's have MS but their abilities are different, and KKG is something like ice which can't compare to MS, it's like a KKG for a KKG.

The main reason why I think that's the case is this:

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If having TSB grants you all KKG: Bloodline limit like Ice, sand, etc for Kaguya and not Dust release it means that it doesn't grant You KKT: Bloodline Selection which is for selected people, Kaguya doesn't have Amaterasu, Susanoo, Kotoamatsukami.

And not even every MS have the exact KKT.

Abilities like MS's should have a name to clarify it and make it special to people and make it not being replicated by people with RSM like Hagoromo, Kaguya, Hamura because they have all KKG.

What do you think, do agree or disagree?

 

[ComplexCity]

A non bash/wank thread? Am I in heaven?



OT: No, its a KKG

 

[Avaitto]

A non bash/wank thread? Am I in heaven?



OT: No, its a KKG

It can't be the same level as Sharingan.

Please tell me why do think that.

 

[ComplexCity]

It can't be the same level as Sharingan.

Please tell me why do think that.

Cause the sharigan was stated to be a KKG


Unless you can show otherwise, then I will agree with you

 

[Claymantan]

A non bash/wank thread? Am I in heaven?



OT: No, its a KKG

Tfw Sasuke the last Uchiha is making the most reasonable threads of the day

OT: Depends. Susanoo is still basically a KKG; do you think Enton isn't a KKG since it's based on Amaterasu/Kagutsuchi? It's still basically a release like ice or lava or acid. Kamui and Tsukuyomi, maybe. MS is just inconsistent because Kishi didn't know what he was doing.

 

[Avaitto]

Tfw Sasuke the last Uchiha is making the most reasonable threads of the day

OT: Depends. Susanoo is still basically a KKG; do you think Enton isn't a KKG since it's based on Amaterasu/Kagutsuchi? It's still basically a release like ice or lava or acid. Kamui and Tsukuyomi, maybe. MS is just inconsistent because Kishi didn't know what he was doing.

KKG is blood line limit.

KKT is blood line selection.

kaguya has all KKG but not all KKT.

 

[Claymantan]

KKG is blood line limit.

KKT is blood line selection.

kaguya has all KKG but not all KKT.

Sharingan is KKM, but can't do Blaze Release. You need MS to do Blaze Release. If MS is KKT, then Blaze Release is KKT; so you think Kaguya can't do Blaze Release?

 

[Nagi]

Tfw Sasuke the last Uchiha is making the most reasonable threads of the day

OT: Depends. Susanoo is still basically a KKG; do you think Enton isn't a KKG since it's based on Amaterasu/Kagutsuchi? It's still basically a release like ice or lava or acid. Kamui and Tsukuyomi, maybe. MS is just inconsistent because Kishi didn't know what he was doing.

I really don't like the whole concept of Susanoo mode. Well as far as creating a big humanoid. Sasuke should've gotten a chakra mode like Naruto.

Instead of having incomplete Susanoo protecting him, it should be his aura protecting him instead.

 

[Avaitto]

Sharingan is KKM, but can't do Blaze Release. You need MS to do Blaze Release. If MS is KKT, then Blaze Release is KKT; so you think Kaguya can't do Blaze Release?

Mmm I said Kaguya has all KKG, Sasuke's abiliteis are KKT, if you are saying that Blaze Release is KKG than it needs Amaterasu which is KKT.

Blaze Release can't create black flames.

Sharingan is KKG.

 

[Claymantan]

Mmm I said Kaguya has all KKG, Sasuke's abiliteis are KKT, if you are saying that Blaze Release is KKG than it needs Amaterasu which is KKT.

Blaze Release can't create black flames.

Sharingan is KKG.

Eh, I dunno. the only other example is Dust Release. Which Naruto could probably do in theory.

Kishi broke the manga with RSM.

 

[Prince Badman]

Sharingan is KKG, Rinne Sharingan is KKM so Mangekyou sharingan should be KKT.

The reason why I think that it's KKT is because Kekkei Tōta: Bloodline Selection is beyond Bloodline limit because some Uchiha's have MS but their abilities are different, and KKG is something like ice which can't compare to MS, it's like a KKG for a KKG.

The main reason why I think that's the case is this:

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If having TSB grants you all KKG: Bloodline limit like Ice, sand, etc for Kaguya and not Dust release it means that it doesn't grant You KKT: Bloodline Selection which is for selected people, Kaguya doesn't have Amaterasu, Susanoo, Kotoamatsukami.

And not even every MS have the exact KKT.

Abilities like MS's should have a name to clarify it and make it special to people and make it not being replicated by people with RSM like Hagoromo, Kaguya, Hamura because they have all KKG.

What do you think, do agree or disagree?

I don't know much about KKT but how many of them have we actually seen? As far as MS is concerned the special abilities of the MS portray the user's chakra and soul.....Sasuke was an exception since Itachi gave him amaterasu...Shisui had KA, Obito had Kamui....Itachi being a genius had one for each eye...Tsukuyomi and amaterasu...but as far as Kaguya is concerned i think when zetsu said she had all KKGs he meant for the general ones.....special abilities related to a particular user don't make them a KKT.....also it was implied during the fight that Kaguya was no genius when it came to using jutsus neither she had the knowledge.....so even if she had the ability to use them if she wasn't acquainted with the technique she can't use it......why she didn't use a particular ability, i guess the answer is she was too arrogant

 

[SenseiSama]

It's a KKG, Sharingan has been confirmed to be a KKG since part 1

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Kakashi had DMS because Obito transmigrated into him, without transmigration Kakashi would need Obito's eyes to use Sharingan feats therefore making the dojutsu a bloodline limit.


EMS would be considered KKT because it requires someone elses's eyes making it more advanced than kekkei genkai

 

[Avaitto]

Eh, I dunno. the only other example is Dust Release. Which Naruto could probably do in theory.

Kishi broke the manga with RSM.

Dust is KKT he can't do it.

 

[Koinzell]

Sasuke Negs ALL.

 

[Avaitto]

It's a KKG, Sharingan has been confirmed to be a KKG since part 1

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Kakashi had DMS because Obito transmigrated into him, without transmigration Kakashi would need Obito's eyes to use Sharingan feats therefore making the dojutsu a bloodline limit.


EMS would be considered KKT because it requires someone elses's eyes making it more advanced than kekkeu genkai

I know Sharingan is KKG but MS is KKt.

 

[Urda]

Mmm I said Kaguya has all KKG, Sasuke's abilities are KKT, if you are saying that Blaze Release is KKG than it needs Amaterasu which is KKT.

Blaze Release can't create black flames.

Sharingan is KKG.

Your whole thread is about Mangekyou Sharingan being Kekkei Tōta. I disagree. It is a Kekkei Genkai because it's nothing but an evolved form of Sharingan.

Let's go to your quote

The reason why I think that it's KKT is because Kekkei Tōta: Bloodline Selection is beyond Bloodline limit because some Uchiha's have MS but their abilities are different

Those abilities are all derived from the same Kekkei Genkai. Yeah, they are different, but it has nothing to do with genetics. It is all to do with the traits of the Mangekyou Sharingan.

 

[SenseiSama]

Dust is KKT he can't do it.

Yes he can RSM grants all elements

 

[Claymantan]

Dust is KKT he can't do it.

If we're assuming Naruto can do every KKG, why not KKTs like Dust Release? It's just adding one more chakra nature to the jutsu

 

[SenseiSama]

I know Sharingan is KKG but MS is KKt.

MS is still a Sharingan, therefore making it a KKG.

 

[Avaitto]

I don't know much about KKT but how many of them have we actually seen? As far as MS is concerned the special abilities of the MS portray the user's chakra and soul.....Sasuke was an exception since Itachi gave him amaterasu...Shisui had KA, Obito had Kamui....Itachi being a genius had one for each eye...Tsukuyomi and amaterasu...but as far as Kaguya is concerned i think when zetsu said she had all KKGs he meant for the general ones.....special abilities related to a particular user don't make them a KKT.....also it was implied during the fight that Kaguya was no genius when it came to using jutsus neither she had the knowledge.....so even if she had the ability to use them if she wasn't acquainted with the technique she can't use it......why she didn't use a particular ability, i guess the answer is she was too arrogant

So you are going with the logic that it's a KKG for selected people but it's not KKT...ok.

Dust is 3 elements that come from 2 KKG. a KKG lets you combine 2 and a KKG lets you combine one of the 2 with a third one.