Why I think Edo Hashirama beats Edo Madara

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Madara hasn't shown Planetary Devastation...

His perfect susanoo is weaker than the Kyuubi + PS.

Because he hasn't shown it doesn't mean he can't use it. Those abilities are BASIC Rinnegan Jutsu. ALL who obtain the Rinnegan can use those Jutsu I listed in my post #37 (barring Shattered Heaven).
 

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Just because he has the Rinnegan doesn't mean he can use it as well as Nagato did.

You are making up feats.

No I do not, it is obvious logic. It's the same as saying Madara doesn't have Amaterasu..


Madara knows way much more about Rinnegan than Nagato, and knowledge leads to Jutsus, plus we saw Madara using Outer Path, Preta Path and so if he hasn't use it it means he didn't need it, it does not mean he doesn't have it.

After all these are all Basic Rinnegan Techniques, not like Meteorites which is unique jutsu of Madara, just because of his knowledge.
 

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Because he hasn't shown it doesn't mean he can't use it. Those abilities are BASIC Rinnegan Jutsu. ALL who obtain the Rinnegan can use those Jutsu I listed in my post #37 (barring Shattered Heaven).

If Obito, wielder of the Rinnegan, had the Chibaku Tensei , the fight between him, Naruto Gai and Kakashi would have gone differently.
 

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No I do not, it is obvious logic. It's the same as saying Madara doesn't have Amaterasu..


Madara knows way much more about Rinnegan than Nagato, and knowledge leads to Jutsus, plus we saw Madara using Outer Path, Preta Path and so if he hasn't use it it means he didn't need it, it does not mean he doesn't have it.

After all these are all Basic Rinnegan Techniques, not like Meteorites which is unique jutsu of Madara, just because of his knowledge.

I told him the same thing. He's just trolling at this point.
 

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I told him the same thing. He's just trolling at this point.

I figured as much, I feel ashamed to be debating with a retard like him, I'm out, good luck on being a fanboy author.

EDIT : Lool look at that post about Obito fight, that' is so so so dumb.. at any point I'm out.
 

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If Obito, wielder of the Rinnegan, had the Chibaku Tensei , the fight between him, Naruto Gai and Kakashi would have gone differently.

Just having a tecnique doesn't mean he would use it. NOTICE!!! Naruto NEVER ONCE tried to BLITZ Obito. And we know Naruto has speeds comparable to that of Flying Raijin!

Next Arguement. . .
 

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I told him the same thing. He's just trolling at this point.

Very well. Let's do this differently.

Show me the slightest hint of a proof that Madara can use Chibaku Tensei or has full mastery of the Rinnegan.
 

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I figured as much, I feel ashamed to be debating with a retard like him, I'm out, good luck on being a fanboy author.

EDIT : Lool look at that post about Obito fight, that' is so so so dumb.. at any point I'm out.

I already countered it. ^_^
 

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Just having a tecnique doesn't mean he would use it. NOTICE!!! Naruto NEVER ONCE tried to BLITZ Obito. And we know Naruto has speeds comparable to that of Flying Raijin!

Next Arguement. . .

Also the same with Madaras Amaterasu, manga proved he has it, but he never used it which means it is not good enough of a jutsu fot him, just not by using it doesn't mean you can't use it.

That was the last thing I wanted to say to help Genesis deffend against a fanboy.
 

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Just having a tecnique doesn't mean he would use it. NOTICE!!! Naruto NEVER ONCE tried to BLITZ Obito. And we know Naruto has speeds comparable to that of Flying Raijin!

Naruto was fighting in a ruined battlefield that doesn't allow him to use his full speed.
 

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Huh

Your whole argument is based on....if Madara can do this..Hashirama can do better.

Madara never used Perfect Susanoo as you claim it to be.....he used unstabilized Perfect Susanoo which is the lower level of the true Perfect Susanoo.

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^Here you can see that Madara is using the ghost alike Susanoo that he used against the five Kage.

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^Again, he's using that same Susanoo that he protected with the Kyuubi from the Bijuudama..

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^Here is Madara stabilizing the Incomplete Perfect Susanoo to a Complete stabilize Perfect Susanoo

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^If Madara used Perfect Susanoo against Hashirama then please show me the legs of the Perfect Susanoo as my upper Manga scan shows.

So, as far as i know....Hashirama never fought against Madara with Perfect Susanoo, but rather Madara with only unstabilized Perfect Susanoo.

Stabilized Perfect Susanoo>>>>unstabilized Perfect Susanoo

Again, you're wrong bro

Hashirama was only able to caught a Bijuudama do it small size compare to Madara's Meteorite Technique.....Hashirama isn't caughting Madara's Meteorite Technique no matter how you slice it.

Edo Madara has the power of Nagato+Hashirama+EMS Madara

Madara needs the Juubi to fight Hashirama right now? laughable
Funny that when I made a whole thread about this, people kept calling me retarded :|

Mokuton is not simple ninjutsu. It creates life.

Take your own advice and reread the manga. Start with Chapter 1 please.
Nontheless its still ninjutsu
Therefore it has chakara, which is absorbable by the Preta Path
Don't insult ppl when you don't even know what you're talking about

OT: Edo Madara is haxxed so Edo Madara > Edo Hashirama
 

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Naruto was fighting in a ruined battlefield that doesn't allow him to use his full speed.

Madara has meteorites, why the hell would he use such a weak technique like Chibaku Tensei ?
 

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Don't insult ppl when you don't even know what you're talking about

I didn't insult anyone. '' Go read the manga '' is not an insult.

Nontheless its still ninjutsu

It's ninjutsu that has life. YOu can't absorb that. It's not chakra, it's something physical.
 

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Madara has meteorites, why the hell would he use such a weak technique like Chibaku Tensei ?

Actually, The Planetary Devastation IMO would be better, but I won't debate you on that. Anyway, his arguement on the whole ruined battlefield junk is just stupid. He could've just went Host Transformation as soon as he got Tailed Beast Mode back and just blitzed his ass and been done with the whole thing. No little bit of rubble is going to stop the motherf**king Nine Tails. But THIS is my last arguement on this lame thread. I'm out.

He can have fun trolling the others.
 

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He absorbed the chakra in Naruto, he didn't absorb Naruto.

He can absorb the chakra in the mokuton and make it inanimate, he can't absorb the wood itself.
 

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Well Kishi himself actually said that Edo Madara "has no weaknesses". Alive Hashirama > Edo Hashirama as it stands Madara has an immense advantage imo.
 

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EMS Madara & Kyuubi vs. Hahsirama -> Hashirama barely wins.

Rinnegan Madara vs. Hashirama... -> Madara wins High Difficulty

Since I know how easily Rinnegan can own Bijuu, and in so many ways, I'm thinking the Rinnegan is more of an upgrade than just using the Kyuubi. Plus, Madara is now an Edo, which makes him even more of a threat. Madara will win High Difficulty. I still don't think Hashirama will give in so easy.
 
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