Well, I wouldn't rule it out. It all depends on what kind of power scaling Oda adopts. If the Gorosei are the strongest warriors of the WG or there are others we don't know about stronger than admirals, game on. But at the moment, it looks unlikely.
[Predictions] Why I believe The Mid Trio will be all admiral level EOS
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Uzumaki Macho
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Wtf is wrong with you? Mihawk is yonkou level and Zoro will become stronger than him EoS. I know you hate Zoro but don't say stupid stuff like that. Also, try being more respectful in your posts and maybe more people will like you.
Well there are multiple misconceptions with your post and I will start with the most obvious:
* People don't like me ?, that's just absurd
* Me hating Zoro, funny how that suddenly popped up out of nowhere and how it is completely irrelevant. If you think that I hate Zoro, please quote a post where I say so, not asking for much, only one will do.
and the most important one:
* Mihawk being yonkou level.
You just based this on air. It's bullshit.
There is so much going against Mihawk not being yonkou lvl, why don't you just state one thing that puts him on that level.
* WB didn't even flinched when he was facing the world's strongest slash, in fact his underling took care of it.
* Mihawk agreed to fight WB, but wasn't able to come close to the only yonkou in that war for the entire time
* In fact he had a little scuffle with Vista, on which Mihawk decided that it would be a waste of time to fight.
* Shanks was able to duel Mihawk with a sword a lot of years ago, and Shanks probably isn't a full fledged swordsman. Yet it was enough to compete with the WSS.
So no, Unlike your shallow posts based on air and assumption, I do not think Mihawk is yonkou level, and I applaud you for backtracking that to that coming fourth out of my unlimited hate towards Zoro.
Also everytime I had to type yonkou level I had to cringe a bit because I don't believe in anything like a yonkou or admiral level. But it was your fault I needed to resort to dummy tactics.
Uzumaki Macho
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Wait you really think Mihawk was being serious against Vista and at MF? Shanks probably doesn't even use his sword all the time I his fights. Also, you did not provide any legit reason for Mihawk not being close to equal with Shanks. You always go around calling someone stupid, retarded, and dumbass whenever they disagree with you, I can understand if they say some really stupid stuff like Ace being faster than Luffy, but you do it over some pretty debatable stuff. You really need to work on your manners.
Well neither did you so I think everything I said was justified.
But stacking assumption on assumption to state that Zoro will be yonkou level in ten years time is pushing it a bit in my book.
Also it's not entirely true that I go around calling people stupid, it's mainly you. It seems you've got a habit of stating things which I don't find particularly smart. Maybe I should state it like that next time.
EDIT: I also really think the counter argument of 'oh but he wasn't even serious in that fight' such a let down. It's such a disappointment in a debate. Vista was even smiling and actually wanted to go again, and Mihawk was in the war of the best. There is no reason to believe that he was taking it slow after firing off the worlds strongest slash, or that Vista was fighting at 100% either. You can't have it both.
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Uzumaki Macho
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I see you call people stupid every time they say something that is in favor of Zoro. If you think Im stupid for saying Mihawk is yonko level then you must think most of this section is stupid since most people here agree.
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Oh mah gawd, what's up with the Zoro thing. It's like propaganda at this point. Why are you trying to brush me off as someone who doesn't like Zoro. Like I said before just show me one post where I actually said something unfair about Zoro's qualities. If you can't do it, just shut up about it. I sadly come in the position sometimes where I need to emphasize that Zoro doesn't have certain abilities but I blame that on the Zoro fandom. If they say that he can beat Vergo, I will say how they hell do you think he would manage that ? It's not just Zoro but I'll crash Sabo parties just as hard, or whatever character who is promoted to admiral slayer of the week. It's called common sense, try it sometime instead of assuming that i hate Zoro or any other character for that matter.
Also I really think most people don't agree with the statement that Mihawk is equal to Shanks at this point. If the three powers are balanced then why are there 7 shichi's and 4 yonkou ? Why was Shanks able to spar with the WSS in equal terms while it probably isn't even his main method of attack. Why was Mihawk's role in the war of the best limited to battling the henchmen ?
All fair questions that can't be answered by you, there are no feats or statements that place Mihawk on that yonkou pedestal, so let's not do that. I think most people would agree that with me.
Mihawk did intend to clash with Whitebeard. The introductive air slash was like an invitation to a fight. It's just that Jozu ruined everything. Mihawk wasn't there to fight Jozu. He was only interested in 2 people during that war, Whitebeard and Luffy, the former to measure his strength, the latter to judge the potential.
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He isn't equal to Shanks, he is stronger. He clearly implied during their introductive panel in the manga that losing an arm weakened his previous rival to the point he wasn't worth fighting anymore. As far as we know, Shanks is a swordsman, so giving him a supplemental ability without facts is funny. And how do you even know that by the time he was sparring with Shanks he was already the world strongest swordsman?
Why the "henchmen" Jozu intervened to block his air slash? Marco already replied to that
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They weren't disposed to let them take the king right off the bat. Marco is the right when Jozu represents Whitebeard's left hand. If either of them intervened to stop assaults(from Kizaru and Mihawk), it shows that they found the attacks dangerous enough not to allow it to reach the "King"
There are 7 shichibukai because they vary in strength from the weak Buggy to the strong Mihawk. Brannew mentioned the fact the Shichibukais are on the same level as yonkou or marine HQ. Considering that Doflamingo(that many people think is the second strongest shichibukai) isn't admiral level and that we'd weak sauce like Crocodile(defeated by Arabasta Luffy) or Buggy among the organisation. For that statement to be true, the one on top of the Shichibukais(Mihawk) should be stronger than some yonkou/admirals
There is no statement that place Shanks on anything else outside swordsman, so let's not do that
He never stated anything about surpassing Roger. He just wants to become PK & have a crew (which obviously includes himself) stronger than Shanks & his crew. Luffy wanting to return Shanks' his hat back is even he become a great pirate (surpasses Shanks).
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Yeah man, Zoro is going to be rivals with someone he never met before or had ever mentioned. Also, Mihawk never said anything about Shanks' strength declining once he lost his arm. You're just assuming stuff that wouldn't even make sense. A more probable reason as to why Mihawk didn't want to fight Shanks was because he was handicap and thought it'd be unfair to fight someone like that. Mihawk & Shanks had duels far before their prime as well, a lot can change since then.
Of course he wants to surpass Shanks, but it's just a step. Shanks isn't the pirate king, he is just a yonkou. The pirate King is Roger, so indirectly his ultimate goal is Roger, not Shanks. Even Chinjao implied that. Luffy wants to surpass Roger
He never heard or met Vista, Cavendish, Bobbins, Kinemon, the shogun or wano and a lot of sworsmen before but whether he met them or not, they are indirectly his rivals because they are swordsmen and Zoro wants to be the greatest among them. He can easily meet Shanks at some point. Well Mihawk did say he can't be bothered fighting someone lacking his arm and it implies a lot of things and their duel were so legendary that Whitebeard was calling it like something happening yesterday
Rokudaime Hokage Naruto
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With 3 admiral level fighters and 3 above admiral level fighters it would be all to easy for the Straw Hats to take out the WG.
Uzumaki Macho
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Not really if they go in alone. The Gorosei are all probable admiral level and I'd guess that Kong is yonko level. Then you have to throw in the Marines, Cipher Pol, Impel Down, WG Agents, and every country's own personal army.
Rokudaime Hokage Naruto
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Nah I'm not buying that the Gorosei are fighters.
Apart from that you got Kong Akainu 3 Admirals, VAs, the rest are fodder and will probably be dealt via Haoshoku haki.
Uzumaki Macho
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Care to explain why some of them have scars and one carries around a sword(probably Shodai Kitetsu, one of the 12 Supreme Gade Swords).
Just a step? He fully said he wants to surpass his crew & find One Piece. Returning Shanks' hat and surpassing his crew is a long term goal of his, not a step. Luffy wants to become PK to gain the most freedom on the sea, not surpass Roger. Yes, Luffy will obviously surpass Roger as he's seen as his successor but he never specifically stated that he wants to surpass him. Luffy's aspirations > Zoro's aspirations, therefore Shanks > Mihawk. Shanks is already hinted at being the pinnacle of the OP top tiers as well seeing how he stopped the war at MF. Him clashing with WB & causing the sky to split in half (which was a feat that we've only seen the gura gura no mi do so far) is a feat that exceeds anything Mihawk has done so far.
Shanks is known more for his haki feats than his swordsmanship. We don't know the full extent of CoC in combat either but it could be the factor that places him above Mihawk.
Nope, he was referring to Shanks' handicap not him being inferior to his strength.
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Still the same rude idiot I see you are with utter lack of respect for other people who disagree with you.
*Absurd but true.
*Irrelevant but true.
*Anyone with half a brain knows we've seen very little to gauge Mihawk's strength. Of course there's no proof. It's a prediction.
*Did WB flinch facing Kizaru, Akainu or Aokiji? Right.
*Mihawk is depicted as moody. He wasn't interested in fighting Vista. He also lost interest when he confronted Don Krieg after humiliating Zoro. That make him any weaker?
*Shanks isn't a full fledged swordsman. Says the guy who also says you shouldn't base things off thin air. Wow. Talk about shallow posts based on air and assumption. That's why I can no longer take you seriously.
Why am I even bothering explaining something to you? It's a waste. And you'll just become a baby and neg rep me like always.