Why i believe FTG is one of the most versatile and dangerous technique in this manga

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This thread is to show why i believe that FTG is probably one of the most versatile jutsu if not the most versatile jutsu in this entire manga and thus explaining why i believe it's possible for Minato to defeat almost anyone

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On this pic i draw, there is Minato facing an unknown opponent. I already identified everything on the pic, but i will explain why some Hiraishin combos could be deadly. The points inside Gamabunta, toad barrier, or others represent the markings Minato initially prepared before hand.

Point number1:

Ever imagined if Minato teleported the enemy inside Gamabunta(with those markings)? Inside Gamabunta, the enemy could be captured or digested if worse exactly like what Jiraya intended to do to Itachi and Kisame inside Iwagama's stomach, or when Pa thrown Gamabunta to capture one of the Pain, except that with FTG it could happen much more easily

Point number2:

Ever imagined if Minato warps the enemy directly on the seal blade(already having the marking on it)? The opponents gets stabbed without even knowing what happens to him

Point number3:

On the marking location on the left of the seal blade(on my pic), it's a random place in high altitude where Minato puts his jutsu shiki, but around it there is a cliff(a large vacuum then). During a fight, imagine if Minato decides to teleport there, place a in the air(like described on the pic), come back and decide to warp his opponent there? The opponent would fall and die badly in this position

Point number4:

Ever imagined if Minato warps the opponent in a instead? It would work the same way like for Gamabunta but even better since the toad barrier isolate the target completely from the outside. So basically being trapped there is like being trapped in the kamui dimension

Point number5:

Ever imagined if Minato placed a seal near or inside the ? If he warps the opponent there, he would turn to a frog statue directly because he can't master the natural energy

Obviously for all that to happen, Minato still has to warp the enemy in the first place, but with someone with Minato's speed, it's far from far-fetched to believe he could close the distance without problems. In , i even explained why i believe that he doesn't even need a contact to warp the enemy

Now people may say that Minato didn't prepare some places like this when he was alive, but then i would ask you, why won't he if he has the possibility? We know there were plenty of places where Minato had the habit to put his markings when he was alive(inside or even outside konoha), so it's not far-fetched to think he could have prepared it on some locations like the ones posted on my pic.

Edit: I would like to add that for defensiv purposes besides the fact that Minato can teleport , he can even redirect attacks, redirect chakra based as powerful as a Tailed Beast Bomb:
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Just as a comparison, even great defenses like Gaara's sand or Susanoo may not even be capable to defend against this jutsu. That's why i believe S/T techniques in general are the most haxxed techniques in this manga. Obito with kamui alone for example is one of the strongest in this manga because he is difficultly touchable
 
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I have to agree.

Edit: Except for when you said he can beat almost everyone.
 
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almost everyone? disagree sorry. you are very clear minato's fan that make you so focus on him instead looking around people in manga. but nice thread thou
 

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I have to agree.

Edit: Except for when you said he can beat almost everyone.
Ok i see, but thanks anyway :)

almost everyone? disagree sorry. you are very clear minato's fan that make you so focus on him instead looking around people in manga. but nice thread thou
True that i'm a Minato fan, but i got the impression that this technique gets underrated and that people don't know the infinite possibility Minato has with this jutsu, it's why i wanted to create such a thread
 

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I don't really like fanboy threads, but I'll post anyway giving a small benefit of the doubt.


He still wouldn't be able to beat EMS Sasuke.

The Amaterasu ring makes it impossible for Minato get close.
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Amaterasu spam fireball would set objects like Gamabunta and warp locations on fire.
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On top of that you have Sasuke's Susanoo and Genjutsu to worry about.
 

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yes the jutsu was very versitile but speed isnt everything
 

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Ok i see, but thanks anyway :)


True that i'm a Minato fan, but i got the impression that this technique gets underrated and that people don't know the infinite possibility Minato has with this jutsu, it's why i wanted to create such a thread
You should have mentioned how Minato can warp techniques as well. That's sure to open some windows.
 

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Well he would be able to beat "almost everyone" if taken literally. I'm sure you guys can only think of maybe 5-6 people who have a good chance against him. He was supposed to be a genius and he has great speed/escape capability so I don't think we can rule him out against anyone completely. Considering how many ninja have been shown in the manga, he can definitely beat 95%. You guys jump to comparing him to Hashirama, and Madara without looking at the bigger picture which is that this guy was a Hokage feared unanimously.
 

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Hmmm nice thinking.You focus on strategies and tactics instead of power I like that.Not all battles are won with physical power,brain is a key on victory too.But still I have to admit that there are some people that he can't defeat.
 

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You should have mentioned how Minato can warp techniques as well. That's sure to open some windows.
True, i would add that, but that's something different. It's more for defensiv purposes or to redirect attacks :)
 

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I don't really like fanboy threads, but I'll post anyway giving a small benefit of the doubt.


He still wouldn't be able to beat EMS Sasuke.

The Amaterasu ring makes it impossible for Minato get close.
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Amaterasu spam fireball would set objects like Gamabunta and warp locations on fire.
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On top of that you have Sasuke's Susanoo and Genjutsu to worry about.


You sound more like the fanboy. He said ALMOST EVERYONE and was doing an analysis. All you did was defend Sasuke.
 

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Stop defending yourself to people who can't read. You made good points and did a nice analysis of a technique. All your points seem to be accurate and while there are some ways to counter the technique, you did say he can beat "almost everyone", leaving room for that possibility.

Nice job.
 

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Hmmm nice thinking.You focus on strategies and tactics instead of power I like that.Not all battles are won with physical power,brain is a key on victory too.But still I have to admit that there are some people that he can't defeat.
Thanks man, obviously i'm not saying he can defeat everyone, but that the jutsu is too versatile that it can become deadly against almost everyone from my point of view if used well
 

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Stop defending yourself to people who can't read. You made good points and did a nice analysis of a technique. All your points seem to be accurate and while there are some ways to counter the technique, you did say he can beat "almost everyone", leaving room for that possibility.

Nice job. Also, cool sig
 

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Stop defending yourself to people who can't read. You made good points and did a nice analysis of a technique. All your points seem to be accurate and while there are some ways to counter the technique, you did say he can beat "almost everyone", leaving room for that possibility.

Nice job. Also, cool sig
Thanks for agreeing with me man :D And yeah the sig is awesome :cool:
 

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@ the sasuke guy, minato could simply throw a kunai through the ring of fire lol

yeah ftg's limits are only set by how creative you can get. it's like edo tensei really, how much you prepare beforehand can multiply it's effectiveness. coupled with barriers and traps it would allow the user to dictate the fight. and if you add bunshin to that scenario it becomes even more insane
 

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@ the sasuke guy, minato could simply throw a kunai through the ring of fire lol

yeah ftg's limits are only set by how creative you can get. it's like edo tensei really, how much you prepare beforehand can multiply it's effectiveness. coupled with barriers and traps it would allow the user to dictate the fight. and if you add bunshin to that scenario it becomes even more insane
Great comparison. It's what i'm trying to explain as well thru this thread :)
 

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well good luck...there are to many minato haters out there, that clearly underestimate him. While he has not shown any really destructive abilities, he also being a master of fuuinjutsu, has shown few seals. And where did he learn that from. The uzumaki. And which clans were destroyed for being powerful. Lets see...: kinimarus clan, hakus clan, the uzumakis, the uchiha, senju?(i think senju clan split, into konohas clan, but it is possible that they were destroyed as welll).

So simply put, while minato is more skilled than many people think, he is not all powerful, as there are skilled people who can counter minato. The best opinion of minato, is that he is very powerful, likely in the top 3 of the hokages, but not much is known about his skills and abilities. Keep in mind, that minato was very young, likely still in his 20s(probably later 20s) and he still had more techniques to learn. and he has one great feat, that demonstrates his power. He made tobi look like a fodder. And tobi hasnt shown much improved personal abilities since then, other than using gedo, and controlling the paths.

My only purpose here is to talk from a more neutral perspective. While there are many people who overrate minato, there are many more that underrate him. The point made by the maker of this thread was valid, that minato has many ways to take out enemies. The only thing he did that was wrong was try to make it seem like minato was able to take out any person. As with all absolute defences and absolute attacks, all of them are counterable.
 

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Nice imagination you got there. I agree like many technique's with enough preparations the user can amplify its usage however some of your points are abit iffy.
 
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