Why I agree with Sasuke

[dewooder123]

This is completely opinion based; feel free to give your own thoughts or feedback on mine. But before you do, I politely ask that you first read what I have to say.

First and foremost, I completely agree that something needs to change or "revolution" as he would call it. But I don't feel that beating around the bush would ever fix the problem (IT pretty much avoids it). That said, I feel that the reason people don't agree with Sasuke right now is because he, like most of the other Uchiha, is an extremist. Because his methods aren't "normal" people think them to be incorrect when in actuality, we're the ones being blinded by a standard that we can't consider any other option.

Another thing that I agree completely with is his method against the tailed beasts. While I don't feel that they are at fault for doing anything, I would blame humanity for it. Later down the road, it is 100% guaranteed that someone will seek out their powers. He would probably come prepared to capture it and just like that the entire world would be in an enormously dire situation.

As for Sasuke wanting to kill the Gokage, I don't agree with it but I understand it. In his eyes (which in reality it's true) the Kage are the ones who created this situation. Most of them had utilized Akatsuki for selfish desires (besides Hidden Cloud) and others had people doing terribly shady things (Like ROOT which tried fueling the fire of war against the Hidden Stone and had Itachi wipe out the Uchiha clan). In short, he doesn't trust the Kage at all.

 

[Cursed Prince]

I agree with your agreement

 

[Hàdes1]

But killing The Five Will just cause more trouble

Someone Is going to avenge the Kages and Start another revolution

and Sasuke Will just kill them then the people will see that sasuke is a tyrant And finally a big Revolution.

Then A massacre Will happen.

Sasuke's Revolution will just make more trouble.

 

[Honord Sage]

Kill the Kages and have 5 Nations hunt you down,yea that smart Sasuke the moron.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Very good read Op. It's not many times I read a whole paragraph of a person's thoughts. I actually loved how smooth it was for me to read. I agree with your post.

 

[DanesoulX]

I agree with Sasuke, it's time someone attempts to make a change.

 

[Tarinth]

^Well, if he eliminated all bystanders, no one would ever need to know that he was the one that killed them.

Anyways... I don't know... a lot of the corrupt things the villages were doing were not even things caused
by the kages. There's a lot of much more shady characters that REALLY need to be eliminated. I don't
see someone like Tsunade being anywhere near as bad as Danzo. And the other villages probably have
Danzo like people.

 

[SAmIDeXtEr]

At this point revolution is pointless and absurd
Naruto is the guidian of the bijuu's, what could possibly go wrong not to mention all the five great nations are allies now
The aka taiko are gone,unless u expect random fodders to capture bijuu's lmao

 

[Anorien16]

First and foremost, I completely agree that something needs to change or "revolution" as he would call it. But I don't feel that beating around the bush would ever fix the problem (IT pretty much avoids it). That said, I feel that the reason people don't agree with Sasuke right now is because he, like most of the other Uchiha, is an extremist. Because his methods aren't "normal" people think them to be incorrect when in actuality, we're the ones being blinded by a standard that we can't consider any other option.

While people who have their eyes and senses open can see that the World is already changing, All the Shinobi no longer wears the symbols of their villages anymore but they are united by a common symbol and common purpose ...... this just needs guidance to make the 'revolution' that already began permanent. EVen the Kage's expressed the desire to let go of the past and create something better.

Also the system's head is the Fudal Lords who own the countries, Sasuke seem to be unaware of that.

Another thing that I agree completely with is his method against the tailed beasts. While I don't feel that they are at fault for doing anything, I would blame humanity for it. Later down the road, it is 100% guaranteed that someone will seek out their powers. He would probably come prepared to capture it and just like that the entire world would be in an enormously dire situation.

That can never be avoided. They are immortal respawning beasts and its possible to use summoning on them (Thus there is the possibility of people developing a ST jutsu get them down to earth, necessity is the mother of invention after all) .... They will always be there.

As for Sasuke wanting to kill the Gokage, I don't agree with it but I understand it. In his eyes (which in reality it's true) the Kage are the ones who created this situation. Most of them had utilized Akatsuki for selfish desires (besides Hidden Cloud) and others had people doing terribly shady things (Like ROOT which tried fueling the fire of war against the Hidden Stone and had Itachi wipe out the Uchiha clan). In short, he doesn't trust the Kage at all.

Sasuke himself did fair few shady things and was willing to commit even worse until a while ago. Should we believe in the power of chance or hold suspicions abt that?

 

[NSUNSR]

If Sasuke kills the Kages then everyone will hate him, so Sasuke will need to trap the whole alliance into genjutsu, so it's basically just like IT.

 

[Raxido]

But killing The Five Will just cause more trouble

Someone Is going to avenge the Kages and Start another revolution

and Sasuke Will just kill them then the people will see that sasuke is a tyrant And finally a big Revolution.

Then A massacre Will happen.

Sasuke's Revolution will just make more trouble.

Exactly what i was thinking, then what? Hes gonna kill those who rebelled against him, basically making him a hypocrite... Theres really no way to secure the future for peace... the way the kages plan it will always be the right way. But when i say their ways i dont mean to include the obvious mistakes they could of avoided. For example Danzo. If you cant possibly understand then you're not mature enough to understand the world.

 

[xxxLegacy]

The funniest thing is that this emo thinks he could be there leader or Kage of all human Lol what a naiv moron.....
He does not care about anyone in the world and everyone know that...
He would be worse then Kaguya in this point, cuz she was not evil at the begin

Look everything that he thinks to know about the "Shinbo system" ( what he actually does not) is irrelevant now, cuz all the past Hokage could tell him only there own experiences about the "Shinobi world" .....but there was never a Shinobi Alliance.
They are all friends now, especially the Kage....

Sasuke is so blind that he can't even see this simple fact, a smart guy would carefully listen to the last words of someone like Madara who knows more then anybody about it, but no even after that he acts like a b1tch....

He wanna change something ?
Why the hell did he not first listen to the Kage and Naruto, how they wanna bring peace to the World ?
Nope he does not care about it, he just wants to kill innocent people like Gaara and Tsunade. . cuz he is still stupid Lol

 

[Ageha Jaeger]

At this point revolution is pointless and absurd
Naruto is the guidian of the bijuu's, what could possibly go wrong not to mention all the five great nations are allies now
The aka taiko are gone,unless u expect random fodders to capture bijuu's lmao

I see a few people in here have some sense.

 

[WalksInShadows]

it's ironic that you say MT only avoids the issue, but it solves everything completely(excluding the Zetsu transformation and stripping of free will) because every last person from the top to the bottom won't be doing anything to cause trouble, but Sasuke's way doesn't solve achieve anything in the least other than 5 village leaders being killed execution style. What makes it even more stupid is that the Kage aren't even at the very top of the totem pole of the system and can basically be replaced. That's something Sasuke and proponents of his "plan" fails to take into account, not to mention all that will come of it is him by the target of everyone's ire.

Who gives a monkey's left nut who Sasuke trusts? He's given every last person around him reason enough not to trust him...ever. He's just mad that Naruto has become the doted figure of the world and not him, that's what this is really about.

I agree with Sasuke, it's time someone attempts to make a change.

like multiple antagonists in the story didn't already make any attempts at changing the world their way :vincent:

 

[nightwolf888]

killing the kage? how is Gara and tsunde at faught for the past of the hokagethey only recently to those postions , infact tsunde has has been really tolerent of Sasuke and his crimes and looking the other way

 

[legarcon]

The funny thing about sasuke is that he´s doing exactly what danzo and the hidden leaf did to him and the uchiha, the hidden leaf got rid of the minority(e.g. the uchiha) for the sake of the most(e.g. the leaf) and he wants to get rid of the minority(e.g. the tail beasts which by the way are the victims of this war and the kages that are partly to blame) for the sake of the most(e.g. the world), he´s just pulling a danzo in my eyes, just pretended to be good until the right moment came to then betray team 7.

Sorry but i see that certain irony in what he´s doing and what others did to him, using the same shady and questionable methods that screwed his life up and made him seek revenge desperately , that´s why i don´t see this so called revolution of his.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Sasuke could've gone about it differently imo.

 

[chaos control]

Now I shall tell you why I disagree with you OP.

1. Infinite tsukuyomi actually fixes the problems of the world. You may call it avoiding the problem or running away from it, but answer this question for me: If war and hatred and all other malice, cease to exist, then did it not solve the problem? I am sorry if I sound rude when I say this and I will try to say this next thing politely as I can, but:

Those people who say infinite tsukuyomi is running away from a problem actually really piss me off !! How is a dream world that you actually experience and that keeps you alive (so that you don't have to worry about dying from starvation or sickness or anything like that) any different from peace in the real world?! Actually, infinite tsukuyomi is even better because it would grant immortality as well as creating peace (if it weren't for that stupid white zetsu thing).

If America is sleeping and Russia is sleeping, then neither country can go to war! It solves the problem of war! How can you dare say that it doesn't?

Bottom line: If war and conflict are gone, then they are gone! Period!

2. You say that people don't like Sasuke's method because it is extreme. Was the infinite tsukuyomi not extreme? It started a whole freaking world war! Yet I and a lot of other people love the infinite tsukuyomi! Therefore it is not just hating on extremism.

3. I am sorry, but I utterly hate your stance on the bijuus! For one, the bijuus aren't the only sources of power that shinobi fight over! Remember the Hyuuga affair, the event that ultimately killed Neji's dad? That was due to conflict over the byakugan! Remember the Utakata filler arc? The conflict there was because of that powerful forbidden jutsu that could destroy entire villages!

Do you see where I am going with this? Sasuke's logic is stupid! If he is going to take the approach of eliminating sources of power that the villages fight over, he needs to target chakara as a whole (because even without the bijuu there will still be forbidden jutsus, coveted kekkei genkais and secret scrolls to be fought over)!

Yet this fool Sasuke is only going after the bijuus, 9 innocent creatures with actual lives! Killing them would solve nothing because of the presence of all of the other sources of power that I mentioned!

Do you know what would eliminate all of the sources while at the same time keeping everyone alive? I'll tell you what!

The infinite tsukuyomi would take care of that (ignoring the white zetsu thing)! The genjutsu would get rid of all the chakara, create peace and keep everyone alive!

But does Sasuke choose to support that? No! Instead he chooses actual murder of innocent beings whose demise solves nothing!

3. Your stance on the Kages is just terrible!!! You say the Kages are responsible for the state of the world, but check this out:

Gaara wasn't even born for the previous wars!
Mei and Tsunade were not Kages and had no say in the previous wars!

Onoki and Ay are logically the only ones that can receive some blame. As for the rest of the Kages throughout history, they are all dead already anyway!

Therefore, killing the Kages now would just be murder! Nothing less! It would also accomplish nothing! In fact, this generation of Kages is the first one to actually join forces! The sand and the leaf even have a pact together!

You say that they have used akautski, but that was their dead predecessors! Gaara hasn't used akautski! In fact he was killed once before by them! Konoha has actively worked to wipe out members of akautski. Kumo hasn't used akautski!

Also, Danzou is dead!

Conclusion: Sasuke makes no sense and yes I am sorry to sound mad, but just thinking about this crap does anger me a little!

 

[Zlatán]

I agree with Sasuke's plan but i don't think he meant literally kill the kages, MP and MS have different translations, so i guess we have to wait for viz but besides that i totally agree, its more realistic and ideal

 

[Ultimateone]

there are problems with his thinking though. the current kages, besides onoki, aren't really the problem. as a matter of fact, all the current kage's have come to piece turms basically. killing them now would only undermine everything that has happened. also, the bijuu cannot be killed. not only that, but the bijuu have done nothing that would warrant their death. people are to blame for what has happened in the naruto verse. the bijuu are simply victims in their power struggle. considering how many wars there has been, the bijuu have been used in very little of their conflicts. even when they are in jins, the jins are usually very protected and can't even control their powers effectively. wanting change is not really the problem with his idea, but he doesn't know change has already begun. his way of just killing people who would appose him, is just not the answer. he would never be an effective leader. he would actually make it worst in my opinion.