Why has Naruto lost or had help in all his fights?

[TobisPawn]

Doesn't matter, he still beats Sasuke.

/thread

 

[saw2097]

Because Naruto fights real ninja with god like powers while Sasuke only fights guys who are at most mid kage level.

Naruto is practically batteling against a god at the moment.

 

[Champ]

Oh my good im just tearing up after UchihaMadara01's response.

On a side note, you and Dante need to stop these threads already! I mean it's has become a war in this base because of unorthodox's thread.

This is fun fly

I don't complain about that, but the fact remain that Naruto still rapes Sasuke low difficulty and you are mad because of that

Im not mad. I already said Kakashi lost his man hood to a 17 year old kid.

 

[Bogard]

Im not mad. I already said Kakashi lost his man hood to a 17 year old kid.

Proof that your mad since because you can't contradict the fact that Naruto beats Sasuke low difficulty you try to bring someone else(Kakashi) in the discussion. Like i've said, i don't complain in Kakashi losing to a 17 yo or whatever you say, i'm not mad even if you think he loses to Konohamaru, but you are mad because you can't accept the fact Sasuke is a fodder to Naruto

 

[NagatoAme]

This thread is absolutely pointless in how thoughtless and overseeing it is, in every series with a main character, in every individual's life, if you were to look upon their record of battles, there would be a great deal of them won by chance, luck, advantage, aid, or many other common factors that turn tides in battle. Simply because he is the main character and therefore the center of viewpoint and receives the most attention, is why we are able to name off more of his circumstances in every situation he has been in, every moment he has shared with other characters, his reflections and how they evolved throughout the series, and in this case battles he has fought. If the show was entitled and directed to another character with the same, or similar form of lifestyle, design, and plot, we would be able to repeat this with ease. This thread is nothing more than an attempt to justify and spark emotions where one feels unsettled because of tarnished admiration.

Naruto won his fight against Mizuki, who is Chunin at the least, as an academy student with one jutsu and after he had been training for some time to perfect it.

Naruto managed to push Pain farther to its limit than it has ever been from anyone else, that includes other Jinchuuriki and far more skilled ninja, one(including myself) may argue Pain had already expelled an unbelievable amount of chakra, however even in that it is amazingly a feat regardless of the help he received.

Naruto defeated Kiba in his own state of exhaustion during the Chunin exams, that includes the Five Pronged Seal layered over his tetragram sealing to suppress the nine tails chakra entirely, meaning he had no help from it there.

If one is truly going to argue that Naruto had help from Kurama and Gamabunta to defeat Gaara, than I see it as completely vary to offer the counterpoint of Gaara having help from the Shukaku in its near full form.

Another argument would be the the idea within the plot expressed by jiraiya that Naruto's seal is setup so that Kyuubi's chakra would leak and mix with his own, meaning it was to be a natural part of him and his chakra.

 

[Champ]

Doesn't matter, he still beats Sasuke.

/thread

Didn't Minato already owned Obito

Proof that your mad since because you can't contradict the fact that Naruto beats Sasuke low difficulty you try to bring someone else(Kakashi) in the discussion. Like i've said, i don't complain in Kakashi losing to a 17 yo or whatever you say, i'm not mad even if you think he loses to Konohamaru, but you are mad because you can't accept the fact Sasuke is a fodder to Naruto

When have I ever put Sasuke above Naruto in a top 10 thread? Kakashi didn't lose to Konohamaru, he lost his man hood to a 17 year old kid.

This thread is absolutely pointless in how thoughtless and overseeing it is, in every series with a main character, in every individual's life, if you were to look upon their record of battles, there would be a great deal of them won by chance, luck, advantage, aid, or many other common factors that turn tides in battle. Simply because he is the main character and therefore the center of viewpoint and receives the most attention, is why we are able to name off more of his circumstances in every situation he has been in, every moment he has shared with other characters, his reflections and how they evolved throughout the series, and in this case battles he has fought. If the show was entitled and directed to another character with the same, or similar form of lifestyle, design, and plot, we would be able to repeat this with ease. This thread is nothing more than an attempt to justify and spark emotions where one feels unsettled because of tarnished admiration.

Naruto won his fight against Mizuki, who is Chunin at the least, as an academy student with one jutsu and after he had been training for some time to perfect it.

Naruto managed to push Pain farther to its limit than it has ever been from anyone else, that includes other Jinchuuriki and far more skilled ninja, one(including myself) may argue Pain had already expelled an unbelievable amount of chakra, however even in that it is amazingly a feat regardless of the help he received.

Naruto defeated Kiba in his own state of exhaustion during the Chunin exams, that includes the Five Pronged Seal layered over his tetragram sealing to suppress the nine tails chakra entirely, meaning he had no help from it there.

If one is truly going to argue that Naruto had help from Kurama and Gamabunta to defeat Gaara, than I see it as completely vary to offer the counterpoint of Gaara having help from the Shukaku in its near full form.

Another argument would be the the idea within the plot expressed by jiraiya that Naruto's seal is setup so that Kyuubi's chakra would leak and mix with his own, meaning it was to be a natural part of him and his chakra.

I thought this was a good to

 

[Bogard]

When have I ever put Sasuke above Naruto in a top 10 thread? Kakashi didn't lose to Konohamaru, he lost his man hood to a 17 year old kid.

Nice to know. Still doesn't change the fact that this thread is meaningless since Naruto still stomps Sasuke low diff

 

[Champ]

Nice to know. Still doesn't change the fact that this thread is meaningless since Naruto still stomps Sasuke low diff

Yea and they both own Kakashi with low difficulty

 

[Bogard]

Yea and they both own Kakashi with low difficulty

Ok, if you already admit that Naruto stomps him low diff and that your thread is meaningless i'm fine with it

 

[Champ]

Ok, if you already admit that Naruto stomps him low diff and that your thread is meaningless i'm fine with it

If you're fine with him losin his man hood to a 17 year old kid, then so am I

 

[Bogard]

If you're fine with him losin his man hood to a 17 year old kid, then so am I

Ok then lets say i'm fine then. I already got the answer i wanted anyway

 

[Champ]

Ok then lets say i'm fine then. I already got the answer i wanted anyway

Np

 

[MickNerks]

Sasuke has needed the most help of anyone.. Or have you forgotten about this??

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This was the most humiliating moment of sasuke's life.lmao

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[Champ]

Kurama saving Naruto

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[Xlad]

I have no idea where this whole damn sshit is leading to. First of all, those who said Naruto still solos Sasuke, get it over your heads that Sasuke hasn't shown his full abilities, we can't be too sure about that. They both will equal out when they see each other. Don't keep saying that because it may not be how you think it turns out.
As for those who said Kurama saves Naruto all the time, it seems as though your are trying to downplay what Naruto has done or accomplished. He is A Jinchuriki; there are several more of those type of shinobis like Naruto. Every character gets their asses saved, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

What is it so difficult about accepting they are both top-tier ninjas? Because not everyone can do what they do. I am trying to be as unbiased as I am. U_U