Why has Naruto lost and had help in all his fights?

[lucario14]

he cant be SM naruto either naruto is physically way stronger than sasuke he could summon 3 giant toads that will give sasuke a hard time he has pretty good speed displayed when he saved tsunade from one of the pains. he can also use attacks that sasuke cannot see like frog kumite and the other moves that would have worked against pain if the werent visually linked also rasenshuriken goes right thru that susanoo of sasukes lol mei even melted it with her breath lol that stands no chance against a giant rasengan so no sasuke does not beat SM naruto

Wrong section to discuss this but Sasuke has sharingan which allowed him to chidori raikage, so naruto's speed won't be an issue.

Susano'o tanked raikage's taijutsu, gaara, temari, kankuro and darui's attacks. Also sasuke's blaze release beats naruto's wind release. Did you see how slow the frs was? Sasuke doesn't need to block it he could dodge without too much trouble and sasuke also has a hawk summon. Don't forget susanoo can be used offensively as well so overall sasuke has this med-high diff

 

[UCE]

he cant predict well either look at what killer bee did to him with just taijutsu and im saying sasuke got fooled even tho he can predict movements like u say had karin who is a sensory type and two other ppl in juugo and suigetsu and still got tricked by killer bee he sucks dude him and his team

omg did you? first karin and suigetsu were out, second juugo does not have sensing abilities, 3 yes he got beat by a stronger and more experienced bee.

last point sasuke cut the tentacle how was he supposed to know that bee escape via that thing? the tentacle was already under water see you're not using logic only hater logic.

 

[lucario14]

If he had killed him there how would he had extract the Bijuu :|? think dude how would Naruto have meet Minato without that battle?

Sort of like how they took in the other Jinchuuriki. I agree if kurama had not rampaged he wouldn't met minato but this also prevented him from capture. Point is sm naruto loses to pain without intervention from kyuubi. I said this initially.

 

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Sort of like how they took in the other Jinchuuriki. I agree if kurama had not rampaged he wouldn't met minato but this also prevented him from capture. Point is sm naruto loses to pain without intervention from kyuubi. I said this initially.

All the other Jins were knocked out Gaara and Yuugito including if you kill a Jin the Bijuu will be revived later which they would have to find again.
Also with you point didn't MS Sasuke lose to both Mei and Onoki without intervention? so does that mean Mei beats MS Sasuke.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Wrong section to discuss this but Sasuke has sharingan which allowed him to chidori raikage, so naruto's speed won't be an issue.

Susano'o tanked raikage's taijutsu, gaara, temari, kankuro and darui's attacks. Also sasuke's blaze release beats naruto's wind release. Did you see how slow the frs was? Sasuke doesn't need to block it he could dodge without too much trouble and sasuke also has a hawk summon. Don't forget susanoo can be used offensively as well so overall sasuke has this med-high diff

omg guy really? sasuke never tanked gaara temari kankuro and daruis attacks lol. second raikage had sasuke coughing up blood and laying on the floor and was getting ready to step on him so no susanoo didnt tank anything. and one hawk summon against 3 toad summons? and i mentioned narutos speed to show how he can dodge amaretsu and if he gets close enough to sasuke and hits him with frog kumite sasuke will be laid out look at wat happened to the pain naruto did hit with it. if tsunade could break madaras susanoo while he was using rinnegan(not PS) naruto in SM breaks MS sasukes susanoo to easily

 

[Liquid Snake]

omg did you? first karin and suigetsu were out, second juugo does not have sensing abilities, 3 yes he got beat by a stronger and more experienced bee.

last point sasuke cut the tentacle how was he supposed to know that bee escape via that thing? the tentacle was already under water see you're not using logic only hater logic.

never said juugo had sensing abilities i said karin did juugo and suigetsu have eyes tho and sasuke is a genius right? so how did sumthing like that fool him? and so what if sasuke cut the tentacle he still didnt realize he used amaretsu on a clone but i thought he could see thru clones like he did when he fought naruto

 

[Meee]

That's just how Naruto is, This series has always been going on about that friendship/teamwork nonsense.

 

[lucario14]

All the other Jins were knocked out Gaara and Yuugito including if you kill a Jin the Bijuu will be revived later which they would have to find again.
Also with you point didn't MS Sasuke lose to both Mei and Onoki without intervention? so does that mean Mei beats MS Sasuke.

Yes he would've lost onoki without intervention and mei might have killed him too. If you feel so strongly about this why don't you make the Sasuke can't defeat enemies without help thread.

Once again I'm not saying pain would kill naruto. I'm saying pain wouldn't have been able to kill naruto coz of Kurama and that without kurama pain would beat naruto. I'm agreeing with the op what's your angle?

 

[lelerskates]

Obvious character bash thread. Have fun being banned.

 

[UCE]

never said juugo had sensing abilities i said karin did juugo and suigetsu have eyes tho and sasuke is a genius right? So how did sumthing like that fool him? And so what if sasuke cut the tentacle he still didnt realize he used amaretsu on a clone but i thought he could see thru clones like he did when he fought naruto

you solo the you're own sentence.

Karin was out.

 

[TrollKing]

Mangfact: naruto is no solo king. Naruto fans can't change that no matter how hard they try

 

[nightwolf888]

this most stuid arguement ever , Kishi made Naruto's power source to be through Kurama while Sasuke powersource was ment to come through his sharigan. these powers are ment to be complete opposite but equal in the end thats how Kishi wrote the story if you don't like it go and read a diffent or make your manga the you want

 

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Yes he would've lost onoki without intervention and mei might have killed him too. If you feel so strongly about this why don't you make the Sasuke can't defeat enemies without help thread.

Once again I'm not saying pain would kill naruto. I'm saying pain wouldn't have been able to kill naruto coz of Kurama and that without kurama pain would beat naruto. I'm agreeing with the op what's your angle?

Actually i don't and i don't make shitty threads like that nor did i even address what the OP was going on about.
I replied to you about SM Naruto can't beat pain which is crap, as i pointed out that Naruto had the chances to kill both but if he did he wouldn't have meet Minato , and found Nagato.

 

[Ashura San]

Because he is Ashura's reincarnation.
Plain and simple

 

[lucario14]

omg guy really? sasuke never tanked gaara temari kankuro and daruis attacks lol. second raikage had sasuke coughing up blood and laying on the floor and was getting ready to step on him so no susanoo didnt tank anything. and one hawk summon against 3 toad summons? and i mentioned narutos speed to show how he can dodge amaretsu and if he gets close enough to sasuke and hits him with frog kumite sasuke will be laid out look at wat happened to the pain naruto did hit with it. if tsunade could break madaras susanoo while he was using rinnegan(not PS) naruto in SM breaks MS sasukes susanoo to easily

Yea he was untouched after a sand barrage, laser circus, temari's wind move and kankuro's attached. Raikage can't tank susanoo only a part of it (ribcage). If sasuke brought out the whole thing like against danzo and Kakashi I highly doubt it. Only tsunade could coz she's stronger sm naruto is not as strong as tsunade.

Sasuke can increase his range with chidori variants Plus spam blaze release to surround his susanoo. Naruto is not getting anywhere near to use his frog kumite.

 

[lucario14]

Actually i don't and i don't make shitty threads like that nor did i even address what the OP was going on about.
I replied to you about SM Naruto can't beat pain which is crap, as i pointed out that Naruto had the chances to kill both but if he did he wouldn't have meet Minato , and found Nagato.

So you agree that if pain was trying to kill him and naruto did not have the handicap of just being captured (like kabuto), Naruto would have lost?

 

[NextGenNinja]

Naruto is fodder obv.

 

[slaton02]

Holy sh!t naruto sucks lol talk about overrated
Oh you forgot naruto was saved by dodai when the 3rd raikage was about to KO him

 

[Versatile jutsu]

Holy sh!t naruto sucks lol talk about overrated
Oh you forgot naruto was saved by dodai when the 3rd raikage was about to KO him

dodai saves bunshin.

 

[Yahcob13]

What is this saved by plot BS? HE IS THE PLOT!