Why has Naruto lost and had help in all his fights?

Reasons why Naruto is a bad character

  • Because Naruto always needs Kurama to help him

    Votes: 13 40.6%
  • Because plot always saves him

    Votes: 10 31.3%
  • Because he's dumb

    Votes: 9 28.1%

  • Total voters
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Sure, I'm pathetic while you stay up late at night and wank a minor character in a comic book. It's ok. I know you have nothing better to do. No one to spend your time with. No love to give anyone else. But please try and be less of an ass on the one website that try's to be sociable to your miserable existence.
Yes, you are. Why else would you spend your pathetic ass time replying with this half assed bs.

It's ok. When a Naruto wank thread is made, you can fap all over that when you get the chance. Lol
 

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same result you're statement is irrelevant and its very hard to understand WTF your saying so yeah don't post irrelevant thing's

i should put periods so u can understand. ok sasuke could have been replaced with any uchiha that could use susanoo just put juugo in there with them.also sasuke was only able to fight for so long without getting tired because he had kurama's chakra cloak on him. and also how do this genius who is so great in your eyes gets fooled by a tentacle lol thats just pathetic u have MS a sensory type and to more ppl and still get fooled. sasuke sucks
 

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Yes, you are. Why else would you spend your pathetic ass time replying with this half assed bs.

It's ok. When a Naruto wank thread is made, you can fap all over that when you get the chance. Lol

Just to annoy you. You make me laugh.
 

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he sense come from sage mode fool not KCM and he still beat pain no matter if kyuubi went on rampage MS sasuke doesnt have Kyuubi so how would he have countered planetary devestation? and it didnt even show if naruto could sense amaretsu or not but im pretty sure if nagato can he can too they are both very good at sensing and im glad u brought that up because thats another reason why nagato stomps sasuke he could sense when amaretsu was about to be used

I never said ms sasuke can beat Nagato, I'm saying ms sasuke can beat sm naruto.
 

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I understand you're butthurt from the op's fantastically presented thread but to say sm naruto beats ms sasuke ha what a joke. Sm naruto couldn't beat pain 8 tailed kyuubi had to bail him out. If sm naruto could sense amaterasu, why couldn't he sense amaterasu in kcm against itachi and Nagato? I thought his senses improve in kcm form.
Please don't embarassed yourself Naruto stomped 6 paths deva path included that was a plot battle in favour of pain and kurama.

-Naruto re-enters Sage mode had the chance to end deva path instead kicks him away - plot
-Naruto tackled Preta path had the chance to kill him instead choose to cover his eyes and wait - plot
-Naruto restricted to the Ground could have absorb Natural energy to enter Sage mode yet he didn't.
The point of the Arc was for Naruto to meet Minato.
 

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What do you expect from a fodder?

They always need some sort of help to catch up to the big dogs.
 

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no there you go again, tell me sage mode barely did shit vs madara susano you may dodge one enton but guess what? he can throw more and more and more like i said sage mode naruto from pain arc has a limit of usage, weak susano you say? thats something you can hear form a sasuke hater who's barely even using manga logic stay back in you're cave or better yet stay out of the thread because the way you are rolling is not loking good for you debate with logic not hater logic please.
he cant throw more and more entons it burns his eyes and he would exhaust all his chakra like he dd with the kages and sasuke did have a weak susanoo at that time and why are u comparing MS sasuke's susanoo with Madara's EMS susanoo that shows how much of a sasuke wanker u are u wish sasuke at that time compared to madara
 

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i should put periods so u can understand. ok sasuke could have been replaced with any uchiha that could use susanoo just put juugo in there with them.also sasuke was only able to fight for so long without getting tired because he had kurama's chakra cloak on him. and also how do this genius who is so great in your eyes gets fooled by a tentacle lol thats just pathetic u have MS a sensory type and to more ppl and still get fooled. sasuke sucks

Sasuke awakened his Mangekyō Sharingan after the death of his older brother, Itachi. The tomoe of Sasuke's Mangekyō spread and converge along the edge of its iris, taking on the appearance of three intersecting ellipses. Following the acquisition of his brother's eyes, Sasuke's Mangekyō pattern changed, gaining a symmetrical, more aligned rendition of Itachi's Mangekyō tomoe that is centred within Sasuke's own. According to Madara, the pattern of Sasuke's Mangekyō is known as the "Straight Tomoe" (直巴, Choku Tomoe), which gives Sasuke an even higher capability of reading his opponents movements.

do you think sasuke's ms have sensing abillites? in fact no ms has that it can predict not sense.
 

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he cant throw more and more entons it burns his eyes and he would exhaust all his chakra like he dd with the kages and sasuke did have a weak susanoo at that time and why are u comparing MS sasuke's susanoo with Madara's EMS susanoo that shows how much of a sasuke wanker u are u wish sasuke at that time compared to madara

ok then lets turn the best offence into defense read.

When Sasuke gained the Mangekyō Sharingan, he manifested Amaterasu. He developed it into an advanced form known as the Blaze Release. Aside from unleashing a wave of unquenchable black flames that incinerates everything that reflects in his eyesight, Sasuke can control the movement of the flames into surrounding him and creating spikes to protect himself. As such, he was regarded as more skilled with it than Itachi, When he gained his Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan, his Blaze Release greatly improved. He could combine Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi with Susanoo to create Amaterasu swords and arrows that can pierce through heavy defences and ignite them,and create a barrage of Amaterasu magatama to handle multiple enemies. Sasuke could also use his Kagutsuchi without using Susanoo for more direct usage.

even with a simple ms not ems he can still control the flames not like ems of course but he can still use them as a shiled simple.
 
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I never said ms sasuke can beat Nagato, I'm saying ms sasuke can beat sm naruto.

he cant be SM naruto either naruto is physically way stronger than sasuke he could summon 3 giant toads that will give sasuke a hard time he has pretty good speed displayed when he saved tsunade from one of the pains. he can also use attacks that sasuke cannot see like frog kumite and the other moves that would have worked against pain if the werent visually linked also rasenshuriken goes right thru that susanoo of sasukes lol mei even melted it with her breath lol that stands no chance against a giant rasengan so no sasuke does not beat SM naruto
 

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Please don't embarassed yourself Naruto stomped 6 paths deva path included that was a plot battle in favour of pain and kurama.

-Naruto re-enters Sage mode had the chance to end deva path instead kicks him away - plot
-Naruto tackled Preta path had the chance to kill him instead choose to cover his eyes and wait - plot
-Naruto restricted to the Ground could have absorb Natural energy to enter Sage mode yet he didn't.
The point of the Arc was for Naruto to meet Minato.
Was it plot for pain to not kill naruto when he was on the ground with bound by chakra rods?
Please don't use the excuse that is was fo plots sake otherwise many things could have happened that didn't and we would have no series. Naruto and sasuke would have been dead a long time ago.
 

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ok then lets turn the best offence into defense read.

When Sasuke gained the Mangekyō Sharingan, he manifested Amaterasu. He developed it into an advanced form known as the Blaze Release. Aside from unleashing a wave of unquenchable black flames that incinerates everything that reflects in his eyesight, Sasuke can control the movement of the flames into surrounding him and creating spikes to protect himself. As such, he was regarded as more skilled with it than Itachi, When he gained his Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan, his Blaze Release greatly improved. He could combine Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi with Susanoo to create Amaterasu swords and arrows that can pierce through heavy defences and ignite them,and create a barrage of Amaterasu magatama to handle multiple enemies. Sasuke could also use his Kagutsuchi without using Susanoo for more direct usage.
yea right thats why he was thrown around like a doll by the kages and got his susanoo melted by meis breath and lets not mention oonohki wasnt even serious lol but naruto throws a rasenshuriken when sasuke puts amaretsu over susanoo dnt tell me ur gonna say amaretsu blocks that lol
 

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Was it plot for pain to not kill naruto when he was on the ground with bound by chakra rods?
Please don't use the excuse that is was fo plots sake otherwise many things could have happened that didn't and we would have no series. Naruto and sasuke would have been dead a long time ago.
If he had killed him there how would he had extract the Bijuu :|? think dude how would Naruto have meet Minato without that battle?
 

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Was it plot for pain to not kill naruto when he was on the ground with bound by chakra rods?
Please don't use the excuse that is was fo plots sake otherwise many things could have happened that didn't and we would have no series. Naruto and sasuke would have been dead a long time ago.

of course it was plot for pain not to kill naruto then LMAO that should have been obvious
 

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yea right thats why he was thrown around like a doll by the kages and got his susanoo melted by meis breath and lets not mention oonohki wasnt even serious lol but naruto throws a rasenshuriken when sasuke puts amaretsu over susanoo dnt tell me ur gonna say amaretsu blocks that lol

*FACE PALM* are you really that? listen the thing that you saw melt was not a full susano coming its was a rib cage of course it can melt. just what are you?
 

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Sasuke awakened his Mangekyō Sharingan after the death of his older brother, Itachi. The tomoe of Sasuke's Mangekyō spread and converge along the edge of its iris, taking on the appearance of three intersecting ellipses. Following the acquisition of his brother's eyes, Sasuke's Mangekyō pattern changed, gaining a symmetrical, more aligned rendition of Itachi's Mangekyō tomoe that is centred within Sasuke's own. According to Madara, the pattern of Sasuke's Mangekyō is known as the "Straight Tomoe" (直巴, Choku Tomoe), which gives Sasuke an even higher capability of reading his opponents movements.

do you think sasuke's ms have sensing abillites? in fact no ms has that it can predict not sense.
he cant predict well either look at what killer bee did to him with just taijutsu and im saying sasuke got fooled even tho he can predict movements like u say had karin who is a sensory type and two other ppl in juugo and suigetsu and still got tricked by killer bee he sucks dude him and his team
 

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*FACE PALM* are you really that? listen the thing that you saw melt was not a full susano coming its was a rib cage of course it can melt. just what are you?

of course it wasnt a full susanoo fool he only had MS im not saying mei melts EMS susanoo or sasukes current susanoo
 

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I have yet to see.a unbiased person agree to everything said here so I will interject. First of all, sasuke never killed any of his target opponents so that he approached with intent to kill. Secondly, ms sasuke, cannot defeat sm naruto. Thirdly, the moment naruto seized the kyubi chakra,it became his. Fourthly, sasuke always got his power handed to him(chidori not included) And lastly main character show is about will always be > than his rival, equal.

Nardo and sasugay fanboys, stop sitting on a fake persons pen!s and get on with life
 
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Thanks for all the plus rep, most I've ever gotten from one thread. Good to see people don't deny manga facts.
Sad you'll lose it when it gets closed.

OT: Nothing to really say here. It's all facts. U_U
I will point out that Naruto is the main character; essentially all of the things that happened always lead up to something greater. Every time Kurama saved him, that helped Naruto become 1 step close to becoming a perfect jin. Not to mention Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura, the man who believed in teamwork and working together to accomplish a single task.

It's also 100% guaranteed you could find some outside source of help in every single one of Sasuke's. I'll let the butthurt's make that list tho.
 
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