Why Gaara >>> Kakashi !!!!!!

MickNerks · Oct 2, 2012

The point of this thread is to PROVE that Gaara is superior to Kakashi. I will Provide facts and Evidence to support my claim. Please read thru and don't just comment your own fanboy opinion. Thanks and Enjoy.:ice:

Kakashi

1. Lightning Nature

Ok let me make something clear, Lightining is NOT the WEAKNESS OF SAND.

When we look at Chidori vs Gaara's sand all it could do is pierce it, which makes sense because chidori is a piercing attack.

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But once it pierced chidori it wasnt able to do anything else. The Sand didnt crumble nor did it begin to fall apart. Even after struck with chidori gaara sand was able to begin to crush sasuke's arm.

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So let this be proof that though lightining may be able to pierce sand, it does not have the ability to make sand useless. Such as the Mizukage's Oil.

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IMO kakashi's strongest lightning tech is his Lightning Beast Running Technique

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Which I think wont be able to get passed a sand defense that gaara places up becuase raikages lightnining attack wasnt able to get through gaara's sand.

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2. Kamui

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Kakashi's powerful mangekyou sharingan technique will not be helpful to kakashi against gaara, and this is why.
Kakashi has to focus on a target in order to use Kumui properly. But in a fight against a long range fighter such as gaara, it would be near impossible for kakashi to focus on gaara, because gaara's sand is so relentless. Gaara's sand will constantly be on the attack, so kakashi wont get the chance to stop for a moment a target gaara.

3. Fire, Earth, Water Techniques

Fire

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Earth
Kakashi trying to go underground would not be smart on his part because of gaara's desert requiem. Kakashi would be crushed. Also any other ground tech would be affective because gaara can fly.

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Water
Water doesnt stop gaara's sand. It only makes it heavier.

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Gaara

1. Sand ability

- Gaara can fly
Which gives him an adavantage over kakashi and allows hit to vicously continue an assult on kakashi without kakashi being able to retaliate.

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- Gaara can change the landscape
Gaara has to ability to summon large amount of sand that can change to very landscape of the battlefield. There is no limit to the amount of sand gaara can create.

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- Gaara has HUGE chakra reserves
which is proven during the war arc. Gaara has fought 4 past kages while using grand scale attacks, create enough sand to help block a meteor, and still had enough chakra to battle Madara and hold his own and protect the others for a while.

- Absolute Defense

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- Quick and Relentless attacking
Gaara doesnt have to move nor produce handsigns in order for his sand to attack you. His sand is controlled by his willpower.

2. Large scale sand attacks

Its almost impossible to escape gaara's sand because of the large scale techniques he is able to produce. For instance his Sand hail which causes sand to be rained from the sky and quickly covers the field:

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Also Dessert Avalanch is another example:

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From what i just demonstrated of both gaara and kakashi's power, it is clear gaara has a advantage over Kakashi Hatake.

It will only take a dessert avalache or a sand hail to cover the field in sand. Once the field is covered kakashi is done. If he steps on sand his foot is crushed. If he tries to hide underground he is crushed by dessert requiem.

And it will be near impossible for kakashi to kamui gaara becasue he wont be able to focus on a airborne or grounded gaara with all the sand attack coming his way.

But im eager to see what you all think. Ill also place a poll up.

Katkot · Oct 2, 2012

Kakashi is strong ... Donnot try to bashing him

MickNerks · Oct 2, 2012

Katkot said:
Kakashi is strong ... Donnot try to bashing him

Im not bashing him. I didnt say he was weak, he just not stronger than gaara.

1v1 · Oct 2, 2012

I never understood the appeal of these threads. It's all mental masturbation.

KGB Kakuzu · Oct 2, 2012

I agree Gaara's defense is too great. Yes Raikiri is able to pierce the sand, but Gaara isn't going to just stand there against Kakashi like he dis for Sasuke. Also Gaara can make a desert by crushing rocks like he did in the Kimmimaru fight. He can also use sand to block the affects of Kamui.

Overall I say 80%-20% in favor of Gaara.

3MESSIAH · Oct 2, 2012

if kakashi starts off with kamui in the very begginning,gaara is a goner.but kakashi usually uses it as a last resort.....still i am betting on kamui

kakashi isboss · Oct 2, 2012

read title lol now i should read the post so i can pick it apart and destroy it

Narutohokage7 · Oct 2, 2012

Kakashi doesn't have fire style lol

MickNerks · Oct 2, 2012

3MESSIAH said:
if kakashi starts off with kamui in the very begginning,gaara is a goner.but kakashi usually uses it as a last resort.....still i am betting on kamui

even if kakashi tries to use it in the begining it still wont help him, because gaara's sand will be on the attack from the beginning. Kakashi wont have a moments rest to lock on to gaara.

yuan of cruxis · Oct 2, 2012

KGB Kakuzu said:
I agree Gaara's defense is too great. Yes Raikiri is able to pierce the sand, but Gaara isn't going to just stand there against Kakashi like he dis for Sasuke. Also Gaara can make a desert by crushing rocks like he did in the Kimmimaru fight. He can also use sand to block the affects of Kamui.

Overall I say 80%-20% in favor of Gaara.

If you factor in Kakashi's intelligence and all of his moves its more like 65%-35% in favor of Gaara
You can't count Kakashi out that easily.

MickNerks · Oct 2, 2012

kakashi isboss said:
read title lol now i should read the post so i can pick it apart and destroy it

Looking foward to it.

Narutohokage7 said:
Kakashi doesn't have fire style lol

Wikai said he used it in the anime. I just gave it to him so no-one would complain. Not that fire style would help his chances.

theRPGdude · Oct 2, 2012

I thought they were friends? Why would they fight?

Narutohokage7 · Oct 2, 2012

MickNerks said:
Looking foward to it.

Wikai said he used it in the anime. I just gave it to him so no-one would complain. Not that fire style would help his chances.

Well it isn't in the manga. I am not saying you're wrong, I have no idea who would win in this battle, remember however Kakashi is smarter than Gaara and is pretty darn fast.

Razen · Oct 2, 2012

If that was true gaara would be well and fighting madara with the rest of the kages while kakashi would be near death along with guy naruto and bee while fighting obito six paths of pain and the 7 tailed beast. But that's not what happened right?

kakashi isboss · Oct 2, 2012

ok where to beagin while kakashis rakiri is greater than chidori and when sauske fought gara that was his first lightling tech so its far to say it was weaker than it is now. kakashi can foucos in a short amount of time as he kamuied a moving KM naruto clone which is preaty fast to say the least. if water techs make the sand heavey then if he hits his sand with a large amount of water techs than the sand would lose a lot of speed. kakashi deosnt know fire techs so it deosnt matter if there in effective. if kakashi hide himself underground without him knowing and he was useing a clone to distract him he could still use that to launch a sneak attack.

Bogard · Oct 2, 2012

First of all, Sasukes chidori<<<<<Kakashis raikiri. In fact it's said that Kakashis raikiri can cut everything. Sasukes chidori was able to cut through Gaaras defense and that was in part1. Kakashis raikiri will simply demolish it. Even at a young age, it was able to go through multiple obstacles with ease(look at the middle of my second pic, it destroys it with ease):

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Again during the fight against Obito, a Raikiri-kunai was enough to be able to cut through multiple boulders with relativ ease:

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Kimimaro with his power alone was able to go through Gaaras defense:

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So Kakashis raikiri or other variants like raiden will be able to go through his defense without too much problems. I don't see what he could do to defend himself in this case. Just look:

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Raiden was able to cut through multiple V2 tails like it was nothing, something that not even Orochimarus Kusanagi could hurt:

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Kakashis Raikiri is simply one of the most if not the most powerful piercing jutsu in the manga, so i don't think Gaaras defense could handle all these variants. Even Raikage acknowledge its piercing power(able to go through even his lightning defense):

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And Sasukes version is even weaker than Kakashis version

You compare Raikiri to Raikages kick, but they are not comparable. Raikages attack is not a piercing ability. He was just kicking the sand to do damages. It doesn't work like Raikiri that pierce through things. It's not the same things

And that's when i only talk about lightning abilities. Kakashi also has powerful suiton jutsus:

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You say that suiton only makes sand harder, but that's the goal. When the sand is harder, it turns to mud, and Gaara has much more difficulties to control it. In an extent, he can't even control it anymore because of that

He also has the perfect ability to catch Gaaras off-guard by attacking him quickly from underground. Gaara is a static fighter only fighting with his sand, so he could be surprised by this:

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Notice how quickly Kakashi not only managed to avoid Itachis katon by going underground, but also use the Kage Bunshin technique and send his clone to attack Itachi who was almost caught off-guard, Itachi who has much more better reaction feats than Gaara

You say Gaara could fly which is true, but flying will make his attacks easier to be dodge, cuz Gaara needs to be on the ground to actually take advantage of the environment and release his attacks. Furthermore, flying only increase the chance to be targeting by Kamui. Kamui is in fact better in long range attacks. Flying out of Kakashis range makes it easier since he has no pressure in this moment and could finish him off like he wanted to do to Deidara

Kakashi in the contrary has all what it takes to beat Gaara. With suiton attacks, Raikiri to pierce through all his defenses, doton to catch Gaaras from underground, Kamui to snipe and finish him, he is not losing this

Narutohokage7 · Oct 2, 2012

Bogard said:
First of all, Sasukes chidori<<<<<Kakashis raikiri. In fact it's said that Kakashis raikiri can cut everything. Sasukes chidori was able to cut through Gaaras defense and that was in part1. Kakashis raikiri will simply demolish it. Even at a young age, it was able to go through multiple obstacles with ease(look at the middle of my second pic, it destroys it with ease):

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Again during the fight against Obito, a Raikiri-kunai was enough to be able to cut through multiple boulders with relativ ease:
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Kimimaro with his power alone was able to go through Gaaras defense:

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So Kakashis raikiri or other variants like raiden will be able to go through his defense without too much problems. I don't see what he could do to defend himself in this case. Just look:

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Raiden was able to cut through multiple V2 tails like it was nothing, something that not even Orochimarus Kusanagi could hurt:

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Kakashis Raikiri is simply one of the most if not the most powerful piercing jutsu in the manga, so i don't think Gaaras defense could handle all these variants. Even Raikage acknowledge its piercing power(able to go through even his lightning defense):

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And Sasukes version is even weaker than Kakashis version

You compare Raikiri to Raikages kick, but they are not comparable. Raikages attack is not a piercing ability. He was just kicking the sand to do damages. It doesn't work like Raikiri that pierce through things. It's not the same things

And that's when i only talk about lightning abilities. Kakashi also has powerful suiton jutsus:

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You say that suiton only makes sand harder, but that's the goal. When the sand is harder, it turns to mud, and Gaara has much more difficulties to control it. In an extent, he can't even control it anymore because of that

He also has the perfect ability to catch Gaaras off-guard by attacking him quickly from underground. Gaara is a static fighter only fighting with his sand, so he could be surprised by this:

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Notice how quickly Kakashi not only managed to avoid Itachis katon by going underground, but also use the Kage Bunshin technique and send his clone to attack Itachi who was almost caught off-guard, Itachi who has much more better reaction feats than Gaara

You say Gaara could fly which is true, but flying will make his attacks easier to be dodge, cuz Gaara needs to be on the ground to actually take advantage of the environment and release his attacks. Furthermore, flying only increase the chance to be targeting by Kamui. Kamui is in fact better in long range attacks. Flying out of Kakashis range makes it easier since he has no pressure in this moment and could finish him off like he wanted to do to Deidara

Kakashi in the contrary has all what it takes to beat Gaara. With suiton attacks, Raikiri to pierce through all his defenses, doton to catch Gaaras from underground, Kamui to snipe and finish him, he is not losing this

Nice work!

Razen · Oct 2, 2012

He close the thread already. Worth to give him as much rep as we can.

MickNerks · Oct 2, 2012

Bogard said:
First of all, Sasukes chidori<<<<<Kakashis raikiri. In fact it's said that Kakashis raikiri can cut everything. Sasukes chidori was able to cut through Gaaras defense and that was in part1. Kakashis raikiri will simply demolish it. Even at a young age, it was able to go through multiple obstacles with ease(look at the middle of my second pic, it destroys it with ease):

Again during the fight against Obito, a Raikiri-kunai was enough to be able to cut through multiple boulders with relativ ease:
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Kimimaro with his power alone was able to go through Gaaras defense:

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So Kakashis raikiri or other variants like raiden will be able to go through his defense without too much problems. I don't see what he could do to defend himself in this case. Just look:

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Raiden was able to cut through multiple V2 tails like it was nothing, something that not even Orochimarus Kusanagi could hurt:

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Kakashis Raikiri is simply one of the most if not the most powerful piercing jutsu in the manga, so i don't think Gaaras defense could handle all these variants. Even Raikage acknowledge its piercing power(able to go through even his lightning defense):

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And Sasukes version is even weaker than Kakashis version

You compare Raikiri to Raikages kick, but they are not comparable. Raikages attack is not a piercing ability. He was just kicking the sand to do damages. It doesn't work like Raikiri that pierce through things. It's not the same things

And that's when i only talk about lightning abilities. Kakashi also has powerful suiton jutsus:

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You say that suiton only makes sand harder, but that's the goal. When the sand is harder, it turns to mud, and Gaara has much more difficulties to control it. In an extent, he can't even control it anymore because of that

He also has the perfect ability to catch Gaaras off-guard by attacking him quickly from underground. Gaara is a static fighter only fighting with his sand, so he could be surprised by this:

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Notice how quickly Kakashi not only managed to avoid Itachis katon by going underground, but also use the Kage Bunshin technique and send his clone to attack Itachi who was almost caught off-guard, Itachi who has much more better reaction feats than Gaara

You say Gaara could fly which is true, but flying will make his attacks easier to be dodge, cuz Gaara needs to be on the ground to actually take advantage of the environment and release his attacks. Furthermore, flying only increase the chance to be targeting by Kamui. Kamui is in fact better in long range attacks. Flying out of Kakashis range makes it easier since he has no pressure in this moment and could finish him off like he wanted to do to Deidara

Kakashi in the contrary has all what it takes to beat Gaara. With suiton attacks, Raikiri to pierce through all his defenses, doton to catch Gaaras from underground, Kamui to snipe and finish him, he is not losing this

That was actually a pretty great defense. + rep for the work put into it.

1. But though kakashi's raiton may be stronger than sasuke's, all it is gonna do it PIERCE gaara's sand. Unlike the boulder that you showed kakashi was easily allowed to cut, gaara's sand has no definatel shape. So even if rakairi did pierce his sand defense its not gonna just crumble and as soon as kakashi manages to get his raikiri thru the sadn the sand will just grap kakashi's leg and sling him around like a rag-doll.

2. You cant compare kimmikaro's effort of getting thru young gaara's defense to Kazekage gaara's. They are on 2 completely diffrent levels of power.

3. Gaara does not need to be on the ground to use his sand effectively. I dont know who told you those lies but they are easily proven false.

Gaara in the air EX.1

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Gaara in the air EX.2

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Gaara in the air EX.3 (my favorite)

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So gaara is not limited to the ground. He can create attack just as effectively in the air.

4. If kakashi goes underground gaara would know. gaara can manipulate the minaerals in the ground to create sand. He also has sand sensing allowing him to sense any movement that comes in contact with his sand. If kakashi is under the sand gaara would know and crush him underground.

Sexy Steel · Oct 2, 2012

lol kakashi's raiki can cut anything, where was this stated?
i am pretty sure it can't get past a complete susano susano

Why Gaara >>> Kakashi !!!!!!

who greater

Gaara

Kakashi

Im not sure

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