[Discussion] Why Fairy Tail is loved/hated so much

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good:

---- soundtrack
---- art (primarily, but then it gets boring later on because almost everyone looks alike in the end)
---- fanservice (primarily, after a while it gets stale)
---- comedy (after a while it gets worn out)

bad: (oh boy)

---- too much asspulls
---- too much nakama power ups
---- too much friendship speeches (and speeches in general, like every chapter they need to say something about their guild)
---- too much "man" (everytime elfman opens his mouth he needs to say "men", what's elfman's personality? nothing! just "man" this, "man" that.)
---- too much natsu and his cool factor (overselling the cool factor)
---- too much lucy and her boobs, her crying, her being useless and her waiting to be saved.
---- oh, and absolutely annoying celestial spirits that needs to show their quirks every damn time they show up.
---- too much grey and his gag, funny at first but got old as fast.
---- juvia being degraded
---- gajeel being degraded
---- laxus' character being regressed after quoting natsu
---- too much jellal, every damn arc needs to have jellal as the plot twist.
---- too much cats, annoying freaking cats.
---- happy defeats hades..... T_T
---- one shot KOs
---- erza "the plot armor" scarlet
---- erza "im always hurt every arc" scarlet
---- leaving it all up to natsu. every single time.
---- super cheesy love tandems...
---- and that super cheesy love tandems actually beats someone through some BS.
---- lyon and sherry, obviosuly no joke characters gets treated as a joke.
---- jura losing to a punch. good god.
---- azuma losing to some BS from friendship....
---- mirajane's fights turning to a bikini contest coz she doesnt want to fight but attacked her opponent after the fanservice. terrible.
---- bacchus gets beaten by ichiya.
---- and bunny guy being nichiya and a complete joke is just no.
---- guild masters are all useless(especially that spinning old lady), they are just there for being there.
---- and makarov the only actual guild master cant freaking die!!!
---- mashima being confused if fairy fail is a children's manga, a love manga, a action manga, a comedy manga or a hentai.
---- minerva, kagura getting trolled.
---- lector being alive
---- rouge and sting doing stupid shit because of mere cats. horrible.
---- parties and fanservice being held at the wrong time.
---- the second origin BS to compensate the equally BS celestial party.
---- empty 7 year timeskip.
---- timeskip plotholes.
---- seriously copying one piece. especially shanks. wow.
---- terrible fights....almost watching pokemon with all the named attacks that have recycled attack actions and elemental names.
---- juvia losing in a water fight.
---- every arc, at least one villain will become a good guy because of some speech.
---- fairy tail being a guild but the ones who goes on quests are almost always natsu, erza, grey and lucy.
---- gajeel's spy on ivan is useless because laxus trolled him anyway and the raven tail just got beaten and booted like that.
---- almost every antagonist came from tower of heaven.
---- lisanna was stupidly brought back but was treated irrelevant.
---- the gruvia, jerza, nalu and other corny shipping by fans pisses me off.
---- sting could not "do it", and was defeated by fairy fail because of their "radiance".
---- mavis is annoying as hell. and her character is very pointless.
---- fairy tail is always the "good", raven tail cheating was bad, but mavis cheating is "ok" coz she is fairy tail.
---- natsu beats 2 dragon slayers, god slayers and even guild masters through nakama punch. terrible.
---- it's hard to decide the path fairy tail wants to go.
---- natsu hardly gets any development.
---- lucy gets development but is inexplicably stupidly kind and dependent.
---- hyping kagura's "sheathed sword" but once sheathed erza just blocked it like its nothing....
---- ultear's "time magic" working on things she should never suppose to.
---- joke fights on serious characters like jellal vs jura.
---- hyping us with 10,000 dragons but in the end 7 only shows up. (and makarov still didn't die for the 5th time good god)
---- natsu not doing anything to find igneel, i even forgot natsu even had a goal.
---- fairy tail always win.
---- almost all antagonists' motives are either destroying fairy tail or lucy, lucy is always a damsel in distress...how useless.
---- that stupid no progression "song of the fairies" tit-galore chapter.
---- antagonists' just gives up after experiencing fairy tail friendship.
---- almost all of the characters (even villains) have pretty faces. (proof that mashima gets fanbase by relying on cool factor and fanservice.)
---- most of fairy tail arcs and characters are so cliche.
---- the grand magic games is terrible, worst arc i have ever seen in manga.
---- natsu, erza, lucy and gray does not even train
---- "i'm all fired up" at least once or twice every episode becomes annoying after few episodes.
---- almost all of the characters in fairy tail have no personality, just 1 or 2 things to say about them.

like, natsu: make lucy cry = fired up, lucy: boobs, attached like a bad gf, grey: stripping, ul speeches, elfman: man, sisters....god!!! it's horrible, it's like create a character and then just put a running quirk on him and a one track mind and that's personality. ugh!!!


---- fairy tail winning the tournament with just 1 day of training and a BS second origin thing.
---- fairy tail characters is a copy-cross between rave master and one piece.
---- godslayers are a joke...guildmasters are a joke...
---- everyone in fairy tail is so attached to the guild...
---- mavis egging everyone in their BS wins in grand magic games.
---- "a guild is where you develop your feelings" is ultra gay.
---- hyping antagonists for nothing.
---- natsu eats anything.
---- the only "feeling" that matters in fairy tail universe is "fairy tail's"....other character's feeling outside of fairy tail don't matter.
---- the places fairy tail goes to all just look alike...terrible exposition and world building as well.
---- fiore is damn big but the only guilds outside of fairy tail that has relevance does not even reach 5.


simply said, fairy tail killed itself. very good potential, but the author does not give a crap about the story, he does care about the eye-candies, the cool factors and pleasing the "teeny bopper" fans who don't mind a storyline and scenes that rivals teletubbies and dora the explorer though.

ugh, i feel nauseous everytime i remember fairy tail shoving "friendship" and their corny ass speeches every.single.episode.

we dont want just a badass guy wrecking havoc, we want a good storyline that actually develop characters.

badassery only works on 13 year olds, fanservice only works after a few faps and loveteams only works on 12 year old girls.

please.
 
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good:

---- soundtrack
---- art (primarily, but then it gets boring later on because almost everyone looks alike in the end)
---- fanservice (primarily, after a while it gets stale)
---- comedy (after a while it gets worn out)

bad: (oh boy)

---- too much asspulls
---- too much nakama power ups
---- too much friendship speeches (and speeches in general, like every chapter they need to say something about their guild)
---- too much "man" (everytime elfman opens his mouth he needs to say "men", what's elfman's personality? nothing! just "man" this, "man" that.)
---- too much natsu and his cool factor (overselling the cool factor)
---- too much lucy and her boobs, her crying, her being useless and her waiting to be saved.
---- oh, and absolutely annoying celestial spirits that needs to show their quirks every damn time they show up.
---- too much grey and his gag, funny at first but got old as fast.
---- juvia being degraded
---- gajeel being degraded
---- laxus' character being regressed after quoting natsu
---- too much jellal, every damn arc needs to have jellal as the plot twist.
---- too much cats, annoying freaking cats.
---- happy defeats hades..... T_T
---- one shot KOs
---- erza "the plot armor" scarlet
---- erza "im always hurt every arc" scarlet
---- leaving it all up to natsu. every single time.
---- super cheesy love tandems...
---- and that super cheesy love tandems actually beats someone through some BS.
---- lyon and sherry, obviosuly no joke characters gets treated as a joke.
---- jura losing to a punch. good god.
---- azuma losing to some BS from friendship....
---- mirajane's fights turning to a bikini contest coz she doesnt want to fight but attacked her opponent after the fanservice. terrible.
---- bacchus gets beaten by ichiya.
---- and bunny guy being nichiya and a complete joke is just no.
---- guild masters are all useless(especially that spinning old lady), they are just there for being there.
---- and makarov the only actual guild master cant freaking die!!!
---- mashima being confused if fairy fail is a children's manga, a love manga, a action manga, a comedy manga or a hentai.
---- minerva, kagura getting trolled.
---- lector being alive
---- rouge and sting doing stupid shit because of mere cats. horrible.
---- parties and fanservice being held at the wrong time.
---- the second origin BS to compensate the equally BS celestial party.
---- empty 7 year timeskip.
---- timeskip plotholes.
---- seriously copying one piece. especially shanks. wow.
---- terrible fights....almost watching pokemon with all the named attacks that have recycled attack actions and elemental names.
---- juvia losing in a water fight.
---- every arc, at least one villain will become a good guy because of some speech.
---- fairy tail being a guild but the ones who goes on quests are almost always natsu, erza, grey and lucy.
---- gajeel's spy on ivan is useless because laxus trolled him anyway and the raven tail just got beaten and booted like that.
---- almost every antagonist came from tower of heaven.
---- lisanna was stupidly brought back but was treated irrelevant.
---- the gruvia, jerza, nalu and other corny shipping by fans pisses me off.
---- sting could not "do it", and was defeated by fairy fail because of their "radiance".
---- mavis is annoying as hell. and her character is very pointless.
---- fairy tail is always the "good", raven tail cheating was bad, but mavis cheating is "ok" coz she is fairy tail.
---- natsu beats 2 dragon slayers, god slayers and even guild masters through nakama punch. terrible.
---- it's hard to decide the path fairy tail wants to go.
---- natsu hardly gets any development.
---- lucy gets development but is inexplicably stupidly kind and dependent.
---- hyping kagura's "sheathed sword" but once sheathed erza just blocked it like its nothing....
---- ultear's "time magic" working on things she should never suppose to.
---- joke fights on serious characters like jellal vs jura.
---- hyping us with 10,000 dragons but in the end 7 only shows up. (and makarov still didn't die for the 5th time good god)
---- natsu not doing anything to find igneel, i even forgot natsu even had a goal.
---- fairy tail always win.
---- almost all antagonists' motives are either destroying fairy tail or lucy, lucy is always a damsel in distress...how useless.
---- that stupid no progression "song of the fairies" tit-galore chapter.
---- antagonists' just gives up after experiencing fairy tail friendship.
---- almost all of the characters (even villains) have pretty faces. (proof that mashima gets fanbase by relying on cool factor and fanservice.)
---- most of fairy tail arcs and characters are so cliche.
---- the grand magic games is terrible, worst arc i have ever seen in manga.
---- natsu, erza, lucy and gray does not even train
---- "i'm all fired up" at least once or twice every episode becomes annoying after few episodes.
---- almost all of the characters in fairy tail have no personality, just 1 or 2 things to say about them.

like, natsu: make lucy cry = fired up, lucy: boobs, attached like a bad gf, grey: stripping, ul speeches, elfman: man, sisters....god!!! it's horrible, it's like create a character and then just put a running quirk on him and a one track mind and that's personality. ugh!!!


---- fairy tail winning the tournament with just 1 day of training and a BS second origin thing.
---- fairy tail characters is a copy-cross between rave master and one piece.
---- godslayers are a joke...guildmasters are a joke...
---- everyone in fairy tail is so attached to the guild...
---- mavis egging everyone in their BS wins in grand magic games.
---- "a guild is where you develop your feelings" is ultra gay.
---- hyping antagonists for nothing.
---- natsu eats anything.
---- the only "feeling" that matters in fairy tail universe is "fairy tail's"....other character's feeling outside of fairy tail don't matter.
---- the places fairy tail goes to all just look alike...terrible exposition and world building as well.
---- fiore is damn big but the only guilds outside of fairy tail that has relevance does not even reach 5.


simply said, fairy tail killed itself. very good potential, but the author does not give a crap about the story, he does care about the eye-candies, the cool factors and pleasing the "teeny bopper" fans who don't mind a storyline and scenes that rivals teletubbies and dora the explorer though.

ugh, i feel nauseous everytime i remember fairy tail shoving "friendship" and their corny ass speeches every.single.episode.

we dont want just a badass guy wrecking havoc, we want a good storyline that actually develop characters.

badassery only works on 13 year olds, fanservice only works after a few faps and loveteams only works on 12 year old girls.

please.
Now I know the true meaning of a hate speech :)
Well, at first I thought it was an opinion :)
 

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Now I know the true meaning of a hate speech :)
Well, at first I thought it was an opinion :)
you shouldve seen me when i started watching/reading fairy fail, i WAS a big fan.

but you should not mistake "hate" and "stating facts"

reason why i very well know what im talking about was because i used to enjoy the series, but after a while, everything they have to offer gets old and they dont develop, they have the same pattern everytime and lucy became a super annoying character, along with the exceeds, fairy tail is the shit before.

now its "shit"

after the edolas arc, fairy tail was just a downward spiral.

after a few episodes im pretty annoyed with the revolving gags with each character already, they overused it....but im still holding on since i enjoy it, but after grand magic games, i just cant lie, the story is terrible.

so, to the people who got some kind of logic behind them, i advise that you drop fairy tail right now, because that way you'll save time...its pretty enjoyable at first but you'll get less and less euphoria because its predictable as hell and you wont care about the 2 main characters because one gets zero development and one is an annoying pair of bouncing tits.

i do believe that fairy tail will be appreciated by kids 8-16 years old, especially little girls and people that never watched good animes, because if youre not in this scope, its hard to understand why anyone with logic will like fairy tail.
 
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Fairy Tail is a *****. The ultimate textbook love-hate relationship.


Hiro is definitely creative. The problem is his overall story writing has some faults.


If you ignore the fights and abusive fan service


1. Pretty interesting characters who have pretty good back stories. Only thing thst gets in their way is the fact Nakama lower makes them invincible. Sure some characters practically never change personality, but that's not entirely different from how the Strawhats from OP are, or even some times the K11 such as right after Neji dies. Gray's development recently has been wonderful.

2. Cool character designs. Honestly I like practically every character design. The only issue is what he has the girls wear. But fan service.

3. Awesome magic. Seriously some things are really cool. Erza and Jellal have my favorite styles. If only plot didn't turn Erza's weapons into blunt baseball bats...

4. Cool fights. Up until the final blow, many fights are honestly pretty good. It's just Nakama Power ruins it in the end.

5. Interesting world. We haven't gotten as much as say OP, but Fairy Tail has made some effort to make note of the world. Like how. Fiore is just one country. The governmental system. The dark/independent/chartered guilds.

6. Some pretty note worthy plot points. Mainly Zeref, but we've also had moments like Erza and Siegran's relationship before learning Erza's past.


Only problem FT has is...

Rampant abuse of Nakama Power.

Rampant abuse of Fan Servive (armor is meant to cover and protect the body. Not show off).


Which when its just two it seems like "big deal." Problem is just how repetitive amd destructive to the plot it can be.


For example: Tartarus started off amazingly. Then all the sudden Natsu and Gajeel start low diffing. Gray (albeit due to relationship and motive) beats a man who seemed to be on Gildartz's level and actually killed a dragon (when no one could so much as hurt one). Happy tanks a trump card that was greater than something thst destroyed the magic council. Honestly, Gray's development has been the trump point of this arc.
 
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