Why everyone hate on Madara?
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Think about it.Kid Sasuke easily got the Bijuu,Adult Sasuke could easily get the Bijuu.Who was said to be travelling around the world? Who else is around the world?
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He can still easily get them,and even without them - Madara's legs are not soloing my fav.
It's just one or two people,atleast that i know of.Not worth talking about.
Sorry. If you obviously can't read the manga properly I can't help the uneducated. You want me to hold your hand through everything in this manga?
I'll give you some points, but it's the BEST I can do on my phone.
- Sasuke [ half mastered Rinnegan ] + 9 Bijuuu chakra = Equaled Naruto, who was chakra drained, and only could muster up strength from the chakra Kurama gave him (the forms, btw).
- Even with all that nonsense of hack plot powers Sasuke was getting with his potent power with the Rinnegan, which he mastered in like ... what 1 day? Okay Kishi lol. He still couldn't defeat Naruto.
In fact this whole battle, was just a a countering match, until they both finished each other.
Now here let me educate you.
The biggest difference between both of these characters: Naruto and Sasuke equal each other, there is no obvious winner, right? That's where you mess up as a Sasuke fan, because you believe Sasuke can beat Naruto. Naruto can't beat Sauske, and Sasuke can't beat Naruto. Now how does Naruto > Sasuke then?
Naruto can't lose, he can't give up, in fact it's in his nature to never stop trying to stand. Sasuke on the other hand could keep finding power to beat Naruto once and for all, but Naruto would just keep getting on his feet beating his every move until they both finish.
That's why Naruto is different from Sasuke, why Naruto will always beat Sasuke, and why Sasuke accepted his defeat. He realized that he could never beat Naruto, why most people who fight Naruto or who stand by him realize this.
I am a Sasuke fan, and my name is Indra. Your telling me to change my name to Ashura because I'm defending "Naruto?" You don't understand do you? What it means to be a true Sasuke fan? Being his fan means (to me at least) that you understand his strengths and weaknesses, and when you know he can't acheive a feat, you realize this and accept it.
This is why I really cringe at the sight of you, and anyone else who makes a character seem more than he is. The fact is
Ashura > Indra
Hashirama > Madara
Naruto > Sasuke
If you cannot accept this because you believe in Sasuke too much, I cannot help you. I can only shun you.
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OK, put that fans aside
that mean Madara as a character is not bad to you?
Nice to knew which is the first for you
and thanks for the answer
actually Im here want an answer or opinion about Madara as a character, not about his fans.
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I don't hate Madara. He was the best villain and a badass. It's just his fanbase that is annoying.
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I'm on mobile too,infact,i'm always on mobile when i come here,i can easily see i understand the manga better than you do which is why i jokingly asked you to enlighten me on how Naruto>Sasuke,instead if listing off his potential power + enhaced prevoius ones,you choose to downplay Sasuke in certain areas while overhyping him in other areas ,And even downplay Naruto's power level in order to act like Sasuke with all his "Mastery" if the Rinnegan couldn't even beat a half Kyuubi Naruto right?
Sasuke didn't half master the Rinnegan - he himself noted how he wouldn't be able to absorb his chakra while using Enton Chidori.Sasuke also didn't use Human Path,Animal Path,Shinra Tensei,or any of the other five basic Nature elements in which he already hasn't learn which the Rinnegan allows the user to learn - Earth,Water,and Wind - "Half Mastered Rinnegan" - you overhype him in order to make him less than Naruto.
You downplay Naruto inorder to make him greater than Sasuke who he "beat" - "A half Yin Kyuubi Naruto vs half Mastered Rinnegan Sasuke".
Naruto literally said he couldn't move,then he said he wanted to bash Sasuke upside the head,in response to that Sasuke laughed and said even in that condition he still wants to fight,then as a friendly gesture he said he'll take the loss.
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Sasuke will always lose to Naruto? He beat him - 3 times - the fourth battle was a draw.
Naruto had more than the Yin Kyuubi.He had chakra from all the Bijuu aswell.
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He used it up in his multiple Avatars,Clones,and BD's,then the Kyuubi gathered all the nature energy above ground for him.
Let me guess,"Naruto didn't use their chakra,Naruto couldn't use it"
Remember,the Sharingan can see Chakra.When Naruto first got their power Tobi was able to see it.
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And Sasuke pionted out that Naruto didn't have much chakra left.
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If Naruto didn't use there chakra then why would he be running out? Was Sasuke,who can see chakra,lying to Naruto when he said to Naruto he was running out? And did Naruto and the Kyuubi believe him and quickly gather nature energy?
Also you ignore how the Kyuubi was constantly gathering and giving Naruto Nature energy throughout the battle - Here's the first time he did.When he gathered ALL the Nature energy above ground.
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Don't you think that was a big boost? You ignore that though while downplaying Sasuke's inelligence as if he shouldn't have been that skilled,as if it was impossible for him,having always been shown as a Genuis,to have gotte a hang some of the Rinnegans powers and used it well after having used the Rinnegan for awhile.
I didn't expect you to repsond, but I cannot read all that. Thanks for your contribution and I'm sorry for cutting you loose for your hard work in that post.
Sadly my voice never changed, despite what you said, this is probably Sasuke wank.
You have to understand my words to comprehand what I'm truly saying.
Sasuke is not weak, Sasuke is not inferior.
Naruto on the hand will always beat Sasuke, no matter what.
Most of the community agrees that Naruto > Sasuke, why do you need true manga facts to show your stupidity?
You don't understand the manga at all if you think Sasuke beats Naruto, so sorry in your fail attempts of trying to do so.
You can keep trying again, but you'll never win. Why? Because your trying to say Sasuke beats Naruto, and that just will never work.
;/ I feel sorry for you...
EDIT; Naruto did not use the Bijuu chakra against Sasuke, only Naruto -__-
Naruto with full kurama, and the other bijuu chakra (if he can use it) is too much for Sasuke, not to mention Sage Mode.
I don't understand why you are so stupid lol.
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It's not hard to type a few paragraphs and post facts.Sasuke is better than Naruto,whether you want to accept or not.In terms of battle Sasuke wins.In order to act like Naruto is better you downplay his power level while over hyping Sasuke's.
You prefer to selectively read the manga in order to put Naruto above.You think just cause Naruto won morally,that he beats Sasuke in actual combat,and in each of your replies you put in insults rather than simply discussing the manga.That's your way of attempting to win a debate.
Answer the question.If Naruto didn't use the Bijuus chakra,then why was he running out of chakra? Was Sasuke lying to Naruto when he said he was running out?
I know you did just say I selectively put Naruto above the everyone else when all you post is Sasuke wank. Everytime you post in a thread, it's complete Sasuke wank. When someone talks good about Sauske, you rep, and you agree with them completely.
I dare you, to bring up scans of me fapping only about Naruto. I talk good about Naruto, Sasuke, and all the other characters besides Sakura x DDD.
The end game is Naruto beats Sasuke, why can't you just accept this? Why are you so thick? I don't understand how you cannot understand something that more than 3/4's of the population understand. What are you even trying to prove by constantly being wrong about Sasuke? Can you not see the lies you tell yourself? Or how we the true Sasuke fan's see your writing and think to ourself "Is he even serious?" I respected you at one point, but your losing it inch my inch man.
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I didn't see this.
Bijuu chakra is secluded from the main reserves unlike the seal that placed Kyuubi chakra inside of Naruto which greatly improved his.
Obviously you should know when Naruto is using a Demon's chakra, they show up in the panel :l
He was running out of chakra, that didn't mean he could completely absorb the chakra of the other bijuu to create techniques. You want him to start spilling out lava style? He needs CHAKRA to use CHAKRA. Hence why he was using most of the other demon's attack by creating Rasengan variants. Kyuubi is a giant chakra beast unlike the other demons who have elements/kekkei genkai elements to their chakra.
He obviously couldn't use it in the battle, and he was defintely out of chakra.
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It seems that you are only thinking of the Rinnegan.The Sharingan can copy all jutsu besides KKG,and Sasuke could learn Sealing jutsu rather than just use the Sharingan to perfectly copy it.Do you think after 10 or so years Sasuke hasn't learned atleast 1 powerful sealing Jutsu?
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I meant to put Sasuke's name after the word,"above". So i meant to say you pit Naruto above Sasuke.In this conversation i was talking about only Naruto Vs Sasuke,not anyone else.
All my post are Sasuke wank? See how biased you are? Apperently simply supporting Sasuke is wank.And How would you know if i rep someone when that info isn't public? There you go making guesses.Is this how you try to win debates? Namecalling,Specualtion,and using group numbers
And you think i only talk about Sasuke? Well here's a comment from me supporting Sakura better than you've probably ever seen anyone else.
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Did you know Sakura is my 3rd favorite character? Right behind Sasuke,and Naruto? I will also wreck you if i come across you saying anything false on Sakura.
Speak for yourself,not the fodders or imaginary people you keep mentioning.Pathetic,trying to use group numbers against me.Be an individual,why try to use a group effort to win a debate? Can't do it yourself?
I am not intimidated over those suppoused numbers you bring up.
"I do no fear opponent in front of me."
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Now in what ways are you saying Naruto beats Sasuke in which,"everyone" knows?Morally? Yes Naruto does beat Sasuke. Battle wise? No.
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I love how this thread turned into a sasuke vs naruto thread but yeah, I dont like the cocky type of villains. Besides I always thought madara would lead to something bigger.