Why does Naruto suck at training?

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I think we all tend to forget the advantages of the sharingan.

The Sharingan:Sharingan's powers is being able to see chakra flow. The Sharingan itself gives colour to chakra, allowing the wielder to differentiate them. They are also able to tell if a person is under a genjutsu because the person's chakra flow would be irregular.

It Grants the user an incredible clarity of perception, allowing them to easily recognise genjutsu and different forms of chakra, this allows the user to pick up on subtle details, enabling them to read lip movements or mimic something like pencil movements. As the Sharingan evolves, gaining more tomoe, this ability extends to being able to track fast-moving objects before finally giving some amount of predictive capabilities to the user, allowing them to see the image of an attacker's next move from the slightest muscle tension in their body and counter-attack or dodge without any wasted movement.

The Sharingan's most well-known ability is that it grants the user the ability to copy almost any technique that he or she witnesses, apart from other kekkei genkai techniques. The user can memorise ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu with near-perfect accuracy, allowing the user to use the techniques as their own, or even modify them to create their own new techniques



Everyone's always quick to point out Naruto's Chakra advantage, but the Sharingan (especially MS/EMS) almost grantees an advantage in nearly every other manner. .
 

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Just gonna say this and be done: Sasuke like training for a hobby.

In any case Naruto achieved A SM more perfect than Jiraiya's besides the fact that he had Kurama as a setback, he trained in wind release to achieve rasenshuriken, KCM,BM,etc. Stop hating man it ain't good for ya health.
I'm talking about the 3-year time skip. Not until he seen how powerful Sasuke got that he actually decided he need to step up his training. So the question is, what the hell did he do those 3 years?
 

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current sasuke need power from naruto... manga pages>>>kishi words>your opinion
Sasuke activated PS without Naruto's cloak if that's what you're referring to [ ]

Kishi is the one that draws the manga pages. Whatever he says is fact because its his manga he decides what happens. And he says Naruto and Sasuke are equal. If you disagree then you're being delusional.
 

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Because sasuke needed more power to rival naruto. Naruto just took 3 years off with jiraiya to spy on chicks while sasuke and oro got it on in their cave. Lol
 

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Well plot mostly. Since Sasuke was already more versatile in using jutsu, he gave Sasuke a heck of alot more awesome justu since Naruto wasn't really good at learning jutsu's quickly then, and he had a giant battery(kurama) in him which made other jutsu's against him harmless.

Talk about ironic :mad:_@:
 
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Sasuke activated PS without Naruto's cloak if that's what you're referring to [ ]

Kishi is the one that draws the manga pages. Whatever he says is fact because its his manga he decides what happens. And he says Naruto and Sasuke are equal. If you disagree then you're being delusional.
please read slugs word about cloak
naah...i admit Sasuke equals if you explain me how Sasuke can survive 100 sage mode clones with 100 frog katas, 10
continuous senjutsu bijuu bomb or 10 Bsm clones.
 

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Lol the general defence in here is sasuke used steroids, really? Oh, so Kurama isn't like taking steroids? Cause everyone can camp 1000 clones to train with and multiply their progress right? XD

anyway, it was established from part 1 that sasuke's a genius that picks things up very quickly and naruto has to go through the slow and tedious process. It's all part of keeping them in character. It would make no sense if naruto had the same, near same, or even more progress than sasuke in those 3 years when he's supposed to be an idiot with bad chakra control who finds it really difficult to progress... It'd be like rocklee suddenly unlocking potential from no where when the guy's suppose to be the kind of person who gets 1 unit of progress from doing 1000 punches whereas sakura gets 20 units of progress from reading a book and throwing 1 punch.

Kabuto is a master drug user and maker. The fact that sasuke is immune to poisons (apparently) shows that he is willing to take enhancing substances. This is the same guy that said he would go to any lengths to beat itachi. Plus he already took drugs for power (mind awakening pill for cm2) but I digress.

Their training was for different purposes. Oro trained sasuke to take on itachi whilst jiriaya was training naruto in chakra control in the hopes he can learn to control kuramas chakra. Plus it's a bit of an unfair comparison considering sasuke just has to watch oro do a movement or Jutsu with his sharingan and he can copy it.

Naruto learned wind release and formed it into a above s-rank Jutsu in a week so he isn't exactly terrible (minato couldn't even do it in his lifetime). Just because he doesn't have cheat code eye doesn't make him a terrible trainer - but I'm pretty sure you know this anyway.
You can't train your body to handle stress(speed) by just copying it with sharingan
Orochimaru's hands were sealed so he couldn't show jutsu
Orochimaru can't use raiton so he can't show chidori variants
Orochimaru couldn't use his hands so he couldn't even show kenjutsu training

This entire argument is pretty invalid...
 

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please read slugs word about cloak
naah...i admit Sasuke equals if you explain me how Sasuke can survive 100 sage mode clones with 100 frog katas, 10
continuous senjutsu bijuu bomb or 10 Bsm clones.
when has any of that ever been shown...? Even kurama maxed out his chakra pool on 1 massive bijuu dama but naruto can just fire off 10 with no confirmation? Wtf...? This is why i sometimes appear to be a naruto hater, because of constant nonsense like this which has never ever ever been hinted in the manga.
 

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jks right, he finished last in the academy, he did not even know what chakra was, he had no battle tactic until recently. His good side is that he is a hard worker.
false. even in first part naruto used tactic
false. naruto mix of talent and hardwork
i can agree if you say that pre time skip naruto not have booksmart/knowledge and sucks in base skills.
 

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In addition to goodboy.
Orochimaru cant use sharingan so he couldnt train sasuke.
Bottom line orochimaru was never interested in training sasuke too much if at all.
Sasuke was constantly pushing him for training. Oro just wanted his body and didnt want too powerful sasuke.
 

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when has any of that ever been shown...? Even kurama maxed out his chakra pool on 1 massive bijuu dama but naruto can just fire off 10 with no confirmation? Wtf...? .
Naruto showed this jutsu in jinchuuriki form
and you not saying how Sasuke can blitzed 100 sage mode clones with 100 frog katas or 10 bsm clones
 

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Naruto showed this jutsu in jinchuuriki form
and you not saying how Sasuke can blitzed 100 sage mode clones with 100 frog katas or 10 bsm clones
100 SM clones arent beating EMS sasuke with or w/o katas.
10 BSM clones? Did naruto even managed to pull one? He could only do 2 BM clones if memory serves me.
Why wont naruto just make 100 BSM kuramas so you can sleep at night not worrying about his well being?
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So did the count reach 100?
 

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Naruto vs. Haku - went inside the mirror dome (dumb move), fox saved his ass
Naruto vs. Kiba - charged at him over and over again saying how he won't give up - no tactics
Naruto vs. Neji - exchanged bunch of hits got his chakra blocked, fox saved his ass
Naruto vs. Sasuke - wailed at him over and over again, fox tried but couldn't save his ass, once again no strategy
Naruto vs. Kabuto - some planning, cut his hand and landed a rasengan
Naruto vs. Kakuzu - charged with clones

the rest were after he got SM and after time skip. (Pain, and war arc)
agree.
false. naruto used tactic against kiba
naruto tricked neji with clones
sasuke not used tactic too
agree
Naruto used bunshin tactic on kakuzu
also you forget tactic against gaara, oboro team , zabuza, kidomaru, tayuya .
 

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100 SM clones arent beating EMS sasuke with or w/o katas.
sasuke not have counter for this
susanoo ? tsunade with one punch can broke madara's perfect susanoo rib kage and frog kata better than this
amaterasu /enton? ok. sasuke can burn some clones with this... anyway sage mode bunshins can put punch on sasuke
enton covered susanoo ? for frog kata not needed contact with susanoo body
sage mode speed>sasuke speed
sharingan prediction abilities useless against 360 degrees attack plius bunshins have 360 degrees sage mode sensor skills.
My main point is that Naruto's strategy is to go at it over and over again until he figures something out, He doesn't plan ahead like Sasuke vs. Deidare or Sasuke vs. Danzo. Although Sasuke vs. Gokage was an epic fail. As far as battle strategy goes he don't have much
ummm... Naruto planned his strategy with gaara and zabuza fight
disagree. naruto created one of the best strategy in manga.
 
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