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the only one that really annoys me is the Kamui first of all he rips puts it right in there and knows how to use it better than anyone and hes a juubi jin why couldnt obito use it?
Its either plot shield or Kishi's way of PNJing Obito to weaken him because he would have solo'd SA neg diff with Kamui as Juubi Jin

in that case obito would be so damn OP
he could kick out current nauto and sasuke at the same time
 

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First off Obito said he couldn't make things slip through him as a Jinchuriki which means he couldn't transpose different parts of his body through dimensions being two entities now made it impossible but he can travel through a tunnel which is the base Kamui which both him and Kakashi can use Kakashi's is offense in nature while Obito's is defensive which is the nature of the Mangekyo 2. His eyes were in the real world somewhere else it wouldn't make sense to have two sets of Rinnegans would it 3. He used to limbo as a blitz attack then put leashes on them 4. They weren't going to let Gai save the world he definitely wasn't the child prophecy it makes sense that Madara has Godlike regeneration 5. Nagato was just another one of his pawns why would he tell him plans when he never even talk to him directly it was Obito that talk to him and manipulated 6. Madara has been playing around this entire war he's so OP he probably never imagined Naruto and Sasuke would be as strong as they are now
PS ones I skipped I agree
Answer one at a time pls anyway obito didn't explain why he couldn't use kamui he simply just said he can't. The Jubi was a part of his body doesn't make sense he can't warp it. 2.
Of course it would make sense having two rinnegan in the world. 3. No he used limbo it hit them in the face and they said they can't get up then he chained them afterwards. 4. That doesn't explain why he wasn't obliterated. 5. Nagato gained the rinnegan when he was a kid and madara didn't know obito existed if he didn't tell nagato the plan Nagato wouldn't know to bring him back to life. 6. Still doesn't make sense.
 

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First off Obito said he couldn't make things slip through him as a Jinchuriki which means he couldn't transpose different parts of his body through dimensions being two entities now made it impossible but he can travel through a tunnel which is the base Kamui which both him and Kakashi can use Kakashi's is offense in nature while Obito's is defensive which is the nature of the Mangekyo 2. His eyes were in the real world somewhere else it wouldn't make sense to have two sets of Rinnegans would it 3. He used to limbo as a blitz attack then put leashes on them 4. They weren't going to let Gai save the world he definitely wasn't the child prophecy it makes sense that Madara has Godlike regeneration 5. Nagato was just another one of his pawns why would he tell him plans when he never even talk to him directly it was Obito that talk to him and manipulated 6. Madara has been playing around this entire war he's so OP he probably never imagined Naruto and Sasuke would be as strong as they are now
PS ones I skipped I agree

first obito passing trough object and moving to other dimension is the same jutsu
second obito said as long as there's juubi inside I can't move to other dimension, Madara has done that
third madara took the eye in one second and from heaven he knows how to use it in the next second
 

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Answer one at a time pls anyway obito didn't explain why he couldn't use kamui he simply just said he can't. The Jubi was a part of his body doesn't make sense he can't warp it. 2.
Of course it would make sense having two rinnegan in the world. 3. No he used limbo it hit them in the face and they said they can't get up then he chained them afterwards. 4. That doesn't explain why he wasn't obliterated. 5. Nagato gained the rinnegan when he was a kid and madara didn't know obito existed if he didn't tell nagato the plan Nagato wouldn't know to bring him back to life. 6. Still doesn't make sense.

If you read the Viz translation Obito said he couldn't let the attacks slip through that defensive part of that Mangekyo for parts of his multiple or different parts of his body are transposed through the dimensions while other parts stay in the real world the base Kamui is not warping it it's a tunnel created through space and time to travel in whole and with other people have you ever seen him make another person intangible the Juubi is another entity sealed inside of him he can't become intangible with it inside of him. It was his Rinnegan that brought him back to life which he removed before he even died he had Zetsu and that's why he needed also Obito which he laid a trap inside of him to bring him back to life he said the black rods were his will plus black Zetsu which infused with his chakra he planned to bring himself back to life he wouldn't leave it to chance and limbo is a shadow world which is movements were invisible not really a plot hole just not explained it actually makes sense if you think about it logically Madara held onto life until he found a suitable pawn in which to launch his plan
 
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If you read the Viz translation Obito said he couldn't let the attacks slip through that defensive part of that Mangekyo for parts of his multiple or different parts of his body are transposed through the dimensions while other parts stay in the real world the base Kamui is not warping it it's a tunnel created through space and time to travel in whole and with other people have you ever seen him make another person intangible the Juubi is another entity sealed inside of him he can't become intangible with it inside of him. It was his Rinnegan that brought him back to life which he removed before he even died he had Zetsu and that's why he needed also Obito which he laid a trap inside of him to bring him back to life he said the black rods were his will plus black Zetsu which infused with his chakra he planned to bring himself back to life he wouldn't leave it to chance and limbo is a shadow world which is movements were invisible not really a plot hole just not explained it actually makes sense if you think about it logically Madara held onto life until he found a suitable pawn in which it launch his plan
That's still a plot hole he's not phasing he's warping different parts of his body to kamui.. The kamui dimension is big it could fit the juubi easily not only that but bijuu don't have bodies when inside jinchuuriki if they did they'd kill the host obviously they are just chakra and inside the users mind.
Lol NO black zestu only works on hashi DNA if it could control Nagato it would have the instant he unlocked the rinnegan. How could madara hope to find a pawn in a cave in the middle of bumfuk nowhere? Also you keep mentioning. Zetsu but if you watched obitos flashback zetsu wasn't created until obito recovered some(weeks later)
 

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That's still a plot hole he's not phasing he's warping different parts of his body to kamui.. The kamui dimension is big it could fit the juubi easily not only that but bijuu don't have bodies when inside jinchuuriki if they did they'd kill the host obviously they are just chakra and inside the users mind.
Lol NO black zestu only works on hashi DNA if it could control Nagato it would have the instant he unlocked the rinnegan. How could madara hopet to find a pawn in a cave in the middle of bumfuk nowhere? Also you keep mentioning. Zetsu but if you watched obitos flashback zetsu wasn't created until obito recovered some(weeks later)

I'm sorry that your just not understanding but that's okay the Tailed beasts are apart of the Godtree and or physically manifested in the real world and then sealed inside of persons body the husk of the Juubi which is a physical object which can grow Zetsu chakra can become physical that's how you make shadow clones and Madara used hand signs to control Obito who says he can do the same thing to Nagato and the black rods which come from Geido statue as well as the Rinnegan and Hashiramas wood style come from the God tree
 

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A lot of those are easily explained, op.
 

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I'm sorry that your just not understanding but that's okay the Tailed beasts are apart of the Godtree and or physically manifested in the real world and then sealed inside of persons body the husk of the Juubi which is a physical object which can grow Zetsu chakra can become physical that's how you make shadow clones and Madara used hand signs to control Obito who says he can do the same thing to Nagato and the black rods which come from Geido statue as well as the Rinnegan and Hashiramas wood style come from the God tree
No YOU'RE not understanding its simple. The Jubi was sealed in his body therefore it's now a part of his body and he can also use it's power. When bijuu are sealed in people they have no physical body they are only chakra and a spirit inside that persons body. Therefore there is no reason obito should not be able to use kamui yet madara can.
 
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