Why does Kakashi's perfect susanoo make people mad?

[chaos control]

Why do people get mad about this? Here is one silly reason that I have heard:

"Susanoo is said to be awakened in only rare Uchihas, so Kakashi shouldn't have it since he is not Uchiha to begin with."

Here is why that reason is illogical:

Susanoo and other MS jutsus are awakened through the eyes, not the body. You can argue that Madara used susanoo without eyes, but we know that he still needed his eyes to awaken susanoo in the first place. Therefore, the ability to get susanoo is contingent on the eyes themselves, not the body that holds the eyes. Having said that, it doesn't matter that Kakashi is not an Uchiha. It only matters that the eyes are that of an Uchiha.

If you bring up that whole issue of it being rare, who is to say that Obito's eyes were not one of those rarities? Who are you to determine who can be rare and who can not?

That takes care of one reason. Another silly reason is this:

"Kakashi doesn't have EMS. He only has MS."

My response: Indra only had normal MS as well. It is not like anybody else during his time had MS so there was nobody who could have given their eyes to Indra (or had them stolen by Indra) for Indra to obtain EMS. Yet, Indra had perfect susanoo. Plus, the manga never stated explicitly that you needed EMS to get perfect susanoo. That was just our assumption based on seeing Madara and Sasuke.

Therefore it makes perfect sense for Kakashi to be able to get perfect susanoo.

Here is another reason:

"Kakashi is not supposed to have the chakara reserve."

We clearly saw Obito give Kakashi his chakara. That takes care of that reason.

Here is the last reason:

"It is a slap in the face to Uchihas. Itachi never got perfect susanoo. Shisui never got it. It took Madara and Sasuke until EMS to get it and it took Sasuke until rinnegan to stabalize it."

My response: Screw them and their Uchiha pride. If they hate it so much that a non-Uchiha outdid a lot of them, sucks for them. They should have practiced better chakara control or gotten more skill with their mangekyou sharingan eyes and maybe then they would get perfect susanoo. Don't hate the player, hate the game. For those of them who never awakened MS in the first place, too bad. That is not Kakashi's fault.

That takes care of all the illogical reasons that I can think of at the moment to hate on Kakashi's perfect susanoo.

What are your reasons for hating it if you hate it?

 

[Gerkak]

Just Ignore them. They are just butthurt that their favourite uchiha didn't awaken PS with just MS

 

[Haloguy2710]

I agree. Good thread

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Because he got it through no effort at all,imagine if someone could do Naruto's best technique right off the bat and use it on the same level he could.People would be just as pissed.

 

[Sound]

Because it shits on Indra's status as special.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Just Ignore them. They are just butthurt that their favourite uchiha didn't awaken PS with just MS

That's because they go blind before they can reach that.

 

[Mishima]

Because he's using MS and due to the amount of chakra PS requires it should be killing him.

 

[Obítō1]

Cause Uchiha's unable to use it and Someone non Uchiha Hatake is Using it unfairly :|

 

[Darth Uchiha]

The issue is that, unless Obito takes his eyes back, Kakashi will likely die via chakra exhaustion, that's why this makes no sense. Plus, IIRC earlier in part 2 it was stated by both Itachi then Sasuke that you need both tsukuyomi and amaterasu to activate susano'o. Now, even if you make the argument that Obito has special eyes (Kamui and activate sharingan with two tomoe) there's still the chakra exhaustion problem for Kakashi, that's why people think it's stupid.

 

[TenthHokagexRamen]

A non uchiha shouldn't be able to use perfect susanoo so effortlessly, but whatever it be gone by the end of the battle hopefully

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

They mad because kakashi wasnt born an uchiha, even though itachi and obito had both praised his usage of sharingan, and kakashi has been at at disadvantage with it all the time

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The responses would be different if madara had done it in a flashback with MS or itachi had done it after getting revived "oh madara so badass!", "itachi so badass!"

Apparently if you arent born to sphesul parents you arent supposed to do anything

 

[Gerkak]

That's because they go blind before they can reach that.

Exactly. Obito's MS for some reason didn't go blind. So its not impossible for someone with his eyes to use PS.

 

[SuperChief]

People hate it because it came out of nowhere.

With Madara and Sasuke, people still assumed they both had Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu, even if they didn't show it. But 688 was a definitive retcon, which sucks. Furthermore, Kakashi got the strongest version of Susanoo is just a few pages despite the fact it took Sasuke forever and near death to obtain it. It's just a silly, unnecessary development.

If Kakashi had retained Kamui's full power, i.e. including intangibility, etc. that would have been acceptable to me. This isn't.

 

[Bieber]

Sasuke said every cell in his body was hurting while using the ribcage, but Kakashi doesn't even feel any sort of pain while using the PS.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

They mad because kakashi wasnt born an uchiha, even though itachi and obito had both praised his usage of sharingan, and kakashi has been at at disadvantage with it all the time

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The responses would be different if madara had done it in a flashback with MS or itachi had done it after getting revived "oh madara so badass!", "itachi so badass!"

Apparently if you arent born special you arent supposed to do anything

So if some random mook could use I don't know....FRS with no effort,despite the fact Naruto had to train his ass off for it and on the same level as him ,it would'nt be a problem?Because it's the same thing with Kakashi using PS like it was nothing.

 

[Genjin]

Cry more Uchiha fapboys. XD

 

[chaos control]

Because he got it through no effort at all,imagine if someone could do Naruto's best technique right off the bat and use it on the same level he could.People would be just as pissed.

If he truly copied it by watching Sasuke then that was pure intelligence and skill on Kakashi's part. If he got it just by having the eyes alone, then yes it was pretty lucky, but you act like nobody else in this manga has gotten powerful things through luck alone. Sasuke got rinnegan handed to him on a silver platter by Hagoromo. Itachi just found a special sword and all of a sudden he was able to seal people. It happens all the time in this manga. That is why people really should just stop getting mad about it.

Because it shits on Indra's status as special.

How so? Sasuke still has the moon yin seal, something that Kakashi doesn't have. Indra's transmigrants can still awaken rinnegan, something Kakashi can't do.

Because he's using MS and due to the amount of chakra PS requires it should be killing him.

He got Obito's chakara.

Cause Uchiha's unable to use it and Someone non Uchiha Hatake is Using it unfairly :|

This is war! There is no fair and unfair in war. There is just you kill or be killed!

 

[123fire]

Those are butthurt ignore them

 

[SuperChief]

I'm not a particularly big fan of the Uchiha and I tend to argue a lot with their fanboys, but it doesn't take an Uchiha fan to think this is f-cking stupid. Which it is.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Because they were all under the assumption that it was exclusive to Indra's reincarnations, EMS and Rinnegan Bearers, those with Hashirama or Hagoromo's chakra, etc, which held no evidence.