[Discussion] Why does everyone think Marineford WB>Admiral?

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More like WB couldn't defeat Akainu if he took him head on. He had to ambush him. And yes, WB did stop Akainu... for 10 mins. WB didn't hit him more because he couldn't. Akainu had done his part too. Why else didn't he finish off someone who had killed his son? And WB's temporary halt of Akainu's rampage didn't last long, he still owned the rest of the WB pirates combined.
Look what happened to this fly trying to stop Akainu, the supposed first mate to WB himself.
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Its okay for Akainu to hit WB when he is on the ground holding his chest but its not okay for WB to hit Akainu from the back. Thats what COO is for WB gave Akainu enough time to move bro he didn't an he got quaked punch. Plot saved Akainu I'm saying what if WB didn't let Akainu roll in that hole. What if he decided he wasn't going to spare Akainu life

I feel like it was so obvious that WB was stronger than Akainu. An don't dare compare WB to Marco thats like comparing Bepo to Law.............
 

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WB can still defeat any admiral in a 1v1 situation. Heck he would struggle more with Garp than any of the three admirals. No, the admirals aren't the same in strength. Sure some can defeat other opponents a lot more efficiently and effectively if they have the elemental advantage. Yeah it doesn't take away from the fact that Akainu defeated Aokiji, who both are superior to Kizaru. Yes Kuzan is a better fighter but he still lost to Akainu. Kizaru is overrated; he can be countered with observation haki which takes away the biggest asset to his ability: speed.


Akainu can defeat Kizaru. (high-extreme diff.)


It doesn't take away from the fact that WB>Akainu during that fight. I mean WB could of easily "killed" Akainu during his first encounter but where's the fun in that? Oda usually has major fights near the end of the arc. Well idk about extreme diff. but I think WB will win high-diff. if he fought an admiral. Akainu still couldn't kill WB after he sent a magma fist through his chest cause WB is a tank. You also have to take that into account if you're going to place them in a 1v1 fight. WB is extremely tanky which means Akainu has to place a lot more blows on WB than WB has to place on him.



ikr Sanji is badass. Oda needs to give him more moments to shine though; hopefully during the Big Mom encounter we'll see something.

I am not sure if Akainu can defeat Kizaru, although it would be a photo finish either way.

Even Prime WB can't kill Akainu 'easily'. WB is a tank, but Akainu DF plays an important role in the fight, because if Akainu can connect one, he can burn off WB entire face. I doubt he can tank that. Someone like Kizaru will have to shoot him a lot to kill him. And let's not forget Akainu si somewhat a tank himself. He took the full brunt of WB's wrath and got a up a few minutes later to keep fighting with the same intensity like nothing really happened. His fighting ability was still unhindered.

Oh boy, what is Sanji upto? Something tells me he has a major fight coming up...

Its okay for Akainu to hit WB when he is on the ground holding his chest but its not okay for WB to hit Akainu from the back. Thats what COO is for WB gave Akainu enough time to move bro he didn't an he got quaked punch. Plot saved Akainu I'm saying what if WB didn't let Akainu roll in that hole. What if he decided he wasn't going to spare Akainu life

I feel like it was so obvious that WB was stronger than Akainu. An don't dare compare WB to Marco thats like comparing Bepo to Law.............

I never said it was okay for Akainu to punch WB like that. Akainu was always like that though. WB, on the other hand, was an honourable man despite being a pirate. I'm sure he knew it is better to catch Akainu off-guard than to face him head on.
WB didn't 'decide' to spare Akainu? Why on earth would he spare Akainu, the man who brutally killed his son? That makes no sense whatsoever. WB couldn't kill Akainu then becuase he was unable to move, much like against BB. Akainu had also done his job well.
I never compared WB and Marco, I just meant that WB didn't really do enough damage, because he couldn't even weaken Akainu enough for his entire crew to take down together.
 

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I am not sure if Akainu can defeat Kizaru, although it would be a photo finish either way.
It's just my opinion.
Even Prime WB can't kill Akainu 'easily'.
No one can kill an admiral easily. I would say Prime WB would mid-diff. Akainu.

WB is a tank, but Akainu DF plays an important role in the fight, because if Akainu can connect one, he can burn off WB entire face. I doubt he can tank that. Someone like Kizaru will have to shoot him a lot to kill him. And let's not forget Akainu si somewhat a tank himself. He took the full brunt of WB's wrath and got a up a few minutes later to keep fighting with the same intensity like nothing really happened. His fighting ability was still unhindered.
So? WB can send a earthquake to his skull which is also an instant kill. Look, Akainu is heavily protected by plot during that fight that's why he never died. BUT he did lose the fight to WB. WB was able to send him flying with one punch. You fail to realize how heavily protected Akainu is by plot. If you're so serious about this go send in an SBS to Oda. I'm 100% certain he will say WB can kill any of the admirals (1v1 fight). Akainu shouldn't have been able to take WB's hit like that, especially that final blow.
 

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It's just my opinion.

No one can kill an admiral easily. I would say Prime WB would mid-diff. Akainu.


So? WB can send a earthquake to his skull which is also an instant kill. Look, Akainu is heavily protected by plot during that fight that's why he never died. BUT he did lose the fight to WB. WB was able to send him flying with one punch. You fail to realize how heavily protected Akainu is by plot. If you're so serious about this go send in an SBS to Oda. I'm 100% certain he will say WB can kill any of the admirals (1v1 fight). Akainu shouldn't have been able to take WB's hit like that, especially that final blow.

Umm, you're the one who said WB could have easily killed Akainu. :what:

Theoretically, WB could. But so could Akainu, so he doesn't need more blows do defeat WB. WB got his face burned off! He seems to be protected by plot too. Why not? WB can take hundreds of bullets and sword stabs but Akainu can't? When Akainu takes it, oh it's plot. Yet you forget it's plot WB survived long enough to fight Akainu again too. EVERYTHING that happens, whether it was meant to originally happen or not, did happen because of 'plot'. SO please stop saying "it's plot that Akainu survived." Akainu survived and fought on like nothing happened to overwhelm the entire WB Pirates. That's a fact, whether it's plot or not.
 

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In all honesty Kizaru couldve killed whitebeard right then and there if he spammed the shit out of his lasers and what not , whitebeard could not catch him. Hes lucky kizaru only used a single simple laser.

Whitebeard is again lucky Garp did not really fight. Garp wouldve destroyed him since hes sick and Garp is still 100% healthy and is the king of armaments haki.

anyway stop overrating the mothafukr. whitebeard is not that strong. shanks would easily defeat this guy. one handed vs 2 hands of the so called worlds strongest man? cmon dude. we already saw it.
 

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Old WB is not stronger than an admiral.

The skirmish between Aokiji and WB was interrupted. Neither could damage the other. Aokiji was shattered and WB was frozen. Both recovered. Jozu stalls Aokiji then. Kizaru was stalled by Marco. Later Kizaru did take on WB.

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This was an even fight. Later Kizaru shoots WB when he looks away for a second.

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Whitebeard has to fight Kizaru with full power or he will get destroyed.

WB vs Akainu. The most misinterpreted fight.

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WB when in the middle of a fit.

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The last confrontation.

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Although WB manages to TEMPORARILY stop Akainu (he was later seen fighting against the entire WB pirates and coming out on top), at what cost? At the cost of a significant portion of his face. A wound that would be life threatening. This was after he ambushed Akainu too. A careless and sloppy fighting style like that only made matters worse for WB.

Rayleigh too easily fought on par with Kizaru. Yet everyone keeps saying WB is above admirals and some go as far as too say he could stalemate 2 admirals. Seriously.

Conclusion: Despite his OP DF, WB is about the same as Rayleigh and the admirals. Prime WB and Prime Rayleigh are above, though. Although they still can't handle 2 admirals, I would say.


at the time.......................who was the strongest man on the planet?

if you can answer that, you will know there is no point for this thread hahahaha
 

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This is why I absolutely loath this abomination called vs threads. Many of the creators always think they understand the characters they're are talking about better than anyone, especially when they want to go against the mainstream perception of how a fight between characters would end up. And still they are completely oblivious to understanding of the most fundamental concept of such a discussion: context. Everything in a manga happens in a certain context that will decide how things will go and this context is not by default one that pits two characters against each other for the sake of seeing who is the strongest.

Get a reality check, it's a fact that even old, sickly WB could beat each admiral individually. He might be deadly injured afterwards and/or if the three admirals would team up together, they might beat him or have a stalemate, but it's nonsensical on all levels that a single one could beat WB. Then you are disregarding the entire context or in other words you are creating an artificial situation from your own imagination loosely based on OP, but one that does not correspond with the reality that is OP.

Context: Kong, Sengoku, Shanks...all off them acknowledged WB as being superior or that he definitely could bring down the entire marine HQ. They needed 3 admirals and 7 Shichibukai to balance out the power of the 4 Yonkou of which WB was considered the strongest, the man closest to OP and the one who could go toe to toe with Gol D Roger, the Pirate King. They assembled 5 Shichibukai, the 3 admirals, the fleet admiral, countless of vice admirals and a 100 000 man strong army just for him and even then Sengoku believed that, in terms of shear power, he could wipe them all out. On top of that you had BB, at that point a Shichibukai, + 4 or 5 IP level 5 inmates, people that are pretty much Shichibukai level class fighters, in the mix. And even after all that he made them go through hell, nearly breaking the island in half and even making both BB as Sengoku nearly crap their pants... and then you say that one admiral would have been enough to beat him. That's a laughable joke. People aren't overestimating WB, what you are actually saying is that Oda himself is overestimating his own character =/

You don't even need to start listing any specific battle scenes to be sure about this, the way how Oda wrote the character WB alone is enough to confirm this fact. Makes a lot of sense, we gather the most powerful army in the world, we let our HQ island, a centuries old stronghold, nearly be wiped out of the face of the planet, but while we even had no less than 3 admirals present, only one would have been sufficient to beat him. Read the story and don't make up your own.

And when you do start looking at specific battle scenes, following the correct context, that WB is more powerful only becomes that more obvious. WB wasn't there to fight one on one battles, for the duration of most of the fight he fought the entire island. His objective was to free Ace and after he died, he wanted to have as much people of his crew survive and put an end to this era with his death. He wasn't aiming at one on one fights nor the deaths of particular marines. The marines on the other hand wanted to kill both Ace and WB. There's a clear difference in perspective.

WB rarely attacked any of the marines in particular, he went rampaging blasting them away by the hundreds, cleaving the island in half and reducing the HQ nearly to a pile of rubble. In most cases it were the marines who attacked him, but neither Kizaru nor Aokiji were even able to remain close to him for a long period of time. The only times I can remember that WB actually initiated an assault on an individual was on Akainu to stop him, successfully, from interfering with Luffy saving Ace and on Akainu after he killed Ace, where he utterly defeated him in two hits. It's hilarious you call that an ambush when Akainu burned a huge hole in WB chest when he was coughing up blood because of his illness, but WB was beyond all doubt the victor there. That Akainu survived doesn't even matter as WB wasn't busy with seeing who is the strongest of us two. Even if he wanted to kill Akainu for kiling Ace, after Akainu fell into the crevice, there was no reason for him to start thinking about things like 'maybe I should jump after him, he might still be alive' as his objective was to get his crew out. There was no reason for WB to waste anymore time on him. Akainu only crawled out of his hole after WB already died, battlewise those 10 minutes you call it are eons. WB beat Akainu there, otherwise he could have just stood up after WB 2nd hit, no? That he survived the attack doesn't matter squat, the fact that for a brief moment WB was focused on Akainu and that he beat him out of commission for a while and then focused again on fighting the entire army, only confirms that WB is stronger.
*gets beaten horribly by WB, waits till he dies and then pops up again fighting* "hahaha, I'm stronger than WB!". Makes freaking sense.

In a hypothetical fight were WB is only fighting Akainu, what chance does Akainu have when WB already took him down with two hits while he was already mortally wounded and had been fighting an army? None as if his objective was to have Akainu dead for certain, he wouldn't change his attention to other stuff after the 2nd hit. It's ludicrous how you see that as Akainu being equal to WB. In the best of cases he might succeed in mortally wounding WB again, but he himself would have kicked the bucket first. For most of the fight the three admirals focused on fighting individual battles, WB on the other hand was pretty much fighting everyone.

Not to mention at a certain point they needed the combined forces of all 3 marine admirals to stop a single massive attack of WB, a similar attack WB used as the 2nd hit on Akainu, which he was completely unable to block and then fell into a crevice cursing WB....surely the attitude of a winner. If he could win of Akainu, then he also can win of Aokiji and Kizaru as the differences in strength aren't that big between the three of them.

It's a hardcore fact that WB, even old and sick, is more powerful than any admiral individual. Both the context provided as the battles fought prove that. But no doubt you are still going to react on it and claim that you are right, completely ignoring the facts, and blablabla. I so hate these threads. In 90% of the cases there isn't even a clear answer as the involved characters never fought in a series, but still people are going to say they can and in the cases, like this one, it's certain how they end up, there are people going to claim it's not true.

WB is stronger, face the facts, otherwise the entire Marine Ford arc doesn't make sense.
 

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at the time.......................who was the strongest man on the planet?

if you can answer that, you will know there is no point for this thread hahahaha

At that time? Probably Shanks. Kaido comes close too. I just answered it. There is point for this thread.

This is why I absolutely loath this abomination called vs threads. Many of the creators always think they understand the characters they're are talking about better than anyone, especially when they want to go against the mainstream perception of how a fight between characters would end up. And still they are completely oblivious to understanding of the most fundamental concept of such a discussion: context. Everything in a manga happens in a certain context that will decide how things will go and this context is not by default one that pits two characters against each other for the sake of seeing who is the strongest.

Get a reality check, it's a fact that even old, sickly WB could beat each admiral individually. He might be deadly injured afterwards and/or if the three admirals would team up together, they might beat him or have a stalemate, but it's nonsensical on all levels that a single one could beat WB. Then you are disregarding the entire context or in other words you are creating an artificial situation from your own imagination loosely based on OP, but one that does not correspond with the reality that is OP.

Context: Kong, Sengoku, Shanks...all off them acknowledged WB as being superior or that he definitely could bring down the entire marine HQ. They needed 3 admirals and 7 Shichibukai to balance out the power of the 4 Yonkou of which WB was considered the strongest, the man closest to OP and the one who could go toe to toe with Gol D Roger, the Pirate King. They assembled 5 Shichibukai, the 3 admirals, the fleet admiral, countless of vice admirals and a 100 000 man strong army just for him and even then Sengoku believed that, in terms of shear power, he could wipe them all out. On top of that you had BB, at that point a Shichibukai, + 4 or 5 IP level 5 inmates, people that are pretty much Shichibukai level class fighters, in the mix. And even after all that he made them go through hell, nearly breaking the island in half and even making both BB as Sengoku nearly crap their pants... and then you say that one admiral would have been enough to beat him. That's a laughable joke. People aren't overestimating WB, what you are actually saying is that Oda himself is overestimating his own character =/

You don't even need to start listing any specific battle scenes to be sure about this, the way how Oda wrote the character WB alone is enough to confirm this fact. Makes a lot of sense, we gather the most powerful army in the world, we let our HQ island, a centuries old stronghold, nearly be wiped out of the face of the planet, but while we even had no less than 3 admirals present, only one would have been sufficient to beat him. Read the story and don't make up your own.

And when you do start looking at specific battle scenes, following the correct context, that WB is more powerful only becomes that more obvious. WB wasn't there to fight one on one battles, for the duration of most of the fight he fought the entire island. His objective was to free Ace and after he died, he wanted to have as much people of his crew survive and put an end to this era with his death. He wasn't aiming at one on one fights nor the deaths of particular marines. The marines on the other hand wanted to kill both Ace and WB. There's a clear difference in perspective.

WB rarely attacked any of the marines in particular, he went rampaging blasting them away by the hundreds, cleaving the island in half and reducing the HQ nearly to a pile of rubble. In most cases it were the marines who attacked him, but neither Kizaru nor Aokiji were even able to remain close to him for a long period of time. The only times I can remember that WB actually initiated an assault on an individual was on Akainu to stop him, successfully, from interfering with Luffy saving Ace and on Akainu after he killed Ace, where he utterly defeated him in two hits. It's hilarious you call that an ambush when Akainu burned a huge hole in WB chest when he was coughing up blood because of his illness, but WB was beyond all doubt the victor there. That Akainu survived doesn't even matter as WB wasn't busy with seeing who is the strongest of us two. Even if he wanted to kill Akainu for kiling Ace, after Akainu fell into the crevice, there was no reason for him to start thinking about things like 'maybe I should jump after him, he might still be alive' as his objective was to get his crew out. There was no reason for WB to waste anymore time on him. Akainu only crawled out of his hole after WB already died, battlewise those 10 minutes you call it are eons. WB beat Akainu there, otherwise he could have just stood up after WB 2nd hit, no? That he survived the attack doesn't matter squat, the fact that for a brief moment WB was focused on Akainu and that he beat him out of commission for a while and then focused again on fighting the entire army, only confirms that WB is stronger.
*gets beaten horribly by WB, waits till he dies and then pops up again fighting* "hahaha, I'm stronger than WB!". Makes freaking sense.

In a hypothetical fight were WB is only fighting Akainu, what chance does Akainu have when WB already took him down with two hits while he was already mortally wounded and had been fighting an army? None as if his objective was to have Akainu dead for certain, he wouldn't change his attention to other stuff after the 2nd hit. It's ludicrous how you see that as Akainu being equal to WB. In the best of cases he might succeed in mortally wounding WB again, but he himself would have kicked the bucket first. For most of the fight the three admirals focused on fighting individual battles, WB on the other hand was pretty much fighting everyone.

Not to mention at a certain point they needed the combined forces of all 3 marine admirals to stop a single massive attack of WB, a similar attack WB used as the 2nd hit on Akainu, which he was completely unable to block and then fell into a crevice cursing WB....surely the attitude of a winner. If he could win of Akainu, then he also can win of Aokiji and Kizaru as the differences in strength aren't that big between the three of them.

It's a hardcore fact that WB, even old and sick, is more powerful than any admiral individual. Both the context provided as the battles fought prove that. But no doubt you are still going to react on it and claim that you are right, completely ignoring the facts, and blablabla. I so hate these threads. In 90% of the cases there isn't even a clear answer as the involved characters never fought in a series, but still people are going to say they can and in the cases, like this one, it's certain how they end up, there are people going to claim it's not true.

WB is stronger, face the facts, otherwise the entire Marine Ford arc doesn't make sense.

WB was the strongest man in his prime. He was called that in his prime and the name stuck. It no longer holds true in his old age. Old WB is not stronger than the Yonko and maybe even Garp. It's not a hardcore fact that WB is stronger than admiral, show me a scan please, if you can that is.
The marines didn't know that WB had gotten way out of shape and was no longer the same. (And I actually show scans to back up what I say)

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Both Mr. 0 and Marco confirm this.

Akainu vs WB I have explained countless times already, which I'm sure you've already read, so I'm not going to bother again.

The Marineford Arc doesn't make sense? For argument's sake let's believe WB is in his prime. So now it makes sense? Wow. Do you know how many admiral level or close to admiral level fighters there were in MF then? Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru, Garp, Sengoku, Mihawk, DD, Kuma, Hancock + all VA. It was a mismatch to begin with. WB was always going to his death. He's just 1 Yonko and the only one in his crew capable of stopping most of the characters I listed, Marco, Vista and Jozu arguably might.
So let's not try to make 'sense' out of MF Arc that way.
You started your argument off well, but then you just started imposing your opinion, masquerading it as 'facts'.
 

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So by you saying Akainu is stronger than WB your calling Akainu the Worlds strongest man right
 

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So by you saying Akainu is stronger than WB your calling Akainu the Worlds strongest man right

:NO: I have maintained from the word go that Old WB=Admiral. Please don't lose track. Shanks probably was the strongest at the time.
 

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WB is stronger because he basically one-shotted an Admiral while being heavily injured
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:NO: I have maintained from the word go that Old WB=Admiral. Please don't lose track. Shanks probably was the strongest at the time.

How can you be equal to an admiral if you beat and admiral. Your only argumument is he got back up. But I can argue the same thing with Bellamy he was one shotted by Luffy but did that keep him down no...but who won the fight Luffy
 

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WB is stronger because he basically one-shotted an Admiral while being heavily injured
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He ambushed an admiral and still got half of his face burned off to temporarily stop Akainu's rampage. Akainu got up 10 mins later to overpower the entire WB Pirates single handedly. Looks like WB didn't really hurt Akainu much to me. Couldn't even stop Akainu from hurting his crew.
 

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He ambushed an admiral and still got half of his face burned off to temporarily stop Akainu's rampage. Akainu got up 10 mins later to overpower the entire WB Pirates single handedly. Looks like WB didn't really hurt Akainu much to me. Couldn't even stop Akainu from hurting his crew.

[video=youtube;uhHXiUHiS0U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhHXiUHiS0U[/video]

Didn't Bellamy get up 10 minutes after Luffy hit him....so didn't we consider that a defeat for Luffy......Akainu got one shotted bro just live with it.....Only you are defending Akainu
 

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[video=youtube;uhHXiUHiS0U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhHXiUHiS0U[/video]

Didn't Bellamy get up 10 minutes after Luffy hit him....so didn't we consider that a defeat for Luffy......Akainu got one shotted bro just live with it.....Only you are defending Akainu


Except Luffy challenged Bellamy and faced him from the front. And Bellamy was out cold.

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I don't know what you wanted to prove with that video.
 

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Except Luffy challenged Bellamy and faced him from the front. And Bellamy was out cold.

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I don't know what you wanted to prove with that video.

I'm trying to prove that if a man is not unable to stand right after you hit him that counts a loss. Regarding WB he didn't attack Akainu from the back during the last hit when he threw him in the air..and that counts as a loss because Akainu couldn't get up right away and only survived because of plot
 

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I'm trying to prove that if a man is not unable to stand right after you hit him that counts a loss. Regarding WB he didn't attack Akainu from the back during the last hit when he threw him in the air..and that counts as a loss because Akainu couldn't get up right away and only survived because of plot

Refer to the canon manga.

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He ambushed Akainu and Akainu just had enough time to get in one hit before he attacked again.
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Luffy was down for more than enough time for Lucci to kill Luffy. Who won that fight? That's right. And no sneak attacks here either.
I'll say it again: Stop using the word 'plot' to disregard anything you didn't want to happen in the manga. It did happen. Accept it. I could say WB should have died instantly when his face was blown off and survived because of 'plot'.
 

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I know, I was watching again the reiliygh vs kizaru yesterday, IT SEEMS LIKE AGE REALLY F*CKS PEOPLE ON OP.
 

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I know, I was watching again the reiliygh vs kizaru yesterday, IT SEEMS LIKE AGE REALLY F*CKS PEOPLE ON OP.

Indeed. Perhaps Rayleigh would also have had to resort to a suicidal attack to beat Kizaru since Kizaru could outlast him.
 
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