Why does everyone assume Ay is weak towards genjutsu ?
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Dęvîa Puęrî
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I know tht totally pisses me off espcially when oro got out of sasukes sharigan genjutsu so easily despite being on his death bed...
Dęvîa Puęrî
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What feint he was distracted by his team member not a clone or what ever ur trying to say if anyone tried to do that they or the clone would b blitzed .. Explain how this feint would work cuz I'm not following only reason Ay stopped is because he cared about his teammate not something madara did but of tsuande . Which is not a feint it is just compassion for his teammate which he wouldn't have none to worry about in this discussion there for he wouldn't stop his assault or dodging etc if a clone was to appear assuming ur talking itachi seeing as he's the only one tht really uses genjutsu and clones mix what is stopping Ay from just blitzing the clone or throwing lighting at it (yes he can tech throw lighting because he was able to
Put lighting in water dragon is it a Jutsu we dnt know but we know he can conjur up lighting other then his lighting release...)
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The first time oro was trying to take his body there was no fight no one did any tech ppl forget tht itachi was using binding genjutsu u shouldn't be able to move in that but orochimaru was which is why itachi cut off his hand cuz oro was about to dispel it ... Which is stupid because any physical damage done to body while inside genjutsu still wakes the person out of the genjutsu (shikamaru breaking his bone or lip ifk which one)
Ppl hype over this fact but forget that oro was about to dispel it
As for the 2nd time orochimaru last time I checked is still alive also oro thought it was normal sword not sealing sword ...... And oro was in hydra form how can u miss slashing something that big u act like he caught orochimaru in slither mode or something
Tht blade has no speed feats it sealed a bijuu size creature and a crippled person being mind controled that's it ...
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I think people are forgetting that Madara used 5 Susanoo per Kage in that fight...if it was 1 on 1 and he didn't have comrades to look after he would not have gotten caught in that genjutsu. I don't think A is too fast to be caught in a genjutsu, but for someone of his caliber experience, it shouldn't be as easy as Madara made it in a 1 on 1 fight.
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Dęvîa Puęrî
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Thank u Atleast u understand that Ay didn't get soloed by genjutsu he got soloed by caring about his comrades ....
Also i didn't say can't be caught in genjutsu I'm just saying he's not weak against it ... His speed counteres a lot genjutsu this thread is just because ppl just keep saying Ay will simply get caught jn genjutsu ... When that isn't the case madara used multiple Susannos and when he did catch Ay it wasn't because he actually caught Ay it was because Ay stopped what he was doing to try to say something to tsuande ..
Dęvîa Puęrî
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Why would Ay sit there after seeing it was a clone made up of crows... Itachi has to manifest his Susanno and get to Ay ...
Unless ur saying he just magically appears right next to Ay after the clone disperses while Ay does nothing ?
Also in ur version did itachi already have a clone set up or was Ay just watching anime while itachi was making clones ?
Once Ay see's crows he wouldn't just stay in same spot and he has reflexes that dodges Susanno so I personally think right after he sees the crows he will realize it was a fake and just move out of place to prepare for incoming trap . Ur opinion and my opinion differ but u make it seem so easy to catch him when it's not no one bar minato has really caught Ay when he's at his full speed (not including jubbi jins etc current sasuke) all I'm saying is Ay won't just sit there after finding out that that was a clone ...
The only reason he stayed in place against madara was because of tsuande he was worried about her in this situation there is no such distraction available to stop him in his tracks for that long
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The Necromancer
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Because Itachi has blitzed a Sage Mode user with the same feint who is far faster at reacting than Ay, and Itachi's seal speed and clone production speeds surpass the sharingan's ability to follow.
Manga also says that itachi is a failure and that he is weaker then jiriaya.... If you spouting manga as truth will you also accept these as truth? Especially given both were stated by itachi himself.
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Ok I'll give u that as far as his seal speed but when was kabuto stated to have reaction speeds faster then Ay last time I checked Ay dodged Amatratsu reacting towards it kabuto failed to do so ....?
As far as seal speed he won't be able to do that against someone like Ay who goes straight for taijutsu
Kabuto had 2 uchia to deal with and didn't go into taijutsu from the start of match I think he used Jutsu before doing taijutsu
Itachi's genjutsus...
-Can be activated with only eye contact
-...Especially with mangekyou
So Ay would have to fight him without looking directly into his eyes once
Avoid itachi's finger pointing too while we're at it
While he spends his time fighting crows
Money is on itachi with just his genjutsu
-Can be activated with only eye contact
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So Ay would have to fight him without looking directly into his eyes once
Avoid itachi's finger pointing too while we're at it
While he spends his time fighting crows
Money is on itachi with just his genjutsu
Gold Lightning
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He was worried about Tsuandes well being, Madara then used that to catch him off guard.
When Ay fought Sasuke, he made it pretty clear than Sasuke's sharingan would be ineffective against him.
Not to mention that it was 5 Madara's (with Susanoo) vs just Ay. Madara had to restrain Ay by grabbing him and holding him up right to his face. As long as you don't look directly into a sharingan users eyes, you'll be fine.
When Ay fought Sasuke, he made it pretty clear than Sasuke's sharingan would be ineffective against him.
Not to mention that it was 5 Madara's (with Susanoo) vs just Ay. Madara had to restrain Ay by grabbing him and holding him up right to his face. As long as you don't look directly into a sharingan users eyes, you'll be fine.
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