Why does a female Indiana Jones piss you off?

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I get that it’s cool to be anti feminist. But, why does it piss you off to see a female “anything” .

I know you will say, why don’t they just make their own franchise. Well, because that’s not how tent pole movies work. You create the name brand and then you keep popping out movies with it. It’s just good business.

If you don’t care, that cool.

But, if you do, explain to me why?

Lora craft is not female Indi, why? Because Lora craft is not fun, campy, go lucky. With dumb scenes.
 
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Anti feminism is not cool, especially when it is represented by male chauvinistic guys who end up being exactly the same as feminazi.

I have no problem with a female Indiana Jones, but perhaps that's partly because I've always found the entire franchise to be pretty shallow and boring.
 

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I think certain properties are precious to people and they would rather see a female indiana jones as something original or different like a Lara Croft but not see a female actress replace Harrison Ford.
It's the same if Bond is not British.
It's part of the dna of the character, people would riot if they changed that. But maybe it could work I don't know.
 
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I get that it’s cool to be anti feminist. But, why does it piss you off to see a female “anything” .
I don't think it is that people are angry to see a female. In many cases, men prefer strong female leads. The ideal female in the eyes of most men is a woman who can be an equal partner in their daily work/activities - that means something of a tomboy.

What irritates people is that, in this age of 'feminism' - groups of social predators have seen fit to try and convert every conceivable thing to have a female host, star, cast, crew, etc - with absolutely no concern for the integrity of the role. No one has an issue with a story about ghost busters who are all female. What they have a problem with is that a series with an established lore was taken hostage by a 'movement' that has a history of creating very poor plots and doing poor casting of characters - which was then foisted upon them as a turd endlessly polished by the ball-tonguing media.

Here is the thing about the original Indiana Jones movies. Everyone played their natural roles as human beings. Indi- being the brash young man, was the drive for the plot. He did most of the heavy lifting and was a positive model for many young males. He took care of business. There were women in the story - many of whom played very upstanding and competent roles while supporting the lead character at key moments. Which is precisely how it plays out in the real world in most cases. These women may meet some "ha, a girl!" cracks - and there is usually some kind of crotch-kick moment. Again - because men idealize women as mutual partners for work.

What happens when feminists take these things over is the entire plot typically becomes "men bad, woman good." It's not a show about a woman or women truly being strong and independent - it is always about an escape from a world of persecution that simply does not exist in society - unless you are talking about the Islamic areas, but rewind to the 1950s and most of them were on the same page, too.

I know you will say, why don’t they just make their own franchise. Well, because that’s not how tent pole movies work. You create the name brand and then you keep popping out movies with it. It’s just good business.
Ghost Busters with a female cast:

No reboot (which was ignored in the trailer).
In another city, a group of girls dabbling in the dark arts begin realizing that something is amiss. In their studies, they come across the Ghost Busters (since we have the Internet, now) - and begin a quest to conquer an emerging evil within their city... or perhaps a smaller town setting.

See how that works?

You haven't attempted to replace the originals and have a platform for creating a more natural arrangement of the character cast. Ghost Busters was originally about the comedy - a huckster looking to make money leading, effectively, a washed out research department on a capital venture that turned real. Attempting to recycle this plot into a cast of female characters can be done, but female P.T. Barnums are an extremely rare sight, particularly in academia. You could, perhaps, work with that prompt to construct an alternate start where a woman running a local circus happens across some paranormal researchers and some stuff happens to draw the group into a partnership - but you're still looking at a very different plot.

Likewise with Indiana Jones. As I am not all that familiar with this particular installment, I can't comment as in-depth, but it is typically a 'kiss of death' when feminists take over a project. Mass Effect Andromeda, for example.

Lora craft is not female Indi, why? Because Lora craft is not fun, campy, go lucky. With dumb scenes.
That is debatable.

Though, I would argue Laura Croft is a far more impressive example of a female lead role. Particularly when you take her with the reboot.

Again, maybe they can pull off a good female Indiana Jones. The problem seems to be, however, that these 'feminists' believe they can simply place a woman into a role and adapt their lunch-table jokes or drama into an appropriate format for the show. Again, just as female P.T. Barnum is a rare sight in the real world, so is a female Indiana Jones.

To put it more bluntly, many men can write a competent Indiana Joanna. Many men can write competent female ghost busters. Second and Third wave Feminists, including the soy boys among them, are the victims of a pattern of abuse and have a distorted picture of society and relationships. They are, therefor, incapable of writing engaging character dialogue or coherent plot narratives as they have merely opted to continue the pattern of abuse, rather than treat and overcome it.
 

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I get that it’s cool to be anti feminist. But, why does it piss you off to see a female “anything” .

I know you will say, why don’t they just make their own franchise. Well, because that’s not how tent pole movies work. You create the name brand and then you keep popping out movies with it. It’s just good business.

If you don’t care, that cool.

But, if you do, explain to me why?

Lora craft is not female Indi, why? Because Lora craft is not fun, campy, go lucky. With dumb scenes.
A female indiana jones, wouldn't be an "indiana jones". She'd be someone else.

To me,that idea comes across as "taking credit". Taking someone else's character, then feminizing it, then saying it's better cause it's feminized, is exactly the problem. Butchering males, to uplift the female.Losers.

It'd come across as an insult. It's also sort of "copy catting"...a woman that envies a man.

It's sort of like competing with males, when it should be two separate things, that are great in their own individual rights.And I'm not for females ripping off of male characters and trying to up-show them to make themselves look better. Maybe a female COUNTERPART, but not a female version of a male character. It's so retarded.

The empowerment of a woman, shouldn't involve the emasculation or devalue of a male...that comes across as envy and intimidation, then you retaliating because of it. It's insincere.
 
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I get that it’s cool to be anti feminist. But, why does it piss you off to see a female “anything”.
Because the original character is a male, he is suppose to be a male, not a female...

The only female Indiana Jones i would ever accept would be the wife of Indiana Jones son who chose to change name after they got married.

I know you will say, why don’t they just make their own franchise. Well, because that’s not how tent pole movies work. You create the name brand and then you keep popping out movies with it. It’s just good business.
I don't care if its good buisness, it's ban fanservice, fans care about the canon, the story and the characters in it, changing everything that made the story iconic for no other reason than earning a payday is disgusting.

If you don’t care, that cool.

But, if you do, explain to me why?
I just did.

Lora craft is not female Indi, why? Because Lora craft is not fun, campy, go lucky. With dumb scenes.
how would you feel if they change Lara Croft in to a male?
 

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Because why remake something that doesn't need a remake in any form? It just seems forced, and a movie like that is doomed to flop, much like the Ghostbusters remake.
 
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