Why do you think the 2nd developed Edo Tensei?

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He would have to sacrifice someone living to bring back someone dead. Are we to assume because he is a "good guy" that maybe he used enemy ninja as sacrifices?

It still doesn't seem like a technique that a "good guy" would develop. Everyone, even the villains, think it's an "unforgiveable" technique. Again, not what you'd expect from a good guy. And who's genetic material did he have/who did he bring back?

And if his version was not perfected as Kabuto and others have claimed, how was it different?

The only reason I can think of that he'd create Edo Tensei is maybe to talk to the 1st, but again he'd have to kill someone to do it.

What do you all think?
 

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He developed it to protect the village. It's a cruel world out there, mate.
 

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Madara already said it was originally created to wipe the battlefield clean, killing all the enemies.
 

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Probably for when clans used to war against each other. I think Tobirama and the Senju probably captured other clan members during battles and would use their body as a host to revive the Senju members that died in battle. Seems a little far off but it's just a thought.
 

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Well if Zetsu is as old as we all think then he could have made a spore from him to use as the sacrifice.
 

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chiyo said "this edo tensei is even more advance then the one used by the 2nd hokage" So that means she has seen it. So It is likely he used it in battle but I assume he used enemy shinobi theres no way he used people from his village
 

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i always believed that izuna was a good guy and tobirama was bad....
And their brothers......other way around
 

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He would have to sacrifice someone living to bring back someone dead. Are we to assume because he is a "good guy" that maybe he used enemy ninja as sacrifices?

It still doesn't seem like a technique that a "good guy" would develop. Everyone, even the villains, think it's an "unforgiveable" technique. Again, not what you'd expect from a good guy. And who's genetic material did he have/who did he bring back?

And if his version was not perfected as Kabuto and others have claimed, how was it different?

The only reason I can think of that he'd create Edo Tensei is maybe to talk to the 1st, but again he'd have to kill someone to do it.

What do you all think?

It is true that Tobirama had developed the Unholy resurrection jutsu or edo tensei, however his version had been far unfinished in comparison to the others as you have said, and I am certain it had not been purposely developed the way it had been for merely with the idea or immediate perception or knowledge that it would come at such morbid costs.
 

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We will find out soon. Just wait :)
 

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I dont think it is all that cruel especially considering that it may not need a soul or living human to use it, that is just how kabuto used it. Perhaps the 2nd found a way to revive people, much like orochimaru's, that didnt require a living body. If that was the case it wouldnt be cruel at all but just annoying for the person being summoned.

Secondly he was the hokage and it is his job to protect the village, if someone had died that had very vital information then it would be very usefull to be able to revive them in order to get that information, for instance he only became hokage after the 1st died, perhaps there was something the 1st knew that he needed to know or maybe it was someone else who knows, I think it was meant more for retreiving intel from someone who had died than i was for using he undead in battle as being able to use powerful undead ninja is an insanely powerful jutsu, one so powerful that it would make the other villages feel at risk and so they would team up to destroy konoha just as they did with the uzimaki village. The 2nd understood he risks of such a jutsu and knew how easily it could be used improperly and thus made it a forbidden jutsu.
 

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I dont think it is all that cruel especially considering that it may not need a soul or living human to use it, that is just how kabuto used it. Perhaps the 2nd found a way to revive people, much like orochimaru's, that didnt require a living body. If that was the case it wouldnt be cruel at all but just annoying for the person being summoned.

Secondly he was the hokage and it is his job to protect the village, if someone had died that had very vital information then it would be very usefull to be able to revive them in order to get that information, for instance he only became hokage after the 1st died, perhaps there was something the 1st knew that he needed to know or maybe it was someone else who knows, I think it was meant more for retreiving intel from someone who had died than i was for using he undead in battle as being able to use powerful undead ninja is an insanely powerful jutsu, one so powerful that it would make the other villages feel at risk and so they would team up to destroy konoha just as they did with the uzimaki village. The 2nd understood he risks of such a jutsu and knew how easily it could be used improperly and thus made it a forbidden jutsu.

makes sense. thanks
 

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He would have to sacrifice someone living to bring back someone dead. Are we to assume because he is a "good guy" that maybe he used enemy ninja as sacrifices?

It still doesn't seem like a technique that a "good guy" would develop. Everyone, even the villains, think it's an "unforgiveable" technique. Again, not what you'd expect from a good guy. And who's genetic material did he have/who did he bring back?

And if his version was not perfected as Kabuto and others have claimed, how was it different?

The only reason I can think of that he'd create Edo Tensei is maybe to talk to the 1st, but again he'd have to kill someone to do it.

What do you all think?

I think the goal was to develop a jutsu that could revive the dead in a way similar to Rinne Tensei.

In the theme of the show - if one could resurrect the dead, one could put a stop to the cycle of attack and retaliation. Edo Tensei was, likely, Tobirama's attempt to find a solution to Nagato's question (much like Infinite Tsukuyomi is an attempt by Madara/Obito to answer it).

Perhaps the Zetsu were supposed to be a crucial part of facilitating such a jutsu - but the idea scrapped by Tobirama after he could not resolve issues with the jutsu that put it in conflict with ethical/moral tenets. Perhaps because he could not overcome the fact that the user of the jutsu had control over other individuals. Perhaps because the resurrected were quite ashen and dead-looking. Likely a combination of all the above.

That said - the abilities of the jutsu make it an effective weapon if need be. And that's possibly what led to it being labeled a forbidden jutsu - as we can see in the case of Kabuto, one can potentially wield a great number of revived ninja of great power and unlimited chakra (curious to know where that comes from). It's simply too convenient and too powerful for one person (let alone a few) to be running around with.

... But it seems it's become something of a Pandora's Box.

I can see the revival of the Uzumaki clan being a priority of the allied nations following the war... restoring their sealing techniques (that, ironically, were once feared) would be quite useful in making sure that the dead stay that way. Given that much of the war was made possible by Kabuto and Edo Tensei - it would stand to reason that many clans would be interested in making sure that their passed members can rest knowing that they will not be able to be used in such a manner (provided the Uzumaki develop some kind of seal that is incredibly difficult to crack open).

Though I may be getting a bit ahead of myself, there.
 
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