[Discussion] Why do you think Madara has not used Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu or his own unique doujutsu?

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Unless I read wrong, Itachi and Sasuke stated Susano'o can only be awakened by those who have unlocked Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu in both Mangekyou. However, though Madara has shown his Susano'o numerous times, he has never cast Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu. Instead, he used a base genjutsu on A by the looks of it and a very strong katon. He has also failed to show a one of a kind doujutsu like kamui or Koto Amatsukami. Nevertheless, he plans to cast a Tsukuyomi on the whole world.

Why do you think this is?

He found them unnecessary?

He does not have them after all?

Could Rinbou Hengoku be his one of a kind doujutsu?

He did not unlock a one of a kind doujutsu?

His one of a kind doujutsu could be Enton:Kagutsuchi like Sasuke since he was Indra's reincarnation?

Kishimoto believed he was already too overpowered?
 

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Maybe he doesn't know Amaterasu exists.
 

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Unless I read wrong, Itachi and Sasuke stated Susano'o can only be awakened by those who have unlocked Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu in both Mangekyou.

Itachi said you need amaterasu and tsukuyomi
Sasuke said you need to awaken both MS
 

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Because Madara, is in a different league to begin with.
In the academy!
 

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This is the main argument Sasuke fanboys use. They say Sasuke can solo Madara because he does not have Amaterasu and cannot dodge it. Obviously he can use both of them. There was never a time in the manga/anime that he needed to use it so he just didn't.
 

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Kishi doesn't like to re-use techniques amongst his Doujutsu users. He prefers most characters keep a unique style (Susano'o being an obvious exception). Kishi doesn't want Sasuke using Tsukuyomi, or Itachi using Enton, or Madara using summons/robotic limbs/using Human Realm to suck out souls.

It's the same reason Nagato apparently wasn't aware he could use Susano'o, despite using the same eyes as Madara (although the Susano'o might not be tied specifically to the eyes, considering Madara used it without eyes.
 

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He does posses it... but when you posses perfect susano'o and God like fire tech's who need amateasu any more and when you split 2 mountains in half and make 2 meteorites fall out the sky S-Rank ninjutsu necomes irrelevant...some dragon ball z type shit
 

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-Madara doesn't have Tsukiyomi, a unique genjutsu, or Amaterasu.
-Every Uchiha we've seen has been different. Obito/Shisui unlocked only one tech (Kamui/KA).
-It was also stated that it was rare for MS users to even awaken susanno.
-Itachi may have just referencing been himself and Sasuke, considering that he used the word "you" in his comment regarding the three powers and was just making the logical assumption that since he himself had those 3 powers, then his blood-related brother would as well.

Madara isn't relying on himself specifically to cast infinite Tsukiyomi. He's relying on the flower to bloom, reflect it off the moon in order for it to work. His own eyes are not formulating it exactly.
 
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Rinbo might be his unique technique. I am of the mind you need ama and tsuk to get susanoo, but we haven't seen him use either so IDK. But I think rinbo could also be rinnegan specific.
 

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Why use amaterasu when you can cast a meteor or use wood elemental?

Really though, madara doesn't use those techniques because kishi is the one telling the story. it's like saying why did naruto use jutsu 1 when he could have used jutsu 2? and so on and so forth.

Pointless thread /next
 

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Kishi doesn't like to re-use techniques amongst his Doujutsu users. He prefers most characters keep a unique style (Susano'o being an obvious exception). Kishi doesn't want Sasuke using Tsukuyomi, or Itachi using Enton, or Madara using summons/robotic limbs/using Human Realm to suck out souls.

It's the same reason Nagato apparently wasn't aware he could use Susano'o, despite using the same eyes as Madara (although the Susano'o might not be tied specifically to the eyes, considering Madara used it without eyes.

I don't know. This is pretty subjective. Madara, Itachi and Sasuke have all used their own magatama beads as well. All of them as well as Kakashi have also used the copy jutsu and base genjutsus. There's also Izanagi that danzou and Obito used, as well as a number of other uchiha according to Itachi. Madara has also used the Deva and Preta paths and I believe he can't use the paths at the moment because he does not possess both Rinnegans. Neji and Hnata's byakugans possess the same techniques as well. 360 degree vision, transparent vision, 64 palms, rotation, air palm, etc.
 
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