Why Do Some People Think Madara Is Weak?

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Madara cannot be killed, he needs to be sealed, Naruto and Sasuke needs eachother to do so, they cannot defeat him no matter what they do, he is immortal.

This retard though because he is dead.
 

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Why do some of you people believe that either Naruto or Sasuke by themselves is above Madara? It just doesn't make sense. Even without the ten-tails, he is somewhat above each of them.

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He doesn't have Two Unknown Mangekyou techniques and as long as Naruto is Kurama's Jin, the sealing contract is a moot ability. And he doesn't have dimensional shifting. The recent datebook confirmed that it takes so much chakra to use even once that only Kaguya is able to use it.
 

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He doesn't have Two Unknown Mangekyou techniques and as long as Naruto is Kurama's Jin, the sealing contract is a moot ability. And he doesn't have dimensional shifting. The recent datebook confirmed that it takes so much chakra to use even once that only Kaguya is able to use it.

You need two mangekyou abilities to unlock Susano'o, derp. And attempting to summon Kurama still burns Naruto. The DataBook does say that, but it only uses stuff done in the manga. Madara never had the chance to fight.
 

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You need two mangekyou abilities to unlock Susano'o, derp. And attempting to summon Kurama still burns Naruto. The DataBook does say that, but it only uses stuff done in the manga. Madara never had the chance to fight.

No. You just need both Mangekyou to unlock Susano'o, not two abilities. I assume you're basing it off Itachi's statement, but Itachi was talking about his own awakening of Susano'o. Sasuke later confirmed you just need two Mangekyou's to awaken Susano'o. Madara has never shown any other Mangekyou tech other than Susano'o. And you're going to go against Kishimoto's word? He doesn't have dimensional shifting, get over it.
 

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They're mad Madara solos their fave.
 

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No. You just need both Mangekyou to unlock Susano'o, not two abilities. I assume you're basing it off Itachi's statement, but Itachi was talking about his own awakening of Susano'o. Sasuke later confirmed you just need two Mangekyou's to awaken Susano'o. Madara has never shown any other Mangekyou tech other than Susano'o. And you're going to go against Kishimoto's word? He doesn't have dimensional shifting, get over it.

So Itachi says it, and it's his opinion, but when Sasuke says something, information he only got from Itachi, he is the truth? Madara never showed anything else, which is why I said they were unknown. Kishimoto has said things in the Databook before that were wrong. It just happens.
 

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they dont watch naruto, thats why
 

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So Itachi says it, and it's his opinion, but when Sasuke says something, information he only got from Itachi, he is the truth? Madara never showed anything else, which is why I said they were unknown. Kishimoto has said things in the Databook before that were wrong. It just happens.

Oi, you seem dense.

You're taking Itachi's opinion as fact when he asserted that you need two abilities (which were Ama and Tsu) to awaken Susano'o, but later on Sasuke debunked that. Sasuke hasn't shown Tsukuyomi and only has Amaterasu. His Right Eye contains Enton Kagutschi; the ability to manipulate the black flames of Amaterasu. So what I'm saying here is that Itachi was wrong. You're basing your "Madara has two unknown abilities" thought on Itachi's words when they were already debunked by Sasuke's awakening of Susano'o without the need of Ama and Tsu together.
 

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Oi, you seem dense.

You're taking Itachi's opinion as fact when he asserted that you need two abilities (which were Ama and Tsu) to awaken Susano'o, but later on Sasuke debunked that. Sasuke hasn't shown Tsukuyomi and only has Amaterasu. His Right Eye contains Enton Kagutschi; the ability to manipulate the black flames of Amaterasu. So what I'm saying here is that Itachi was wrong. You're basing your "Madara has two unknown abilities" thought on Itachi's words when they were already debunked by Sasuke's awakening of Susano'o without the need of Ama and Tsu together.

Sasuke has Amaterasu in one eye and Enton in the other. He cannot cast the black flames from his right, only his left.
 

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beats the hell out of me as well. Some of it is definitely out of hate though
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Why do some of you people believe that either Naruto or Sasuke by themselves is above Madara? It just doesn't make sense. Even without the ten-tails, he is somewhat above each of them.

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I'm guessing that relates to my saying of without the Holy Tree? Even so, Madara let that hit him, since he knew he could regenerate. That isn't even the one I meant to reference. The Madara I was talking about was a live Rinnegan Madara with Sage Mode.
 
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