Why do people try to give sasuke's BPS feat to Madara?

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You actually think he is being serious? Now I see why I consider all of you a bunch of illiterates.

of course not...but you wouldnt recognize sarcasm if it hit you in the face right boy?
 

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All Madara and Obito did was make a seal and the Chakra was assimilated all on its own; Coffin Seal for Jubi Jin. Sasuke didn't do any of that. Nothing was bypassed by a process. He did everything based on his own skill. Even something as Sage's Senjutsu wasn't involved as it gives a hefty CC boost because of the "Universal Grasp of ALL Things".

How does that automatic process, brought about by a mere seal, even comparable to Sasuke's skill, where he manually merged ALL the chakra, and created a mezo out of PS, on top of that, something neither Madara nor Obito were capable of?

I thought we were beyond this, what does sealing the Bijuus or making a Gedo got to do with anything? Like I said Madara doesn't need Sage level CC to achieve this feat, all he's going to do is store chakra into his PS not "Merging the Bijuu chakra in his PS". He doesn't need to re-create the Gedo just to simply store chakra unless you think he would need Gedo to store regular chakra.

- Madara has all the IT victims under his control/Genjutsu so he can manipulate their chakra at will if he wanted to, similar to why Sasuke could drain the Bijuu's chakra (who were under his Genjutsu).

- It's Madara's jutsu that is draining/ storing the chakra in the first place (Shin: Jukai Koutan).

- Madara has already shown decent CC which is enough to manipulate chakra into his PS as a container and has enough
Rinnegan feats to do so (Outer/ Preta Path).

No one is saying Madara has better CC than Sasuke which is false, that much should be obvious but Sage level CC is not even needed.
 

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lel probably because he has experience storing chakra into the Gedo Statue
and all of the paths Sasuke has displayed with even more control over them,
showing more proficiency with the rinnegan.
 

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I thought we were beyond this, what does sealing the Bijuus or making a Gedo got to do with anything? Like I said Madara doesn't need Sage level CC to achieve this feat, all he's going to do is store chakra into his PS not "Merging the Bijuu chakra in his PS". He doesn't need to re-create the Gedo just to simply store chakra unless you think he would need Gedo to store regular chakra.

- Madara has all the IT victims under his control/Genjutsu so he can manipulate their chakra at will if he wanted to, similar to why Sasuke could drain the Bijuu's chakra (who were under his Genjutsu).

- It's Madara's jutsu that is draining/ storing the chakra in the first place (Shin: Jukai Koutan).

- Madara has already shown decent CC which is enough to manipulate chakra into his PS as a container and has enough
Rinnegan feats to do so (Outer/ Preta Path).

No one is saying Madara has better CC than Sasuke which is false, that much should be obvious but Sage level CC is not even needed.

What are you talking about? Why doesn't he need that level of CC, when the whole feat requires it?

It isn't about chakra volume, but chakra control.

Not really.
 

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What are you talking about? Why doesn't he need that level of CC, when the whole feat requires it?

It isn't about chakra volume, but chakra control.

Not really.

Been addressed multiple times, Why would he need it? He's not merging the Bijuu's chakra together (Juubi chakra) which is the only instance where Sage level CC is needed not Sasuke manipulating the said chakra.

It's both but neither requires Sage level skill :hmm:

Yes really.
 

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Been addressed multiple times, Why would he need it? He's not merging the Bijuu's chakra together (Juubi chakra) which is the only instance where Sage level CC is needed not Sasuke manipulating the said chakra.

It's both but neither requires Sage level skill :hmm:

Yes really.

Why would he not need it? Saying that he doesn't isn't an argument, when Kurama directly co-related the whole procedure with Sage's level chakra control and skill.

Yeah, okay.
 

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Why would he not need it? Saying that he doesn't isn't an argument, when Kurama directly co-related the whole procedure with Sage's level chakra control and skill.

So absorbing/Manipulating Chakra is a Sage level skill now? :hmm:

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Yeah no, he clearly wasn't referring to Sasuke using PS for a vessel as "Sage level". Not like that matters since Kurama states that "merging the chakra into one" and doing what the Sage did but reverse is what made him his level, that should be clear as day.

But again, you clearly ignore the fact that Madara isn't merging any Bijuu chakra so this argument was flawed from the start.
 

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So absorbing/Manipulating Chakra is a Sage level skill now? :hmm:

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Yeah no, he clearly wasn't referring to Sasuke using PS for a vessel as "Sage level". Not like that matters since Kurama states that "merging the chakra into one" and doing what the Sage did but reverse is what made him his level, that should be clear as day.

But again, you clearly ignore the fact that Madara isn't merging any Bijuu chakra so this argument was flawed from the start.

What else was he stating? You are making no sense here, when creating a Mezo out of PS and balancing that chakra was the sole reason why Kurama even stated it. Granted that the Bijuu chakra is more difficult to manage than regular chakra, but the container logic still applies.

Honestly, either you believe it or you don't. Five replies onwards, this has gotten quite tiresome.
 
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What else was he stating? You are making no sense here, when creating a Mezo out of PS and balancing that chakra was the sole reason why Kurama even stated it. Granted that the Bijuu chakra is more difficult to manage that regular chakra, but the container logic still applies.

Honestly, either you believe it or you don't. Five replies onwards, this has gotten quite tiresome.

Agreed, no further explanation is needed.
 
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