Why do people treat all rasengan variants as the same jutsu?

[Dantee]

how do you know it's a butthurt reply if you don't read it?

Cause im a boss

 

[Sharingan King]

It doesn't matter that it was an incomplete technique. Naruto completed it and turned it into many different jutsus. Therefore, each and every variant is in fact something new. You also forgot about stuff like planetary rasengan which tears people apart and mini rasenshuriken which can cut people in half as it did with the white zetsu fusion. Bottom line is:

Different effect = different jutsu

It is not a rehash.

They may have different effects but they are all spinning chakra balls. They are too similar and boring. All rasengan variants depend on the same basic shape manipulation technique. To get other variants you make a rasengan with normal/bijuu chakra and then add an element.

Bottom line:

Rasengan variants = Bored Fans

I'm not saying they don't have different power/effects. I'm just saying its boring.

 

[TrollingSage]

No one gets on Madara's case for only using susano and fire techs before his senju power up.

 

[Michael]

Okay bro but you are just being over specific with the variants its still ransengan and half of those techs come from borrowed power anyway. All and all most of narutos moveset is rasengan and shadow clone but thats all he needed as well.

It's all borrowed
as is Sasuke's.

#Deal with it

 

[Dantee]

It's all borrowed
as is Sasuke's.

#Deal with it

Nope Sasukes power belongs to him

 

[Sharingan King]

Nope Sasukes power belongs to him

Agreed. Nardo fanboys will never get it. All hope is lost for them...

But isn't this thread about rasengan?

 

[The Work]

Sasuke fapboys just try to discredit Naruto U_U

 

[Dantee]

Agreed. Nardo fanboys will never get it. All hope is lost for them...

But isn't this thread about rasengan?

This is saskebase tho. Everything is about sasuke and their fans. Theyre obsessed

 

[AlphaScythian]

all those jutsus are basically rasengan in core with upgrades such as special chakras.
nobody threats it as same jutsu but the fact is that naruto's arsenal is all rasengan based hence boring

 

[Howling Fox]

So asking a question as to your point = butthurt, eh?

This is why nobody takes you seriously. You're a complete joke and are unable to counter any direct points, so you fallback on what you know; insulting mindlessly to make you feel better about your own insecurities. Yes, Naruto does use friends. That's the theme of this manga. Approximately how long did it take you to realize that, was it before or after it was printed in black and white?

And here I thought your reputation on the base as an idiotic troll was highly exaggerated. Jesus Christ. Way to defy the stereotype.

It's like you didn't even read. It's called a Clarificatory Comparison or did you not graduate 10th grade? Rhetorical question, it's clear you didn't. Then you spout out the same drivel like an autistic parrot of "durr tasty tears durr".

I now see why you and other Sasuke fans are a complete joke and the mockery of the anime world. This exchange is over, you've proved your lack of common sense famously.


Apparently so. It's almost sad to see how low-brow Sasuke fans are.

LEEEEEEEEL dante GOT TOASTED LEL

holy shit take all the rep i can offer. but i agree with op cuz its not the same jutsu each time it is different. its like saying all style are the same or all susano is the same when itachi's is clearly best.

 

[super yang]

becuz it is the same jutsu...

the problem w' rasengan is that it leaves no room for further shape/nature manipulation in either spectrum. it can only be buffed my stacking various ''chakras'' & ''energies' onto it.

this=boring

For the most part, I agree. Look at Kakashi's and Sasuke's Lightning techniques, they all draw from the same principles and are often variants of other jutsus. Saying a Rasengan is the same as the RasenShuriken is like saying Chidori is the same as Lightning Blade.

Nope, those rai'ton jutsu are distinctly different. they use entirely different nature & shape manipulations w/ different utilizations & ranges & damage outputs.

 

[shadowcb]

Nope Sasukes power belongs to him

Really? I didn't know Sasuke's power and chakra didn't come from the 10 tails like everybody else. Oh that's right it doesn't. All power and chakra originates from the 10 tails. The differences are how they receive their powers and the type of power. Some receive theirs through their bloodline and others through other means. They both have advantages and disadvantages. So all you are doing is arguing over how lucky a character is when it comes to receiving their power. IMO if they can use it and have control over it then it's their power. If not then everyone's power belongs to the 10 tail.

Sasuke fapboys just try to discredit Naruto U_U

Exactly. It doesn't matter what Naruto does. He can continue to create completely different rasengan or even possess completely different jutsu all together and people will continue to discredit him. That's the reason some say Naruto only knows the shadow clone jutsu and rasengan when we all know he possess more jutsu. It's really pathetic when the same people give another character credit for having several different jutsu that do the same thing IE: burns and cuts.

 

[chaos control]

becuz it is the same jutsu...

the problem w' rasengan is that it leaves no room for further shape/nature manipulation in either spectrum. it can only be buffed my stacking various ''chakras'' & ''energies' onto it.

this=boring

Nope, those rai'ton jutsu are distinctly different. they use entirely different nature & shape manipulations w/ different utilizations & ranges & damage outputs.

Lava, magnet, wind, etc...

These are all clearly different natures.

A shuriken shape, a ball shape, planetary orbiting shape, these are all different shapes.

Therefore you are wrong on both counts.

Plus, you said chidori and raikiri add different natures. I don't think you know what a nature is as it relates to this series. Those are all lightning techniques, and therefore only one nature.

New effect = new jutsu

 

[super yang]

Lava, magnet, wind, etc...

These are all clearly different natures.

A shuriken shape, a ball shape, planetary orbiting shape, these are all different shapes.

Therefore you are wrong on both counts.

Plus, you said chidori and raikiri add different natures. I don't think you know what a nature is as it relates to this series. Those are all lightning techniques, and therefore only one nature.

New effect = new jutsu

I said new nature/shape manipulation.

and I wasn't talking about chidori. its variants are what he was hinting at, unless he was being disingenuous about separate charas using the same jutsu

 

[chaos control]

becuz it is the same jutsu...

the problem w' rasengan is that it leaves no room for further shape/nature manipulation in either spectrum. it can only be buffed my stacking various ''chakras'' & ''energies' onto it.

this=boring

Nope, those rai'ton jutsu are distinctly different. they use entirely different nature & shape manipulations w/ different utilizations & ranges & damage outputs.

Lava, magnet, wind, etc...

These are all clearly different natures.

A shuriken shape, a ball shape, planetary orbiting shape, these are all different shapes. They also have different effects and damage outputs (cellular destruction, sealing/binding, burning, etc...).

Therefore you are wrong on all counts.

Plus, you said chidori and raikiri add different natures. I don't think you know what a nature is as it relates to this series. Those are all lightning techniques, and therefore only one nature.

New effect = new jutsu

sorry for double post but not all of this appeared for some reason in the first reply.

 

[SusanooKyuubi]

becuz it is the same jutsu...

the problem w' rasengan is that it leaves no room for further shape/nature manipulation in either spectrum. it can only be buffed my stacking various ''chakras'' & ''energies' onto it.

this=boring

Nope, those rai'ton jutsu are distinctly different. they use entirely different nature & shape manipulations w/ different utilizations & ranges & damage outputs.

The Lightning blade originates from the Chidori as the Rasenshuriken and its variants originate from the Rasengan. It's the same principle for both, the variants are created from different manipulation. The Rasenshuriken's damage is vastly different from the Rasengan damage just as the Lightning Blade's damage is different from the Chidori's damage.

 

[super yang]

The Lightning blade originates from the Chidori as the Rasenshuriken and its variants originate from the Rasengan. It's the same principle for both, the variants are created from different manipulation. The Rasenshuriken's damage is vastly different from the Rasengan damage just as the Lightning Blade's damage is different from the Chidori's damage.

oh, ok, I thought you were talking about nagashi, raijuu, kirin, senbon, tsurugi etc...

in other words U had no point( 2 diff charas)

 

[shadowcb]

Lava, magnet, wind, etc...

These are all clearly different natures.

A shuriken shape, a ball shape, planetary orbiting shape, these are all different shapes.

Therefore you are wrong on both counts.

Plus, you said chidori and raikiri add different natures. I don't think you know what a nature is as it relates to this series. Those are all lightning techniques, and therefore only one nature.

New effect = new jutsu

I agree. The rasengans have different ranges, properties, power output, effects, sh*t some of his rasengans can even be used defensively.

 

[chaos control]

I said new nature/shape manipulation.

and I wasn't talking about chidori. its variants are what he was hinting at, unless he was being disingenuous about separate charas using the same jutsu

You highlight the word manipulation like it is something special. It takes the ability to manipulate a nature to add it to a rasengan. In fact, the rasengan variants (just like the chidori variants) are at the pinnacle of shape and nature transformation.

 

[chaos control]

I said new nature/shape manipulation.

and I wasn't talking about chidori. its variants are what he was hinting at, unless he was being disingenuous about separate charas using the same jutsu

You highlight the word manipulation like it is something special. It takes the ability to manipulate a nature to add it to a rasengan. In fact, the rasengan variants (just like the chidori variants) are at the pinnacle of shape and nature transformation.