why do people take away minato's feat as a jin?

[ShiroT]

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minato's trigram seal

Same seal. Its the RDS. Please stop. Minato is a jinchuriki. Deal with it.

i was just about to post these pictures lol

added the official Eight Trigrams Sealing Style image so people know what the seal minato used looks like

they all look the same dont they?

 

[blackstar9]

@ shiro t. Itachi has shown exact same techs. Whether healthy or not A's edo itachi. Only difference. Is. Magatama. Healthy. Or not techs. are. Mainly. The same. But edo Minato has never shown jinnchuriki feats alive. Minato also admitted. Never. Using. Sage. Mode. In. Battle. So. Jinn. And. Sage. Minato should only be classed. As. Edo. Minato. Sorry phone messing up

 

[Draphsin]

its not nonsense.

Yes it is, stop repeating stuff I already covered.

Crippled nagato can use all 6 paths.

Healthy itachi & sick itachi are two different versions of itachi. Alive, healthy itachi is real

Alive minato & edo minato are two different versions of minato. Alive, BM minato is fanfiction.

Naruto also has the RDS on him. Your point is invalid.

Please read the manga.

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[Gold Lightning]

What difference does it make, either way vs threads can be made by anyone with any kind of terms they want so who cares whether someone claims its fair or not?

Been saying this for so long. The whole VS Thread concept is all fanfiction anyway, so why people get butt hurt over Jin Minato I do not know.

He learned SM but did'nt use it while alive,therefore it can't be used as a feat.

Of course he used it while alive, don't be ridiculous. He said he hasn't used it in battle "much" - official viz translation. Much can range to a couple or a few times in battle. He never said he hasn't used it in battle before.

@ shiro t. Itachi has shown exact same techs. Whether healthy or not A's edo itachi. Only difference. Is. Magatama. Healthy. Or not techs. are. Mainly. The same. But edo Minato has never shown jinnchuriki feats alive. Minato also admitted. Never. Using. Sage. Mode. In. Battle. So. Jinn. And. Sage. Minato should only be classed. As. Edo. Minato. Sorry phone messing up

Nope, Minato never said that. Try again

 

[Draphsin]

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Same seal. Its the RDS. Please stop. Minato is a jinchuriki. Deal with it.

Lmfao minato says that he used two different seals yet you still deny it? Okay. Lol

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Does that look the same to you? Just because the marks look similar doesn't mean they're the same, so you're wrong.

Minato is not a jin, deal with it.

 

[Retsu]

Been saying this for so long. The whole VS Thread concept is all fanfiction anyway, so why people get butt hurt over Jin Minato I do not know.


Of course he used it while alive, don't be ridiculous. He said he hasn't used it in battle "much" - official viz translation. Much can range to a couple or a few times in battle. He never said he hasn't used it in battle before.



Nope, Minato never said that. Try again

Yeah the fact that no one takes into consideration the bold honestly confounds me to no ends. at the end of the day vs threads are nothing but pretend so anything other what author directly portrayed in the manga is just as much fanfiction as living bm Minato, yet that never seemed to stop anybody so why start now? what is up with this non existent gold standard with pretend match ups?

 

[FleeOnSight]

Bro they do this because EVERYONE knows the true solo king is prime minato. Kcm bm and sm they can't debate with that power therefore they say it doesn't exist. Over half the base is filled up minato haters aka itachi/sasuke fans. It's to be expected from them.

 

[ShiroT]

Yes it is, stop repeating stuff I already covered.

Crippled nagato can use all 6 paths.

Healthy itachi & sick itachi are two different versions of itachi. Alive, healthy itachi is real

Alive minato & edo minato are two different versions of minato. Alive, BM minato is fanfiction.



Please read the manga.

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please actually read my post before dismissing it and acting like yours is fact. i never said crippled nagato couldnt use 6 paths. i said there is no healthy nagato who has shown the 6 paths. nagato all the way up to the hanzo fight only summoned the gedo mezu HE NEVER USED (asura path, deva path, etc.) so there has never been an alive nagato that can walk that has shown all 6 paths that is a fact. like i said the only nagato that walked and has shown all 6 is edo, the nagato that fought hanzo never showed it its a fact.

same for itachi. healthy itachi has never did any jutsus(as far as i remember). so the strongest itachi shown is when he was sick. if you go back to anbu itachi he hasnt shown any feats, everything i said is factual you havent covered any of these i dont even think you understand what i said.

and did you look at the other seals? to me the Eight Trigrams Sealing Style which minato used on naruto (to me) looks just like the dead demon seal which leads me(you can disagree if you want) to believe that the actual seal of demon seal doesnt matter but its all in how it seals something.

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these dont look almost exactly the same to you? nvm your right being similar doesnt matter

 

[Draphsin]

please actually read my post before dismissing it and acting like yours is fact. i never said crippled nagato couldnt use 6 paths. i said there is no healthy nagato who has shown the 6 paths. nagato all the way up to the hanzo fight only summoned the gedo mezu HE NEVER USED (asura path, deva path, etc.) so there has never been an alive nagato that can walk that has shown all 6 paths that is a fact. like i said the only nagato that walked and has shown all 6 is edo, the nagato that fought hanzo never showed it its a fact.

Lol & The bolds are why I'm dismissing your posts. If you don't know why then I'm not going to bother.

same for itachi. healthy itachi has never did any jutsus(as far as i remember). so the strongest itachi shown is when he was sick. if you go back to anbu itachi he hasnt shown any feats, everything i said is factual you havent covered any of these i dont even think you understand what i said.

Edo itachi represents an alive healthy itachi because that form of itachi exists. Alive jin minato doesn't.

Lol you're telling me I don't understand your posts but you just keep saying the exact same things over again, it's quite funny really.

and did you look at the other seals? to me the Eight Trigrams Sealing Style which minato used on naruto (to me) looks just like the dead demon seal which leads me(you can disagree if you want) to believe that the actual seal of demon seal doesnt matter but its all in how it seals something.

@Bold: It may look that way to you, but the fact is that minato used two different seals, one on himself, & one on naruto. Whether they look the same or not is irrelevant, we know that they're different.

 

[Chie]

People definitely get mad about "healthy Itachi" and "healthy Nagato" but that's because those characters technically didn't exist. Their strongest form was their edo form and it's kind of unfair to count that in with the ranks. Same goes for jin Minato. While I do agree that Minato was a jin and all, he never showcased it while alive. He also never combined his sage mode with his bijuu mode so saying "bijuu sage mode Minato" is the same as saying "healthy Itachi." It is a very controversial subject on the base and I'm honestly not even sure which way I sway in the argument. Like I want to be able to count BSM Minato as a character but you kind of can't since he was edo when he showcased BOTH of those techniques and as you know, edos have unlimited chakra and are basically immortal outside a sealing jutsu. That's why people deny his feats; because he was using an edo body when showing all of them.

Pretty much this.

 

[ShiroT]

Yeah the fact that no one takes into consideration the bold honestly confounds me to no ends. at the end of the day vs threads are nothing but pretend so anything other what author directly portrayed in the manga is just as much fanfiction as living bm Minato, yet that never seemed to stop anybody so why start now? what is up with this non existent gold standard with pretend match ups?

i like vs threads lol

 

[Gold Lightning]

Yeah the fact that no one takes into consideration the bold honestly confounds me to no ends. at the end of the day vs threads are nothing but pretend so anything other what author directly portrayed in the manga is just as much fanfiction as living bm Minato, yet that never seemed to stop anybody so why start now? what is up with this non existent gold standard with pretend match ups?

So so true.

Besides, it's not as if anyone said Rinnegan Minato or 7th Gate Minato. Those forms of Minato do not and have never existed and have not been written or portrayed by the author. At least BM Minato has been written and given feats, no one is making stuff up here. But people choose to accept or not accept things whenever it suits their interest U_U

 

[ShiroT]

Lol & The bolds are why I'm dismissing your posts. If you don't know why then I'm not going to bother.



Edo itachi represents an alive healthy itachi because that form of itachi exists. Alive jin minato doesn't.

Lol you're telling me I don't understand your posts but you just keep saying the exact same things over again, it's quite funny really.



@Bold: It may look that way to you, but the fact is that minato used two different seals, one on himself, & one on naruto. Whether they look the same or not is irrelevant, we know that they're different.

1. nope i dont understand, these are facts and im not sure what to make up you dismissing facts.

2. alive healthy itachi with all his ms abilities(and being skilled at them) with all his katon and suiton releases is a myth. anbu itachi is featless he hasnt shown any jutsus or to be skilled at any jutsu's at all. again only edo itachi

3. the fact that minato came back as a edo jin proves that he died as a jin. even though the jutsu killed him kurama was sealed in him and he died as a jin.

4. i already edited the post your quoting and admitted to them being different.

5. honestly idk if your saying im wrong about points 1 and 2, i dont understand what your trying to say. points one and two are FACTS and apart of my whole argument, if you cant accept points 1 and 2 which are manga facts then im done debating with you i keep repeating it because you dont seem to get it.

 

[ShiroT]

can someone tell me if im wrong here?

Itachi: healthy itachi has never shown any jutsus. itachi during the anbu on screen hasnt shown any ms techniques, kaiton, or suiton techniques. while itachi said he learned his ms abilities during that night he hasnt even shown if he was proficient at it. so itachi was shown at his strongest when he was sick. edo itachi represents a sick itachi if he was healthy. he doesnt represent anbu itachi who barely has any feats. so we are giving sick itachi edo feats when we say healthy itachi, and most have no problem with this.

Nagato: nagato has only shown the power of the 6 paths(all of them) after he was crippled. neither during his train with jirairy or when he fought hanzo has he shown the asur path, deva path etc. he only summoned gedo mezu. nagato was only shown at his strongest when he was crippled. edo nagato is a prime example of healthy full power nagato. so when people say healthy nagato thats also edo feats.

Minato: minato died as a jin. in his edo he was a perfect jin. we know how a perfect jin minato fights and his abilities. why cant i apply the same thing i did for itachi and nagato?

is there anything wrong with what i just said?

 

[blackstar9]

No one can take away Minato feat as a jinn. Cause he has none while alive. That's a fact. It's obvious
He was only alive for a few moments after receiving kurama. So technically he died as a jinn . But. He didn't live as a. Jinn

 

[lilenesaron]

What did he use to seal kurama? he used a jutsu that causes death. Meaning minato can't be a jin without having the RDS seal on him, meaning in the first 2-5 minutes of the battle minato dies because the reaper steals his soul.

2-5minutes. but he was still living for those minutes and he had kurama in him. thus a jin. lemme get this straight you mean to tell that because 8th gate kills guy(though he didnt die). it shouldn't be considered he has it?

 

[ShiroT]

2-5minutes. but he was still living for those minutes and he had kurama in him. thus a jin. lemme get this straight you mean to tell that because 8th gate kills guy(though he didnt die). it shouldn't be considered he has it?

No one can take away Minato feat as a jinn. Cause he has none while alive. That's a fact. It's obvious
He was only alive for a few moments after receiving kurama. So technically he died as a jinn . But. He didn't live as a. Jinn

@lilene exactly! so because guy is susposed to die after using 8 gates do we just say there is no 8 gate guy?

@blackstar9 same could be said for itachi and nagato

 

[RikudoKami]

c'mon dude if naruto (one of the poorest chakra handlers in the series) could handle nine tails chakra i think minato should be able to without sweat. he's a kage. chakra control should be the least of his detriments. as for how long can he maintain. for as long as he needs to. kyuubi can give him chakra without taking his. you mean to tell me that before naruto got hagoromo's power he's been fighting while exchanging chakra with kyuubi?, not even hashirama's or madara's chakra pool is that much

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Just wanted to post that. Continue though.

 

[ShiroT]

can someone tell me if im wrong here?

Itachi: healthy itachi has never shown any jutsus. itachi during the anbu on screen hasnt shown any ms techniques, kaiton, or suiton techniques. while itachi said he learned his ms abilities during that night he hasnt even shown if he was proficient at it. so itachi was shown at his strongest when he was sick. edo itachi represents a sick itachi if he was healthy. he doesnt represent anbu itachi who barely has any feats. so we are giving sick itachi edo feats when we say healthy itachi, and most have no problem with this.

Nagato: nagato has only shown the power of the 6 paths(all of them) after he was crippled. neither during his train with jirairy or when he fought hanzo has he shown the asur path, deva path etc. he only summoned gedo mezu. nagato was only shown at his strongest when he was crippled. edo nagato is a prime example of healthy full power nagato. so when people say healthy nagato thats also edo feats.

Minato: minato died as a jin. in his edo he was a perfect jin. we know how a perfect jin minato fights and his abilities. why cant i apply the same thing i did for itachi and nagato?

is there anything wrong with what i just said?

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Just wanted to post that. Continue though.

just wanted to ask, do you agree with quoted or think im wrong?

 

[RikudoKami]

Eff everybody else. Whatever you see in the manga is part of their feats. Not hype.