Why do people love Kushina but Hate Sakura?

[salamander uchiha]

"where u fail"

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sorry, we are talking about our subjective opinions on anime characters here- right?

You've decided to crawl out of your hole good for you.

 

[Ansatsuken]

And for Sakura let say if he around Minato or 'tackling' Minato. It depends on Sakura characteristic.

Actually why Sakura never beat/scold Sasuke like she did to Naruto is not bcus she is not capable physically but she is incapable spiritually(Will), Weak Will. Her Will become weak when she need to do something toward Sasuke. She couldnt finish her duty of Killing Sasuke.

And if that how Sakura reaction toward Sasuke I guarantee you if she found deep love toward Minato, the same woukd happen. Deep blind devotion toward the man he really love but right not its Minato.

Weakness of Sakura is her deep blind devotion toward someone she really love. Her Will become weak bcus of that. Thats why constant 'dik' suking.

 

[salamander uchiha]

nice fanfic

Reason is lost on the immature ones. Now I need to :tea: I'll advise you to learn the difference between objective,subjective and fallacies.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Again with the fail logic the dynamics are different yet you compare based on them. That's why I said you fail you assume kushina would have the same temperament put both in each other's situations and the result would be near identical to the others that's the point your missing. Why? Because their characteristics are similar.
Kushina though Minato was a sissy.
Sakura thought Naruto was a loser.
Kushina fell in love with Minato because their was no one between them and she bullies Minato. Because of his personality.
Sakura was saved by Naruto but was already in love with Sasuke yet she bullies him. If their was no Sasuke Naruto would be treated the same as Minato was. If their was a Minato he d be treated the same as kushina did.

 

[Askeladd]

Reason is lost on the immature ones. Now I need to :tea: I'll advise you to learn the difference between objective,subjective and fallacies.

you are the first one calling everything fanfic besides your own argument :tea:

 

[salamander uchiha]

you are the first one calling everything fanfic besides your own argument :tea:

Apparently comprehension too.
Now on a more serious note something without substance is fanfic. Anything based around your opinions and not facts is subjective. Objective scenarios are based around facts. When concluding something you leave yourself out of it in objective cases.
This was a topic of several personality traits shared by two characters not their back story. To gain a truer picture of if they're absolutely alike in other aspects they'd have to live each other's life. We can only base judgements on what we see. The argument is we shouldn't be discussion aspects outside the character traits since they're based on differ at scenarios and a fair comparison can't be made.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Ah your fail logic is in that the Uchiha weren't at the academy where it mattered. Your creating straw man arguments and then dismissing them. That's why your confused. Kushina original circumstances are also different she had a point to prove. Sakura had 0 points to prove to anybody at that time. Minato wasn't popular at the academy either Sasuke was. There are several variable you ignore when you create your straw man points. That's why your arguments hold 0 weight.
Her personality and character are the same as sakura's and knit picking a minor incident doesn't nullify the similarity.
Uchiha weren't in the academy excelling did she come across them in the novels till later after Minato saved her. She don't like Minato before that or have you forgotten.
Anyway the points still stand the logic is fail.

Did she even care about kid popularity in the class. Never been state in manga/anime/databook. If it happen Kushina would tell it to Naruto or Minato telling Naruto, either way. So there is no straw man argument here but your failure at connecting the situations.

No Uchiha in academy but why love only can be found in the academy. There is much bigger life outside and there is no reason to believe that Kushina couldnt found any Uchiha outside the academy. She met with Mikoto Uchiha in the public.

Their personality is similar in 'temper issue' and its end there.

When she was around 12 years old,[2] Kushina — now a genin — was kidnapped by Kumogakure who wanted to make use of her special chakra in order to gain control of the Nine-Tails.[8] As they escorted her to Kumo, she secretly plucked and left behind strands of her red hair to mark her trail in the hopes that someone would find her. Minato Namikaze, one of her former classmates that Kushina believed to be a wimp, was the only one to pick up on this. After rescuing her, he informed her that he had always admired her red hair. Since Minato proved himself to be anything but, accepted her, and liked the one thing she hated about herself, Kushina fell in love with him, now considering her red hair as the "red thread of fate" (運命の赤い糸, unmei no akai ito) that had brought them together.[9] Ultimately, Minato's reciprocated feelings helped her with overcoming the Nine-Tails.[10]

Of course I know in her academy years she never looked at Minato but years after that, after one event.^^^^

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Wanting to make a strong first impression, she proclaimed to her class that she would be the first female Hokage.

Boy Salamander in Kushina's academy years her only goal is to be Hokage and not looking for hot/popular male and I know and quite sure at that time there should be a very stand out/popular boy in the academy. But Kushina never care.

So where is their similarity again beside Temper issue?

 

[salamander uchiha]

Did she even care about kid popularity in the class. Never been state in manga/anime/databook. If it happen Kushina would tell it to Naruto or Minato telling Naruto, either way. So there is no straw man argument here but your failure at connecting the situations.

No Uchiha in academy but why love only can be found in the academy. There is much bigger life outside and there is no reason to believe that Kushina couldnt found any Uchiha outside the academy. She met with Mikoto Uchiha in the public.

Their personality is similar in 'temper issue' and its end there.



Of course I know in her academy years she never looked at Minato but years after that, after one event.^^^^

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Boy Salamander in Kushina's academy years her only goal is to be Hokage and not looking for hot/popular male and I know and quite sure at that time there should be a very stand out/popular boy in the academy. But Kushina never care.

So where is their similarity again beside Temper issue?

Why was her goal to become Hokage because she was an outsider. She was treated as such. So the comparison again is invalid to truly measure their characters they'd have to live each other's lives. That's the point, yet you fail to see it.
Like I said Minato and Naruto would've been tested the same way I made the points clear. In the last post anyway I can't be bothered repeating myself.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Reason is lost on the immature ones. Now I need to :tea: I'll advise you to learn the difference between objective,subjective and fallacies.

You could not come off more like a pretentious 15 year old right now, I hope you realise.

 

[Askeladd]

Apparently comprehension too.
Now on a more serious note something without substance is fanfic. Anything based around your opinions and not facts is subjective. Objective scenarios are based around facts. When concluding something you leave yourself out of it in objective cases.
This was a topic of several personality traits shared by two characters not their back story. To gain a truer picture of if they're absolutely alike in other aspects they'd have to live each other's life. We can only base judgements on what we see. The argument is we shouldn't be discussion aspects outside the character traits since they're based on differ at scenarios and a fair comparison can't be made.

I see.

Sakura is nothing like Kushina. There is no similarity besides temper issue:tea:

 

[FemmeFatale]

And for Sakura let say if he around Minato or 'tackling' Minato. It depends on Sakura characteristic.

Actually why Sakura never beat/scold Sasuke like she did to Naruto is not bcus she is not capable physically but she is incapable spiritually(Will), Weak Will. Her Will become weak when she need to do something toward Sasuke. She couldnt finish her duty of Killing Sasuke.

And if that how Sakura reaction toward Sasuke I guarantee you if she found deep love toward Minato, the same woukd happen. Deep blind devotion toward the man he really love but right not its Minato.

Weakness of Sakura is her deep blind devotion toward someone she really love. Her Will become weak bcus of that. Thats why constant 'dik' suking.

But I showed you the scan of Sakura scolding Sasuke , Sasuke was never scared to say anything
And Sakura stopping Sasuke from killing zaku was the same as kushina scolding minato, because minato and Sasuke are untilmately different people

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[salamander uchiha]

I see.

Sakura is nothing like Kushina. There is no similarity besides temper issue:tea:

So their is a similarity?

 

[Ansatsuken]

Again with the fail logic the dynamics are different yet you compare based on them. That's why I said you fail you assume kushina would have the same temperament put both in each other's situations and the result would be near identical to the others that's the point your missing. Why? Because their characteristics are similar.
Kushina though Minato was a sissy.
Sakura thought Naruto was a loser.
Kushina fell in love with Minato because their was no one between them and she bullies Minato. Because of his personality.
Sakura was saved by Naruto but was already in love with Sasuke yet she bullies him. If their was no Sasuke Naruto would be treated the same as Minato was. If their was a Minato he d be treated the same as kushina did.

You are wrong. And how two words 'sissy' and ' not very reliable' equal/meant Kushina bullying Minato in his whole academy years when Minato also dreaming to become a Hokage. Of course he at the same time like Kushina's read hair. But beside that his entie focus was on to be Hokage. Kushina never bullied him :lmao

Read the chapter (fact)

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Kushina fell in love with Minato because their was no one between them and she bullies Minato. Because of his personality.

Such wild interpretation from you. Where is the logic?


To sum it up

Kushina only saw Minato as someone not worthy*at that time* but never beat him like Sakura beating Naruto in every chances possible.


Kushina wanted to be Hokage and can be self dependence at time without someone help.

-She beat Bullies on her own when Sakura couldnt,

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She can accept someone that before she dislike but not hate

-Sakura still never accept/recognize Naruto.

Three qualities that Kushina had but Sakura dont have. Their similarity stop at 'temper issue'

 

[Askeladd]

So their is a similarity?

If you consider temper issue as a similarity, I guess?

 

[salamander uchiha]

You could not come off more like a pretentious 15 year old right now, I hope you realise.

Typical school boy habits dismissal through adhominen attacks. couldn't address the points so attacks the person.
Anyway I'm done on this topic.

 

[Ansatsuken]

But I showed you the scan of Sakura scolding Sasuke , Sasuke was never scared to say anything
And Sakura stopping Sasuke from killing zaku was the same as kushina scolding minato, because minato and Sasuke are untilmately different people

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She just shouting toward Sasuke informing him and its end there. No 'follow-up' action like lecturing him in angry manner about Naruto worth so that emo kid can appreciate inner Sakura.

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[Ansatsuken]

Why was her goal to become Hokage because she was an outsider. She was treated as such. So the comparison again is invalid to truly measure their characters they'd have to live each other's lives. That's the point, yet you fail to see it.
Like I said Minato and Naruto would've been tested the same way I made the points clear. In the last post anyway I can't be bothered repeating myself.

Boy you actually have no point but running away. Okey

We are not talking about she is an Outsider or She cant be a Hokage. What 'treated'? Stop twisting or made up thing.

Her(Kushina) goal is more ambitious than Sakura. And not some cliche to be with a boy(Sasuke) beside wanting to be strong.

If Kushina lives Sakura's lives, her goal will not differs bcus she already made a sincere admission infront of Naruto that her only goal to became First Female Hokage.

But for Sakura if she's living in Kushina's lives, her 'story' not changing too much. She will be bully subject bcus of her forehead. Here I dont know who will saves him bcus Minato only interest in Red Hair Girl. Maybe her life will become much worse than her actual reality.

But let say she found a boy that she like and want him to be her 'lover' I think the situation can be 'little' similar to actual reality. Blind love. It bcus Sakura has build some affection-complex, Where when she fall in love with someone she will not care for anything but only her lover when something involving he lover.

 

[FemmeFatale]

She just shouting toward Sasuke informing him and its end there. No 'follow-up' action like lecturing him in angry manner about Naruto worth so that emo kid can appreciate inner Sakura.

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She called him a coward

 

[Ansatsuken]

She called him a coward

At least Naruto is not 'a coward' like Sasuke think about him(Naruto). *Inside Sakura's Dialogue Box*

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Typical school boy habits dismissal through adhominen attacks. couldn't address the points so attacks the person.
Anyway I'm done on this topic.

I wasn't engaged in the conversation, it was a genuine message to you.