tbb may not be as fast as amaterasu and it takes time to develop, however once it gets started it is basically impossible to stop. even if sasuke used amaterasu on it there is no way that the amaterasu alone could even put a dent in the massive attack. and unless sasuke learns that perfect susanoo thing i dont think susanoo will do much either. i mean odds are sasuke will live through it but just living through it wont do him any good. after using the tailed beast bomb against the other tailed beast i dont think narutos bijou mode dissapeard meaning he still does have the same speed as before, once the susanoo is gone it would be the perfect opportunity for naruto to strike as much as he can. he can spam rasengans like nobodys business. its what he does anyways.
Again ima stop you guys are your first line.
TBB=1 hit KO
Amaterasu=1 Hit KO
Amaterasu is faster than TBB therefore would die first?
Amaterasu will strike before TBB can finish charging. This can not be argued against.
1. This is V3 Susano'o we're talking about here, why are you bringing up the bones? Lmao
2. Exactly, the EMS Madara you saw is the EMS Sasuke we have now.
If a Jin dies so does the tailed beast, so Kurama can do nothing if naruto dies.
Also You answered your own question, if he has not mastered it what other powers could he have :|
4. Your argument is invalid since you said "may".
Quick debate lesson, if your proving a point do not use words like maybe, possible, may or anything that is other then a yes or no. Take a debate class you will hear the same thing.
5. Are you kidding me? Do you want me to make a thread asking if it's kirin or not. Oro said "that" Jutsu, what other possible jutsu could that be. Sasuke also said "now things end" what other 1 shot jutsu did he have at the time?
Same hand Gesture as well
Plus sasuke planted his sword on the ground to act as a lightening rod.
With his Rai Chakra nature and a conducter (the sword) using kirin seems very simple.
you know what im talking about douche face don't play dumb and stfu now this is a naruto vs sasuke thread no need 4 you start gayin it up now be a good lil quer and start talkin naruto or sasuke and stop with the shit talkin U_U
Oh yeah, when the time is right, there WILL be a part II to this thread. So for now I'm just waiting on more and more evidence from the manga that further proves that Uchiha Sasuke>Uzumaki Naruto
Again ima stop you guys are your first line.
TBB=1 hit KO
Amaterasu=1 Hit KO
Amaterasu is faster than TBB therefore would die first?
Amaterasu will strike before TBB can finish charging. This can not be argued against.
ok the effectiveness of teh attack has nothing to do with the density of the attack. thats like saying throwing a rock into a fire will make the rock explode and the fire extinguish. no. if anything, the tbb would blow directly through the flames into sasuke, leaving him a bloodied mess. the amaterasu is NOT a good defense agains the tbb. susanoo would do him much much better. plus, i dont think naruto would use the attack at a random point such as in the middle of the fight where sasuke is freely moving and such. yknow what i mean?
ok the effectiveness of teh attack has nothing to do with the density of the attack. thats like saying throwing a rock into a fire will make the rock explode and the fire extinguish. no. if anything, the tbb would blow directly through the flames into sasuke, leaving him a bloodied mess. the amaterasu is NOT a good defense agains the tbb. susanoo would do him much much better. plus, i dont think naruto would use the attack at a random point such as in the middle of the fight where sasuke is freely moving and such. yknow what i mean?
What you dont get is Amaterasu will hit Naruto before he Can finish Charging the TBB and if that happens hes dead its over. You can;t when in this arguement i do not understand why you think im staying if naruto shoots TBB sasuke can shoot Amaterasu to clash im not im saying. Naruto will be charging TBB when he gets hit with an Amaterasu and its over theres nothing else you can not argue against this. Naruto Also can not dodge hile charging and holding TBB. So Hes DEAD.
Why don't you get that theres no way to beat this arguement because its souly true.
you know what im talking about douche face don't play dumb and stfu now this is a naruto vs sasuke thread no need 4 you start gayin it up now be a good lil quer and start talkin naruto or sasuke and stop with the shit talkin u_u
What you dont get is Amaterasu will hit Naruto before he Can finish Charging the TBB and if that happens hes dead its over. You can;t when in this arguement i do not understand why you think im staying if naruto shoots TBB sasuke can shoot Amaterasu to clash im not im saying. Naruto will be charging TBB when he gets hit with an Amaterasu and its over theres nothing else you can not argue against this. Naruto Also can not dodge hile charging and holding TBB. So Hes DEAD.
Why don't you get that theres no way to beat this arguement because its souly true.
well naruto isnt an idiot. hes not gonna start using tbb out of the blue. i said that in my previous comment. and i made that point before. of course the process takes time. yes i totally agree, using the attack in the blue will get naruto killed. but recently, ive seen naruto alot smarter than that. whose to say he doesnt distract sasuke somewhere with a clone or something. i dont know that was just an example, point is, yes tbb is very effective and it can work. naruto just has to use it at the correct time. same as kirin. of course if sasuke randomly used it out of the blue it wouldnt work, fast as he is naruto would probably just dodge it. he would have to think.
well naruto isnt an idiot. hes not gonna start using tbb out of the blue. i said that in my previous comment. and i made that point before. of course the process takes time. yes i totally agree, using the attack in the blue will get naruto killed. but recently, ive seen naruto alot smarter than that. whose to say he doesnt distract sasuke somewhere with a clone or something. i dont know that was just an example, point is, yes tbb is very effective and it can work. naruto just has to use it at the correct time. same as kirin. of course if sasuke randomly used it out of the blue it wouldnt work, fast as he is naruto would probably just dodge it. he would have to think.
And Also there is a big as scene everytime TBB is done. He ground makes a giant dent because its so heavy and all the wind begans getting dragged towards the charging thats too noticable. Only time it doesnt make the dent in the floor is when he looks like this:
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Which is way to big to be sneaky. Sorry your argument does not work here either.
1. This is V3 Susano'o we're talking about here, why are you bringing up the bones? Lmao Bones are practically second strongest part. A simply strong hit by A was able to snap a few. So wont a tech than can shatter mountains do damage?
2. Exactly, the EMS Madara you saw is the EMS Sasuke we have now. Madara is said to have mastered all forms of Sharingan powers, has Sasuke reached that point yet?
If a Jin dies so does the tailed beast, so Kurama can do nothing if naruto dies. Thats why Kurama threatened Sasuke, if he tries to kill Naruto he himself will take things to his own hands.
Also You answered your own question, if he has not mastered it what other powers could he have :| That hold for both Naruto and Sasuke.
4. Your argument is invalid since you said "may". And u r arrogant say that u know it wont happen when there is chance to happen.
Quick debate lesson, if your proving a point do not use words like maybe, possible, may or anything that is other then a yes or no. Take a debate class you will hear the same thing. Another lesson u skipped 'dont take probability as a fact'.
5. Are you kidding me? Do you want me to make a thread asking if it's kirin or not. Oro said "that" Jutsu, what other possible jutsu could that be. Sasuke also said "now things end" what other 1 shot jutsu did he have at the time? Sure sure, but a short debate lesson if there is no proof dont speak, especially if there is certain points that prove us assumption wrong.
Same hand Gesture as well
Plus sasuke planted his sword on the ground to act as a lightening rod.
With his Rai Chakra nature and a conducter (the sword) using kirin seems very simple. What ever u say its stated that Kirin uses Natural lightning. But if u prefer to ignore that. See:
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Kirin* (麒麟, Kirin)
Ninjutsu, S-rank, Offensive, Long range (10+m)
User: Uchiha Sasuke
The neighing of an angry divine beast goes down in an attack that shakes the Heavens and moves the Earth!!
The technique Sasuke thought out, said to be the culmination of the Lightning nature. First one uses a technique from the Fire Release line, like the Great Dragon Fire,** to radically heat up the atmosphere, creating a violent updraught. The updraught creates cumulonimbus clouds*** and from the cumulonimbus clouds breaks forth lightning...!! One changes the shape of this lightning, guides it to the target, and uses it to destroy the enemy in a roar that makes even the Heavens tremble. Because this ninjutsu makes good use of a natural phenomenon, one can invoke it using only a small quantity of chakra. Sasuke, aspiring to become the pinnacle of shinobi, finally tamed even "lightning" itself~~.
And Also there is a big as scene everytime TBB is done. He ground makes a giant dent because its so heavy and all the wind begans getting dragged towards the charging thats too noticable. Only time it doesnt make the dent in the floor is when he looks like this:
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Which is way to big to be sneaky. Sorry your argument does not work here either.
yes i think the spirit bomb was pretty big too and what happened with that? i know frieza beat the crap out of him while he was charging it but my point there is frieza didnt notice a thing until it was kinda pointed out to him. he was distracted. but i guess thats besides the point. that first attempt to use it was a failure if i recall, it was probably his first time trying it out and of course naruto was excited to try out his "new technique". as naruto is. when he used it against the tailed beasts, it was at the perfect time, he used it to counter the other tailed beast bomb that was going at him. so like i said using it at the correct time would do some good
yes i think the spirit bomb was pretty big too and what happened with that? i know frieza beat the crap out of him while he was charging it but my point there is frieza didnt notice a thing until it was kinda pointed out to him. he was distracted. but i guess thats besides the point. that first attempt to use it was a failure if i recall, it was probably his first time trying it out and of course naruto was excited to try out his "new technique". as naruto is. when he used it against the tailed beasts, it was at the perfect time, he used it to counter the other tailed beast bomb that was going at him. so like i said using it at the correct time would do some good
First of all the difference is Goku had it miles upward into the air far away from his body when he started charging and Naruto has it point blank infront his chest.Second the point of my posting that picture was to show he uses it out of the blue he did it in fox form too its in plain sight nothing sneaky about it. He's not sneaky with it and i doubt it's possibly to be sneaky with a tech like that. Think of TBB more like Kamahemha like everybody else. IT right there it gets alot of attention and it has to be charged. Only time Goku caught someone off guard is when he teleported infront of cell and shot it point blank which naruto can;t do. TBB can not be used in the equation of Sasuke vs naruto because it's easily countered for sasuke unlike other ninja.
Sasuke: Spam Amatarasu, Spam Susanoo, kirin, hawk summon, Katon, Chidori and variants.
Naruto: Fastest Speed, TBB, Chakra shroud, Sensing capabilities, Clones, Toad Summons(multiple), Rasengan and variants, SM, KM, Increased strength in all forms sensing is more keen than any other sensor in naruto world (current)
You have fun telling me who would win. Because 1 TBB> EMS Full attack Sasuke.
Narutards win because we are right. You tell me how Sasuke could win. He can not suppress Kurama's chakra because they melded it together. And Sasuke only stopped the Fox's influence.
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Their chakra are now one and Sasuke can not affect Naruto's chakra nor the Fox's because they are no longer apart.
First of all the difference is Goku had it miles upward into the air far away from his body when he started charging and Naruto has it point blank infront his chest.Second the point of my posting that picture was to show he uses it out of the blue he did it in fox form too its in plain sight nothing sneaky about it. He's not sneaky with it and i doubt it's possibly to be sneaky with a tech like that. Think of TBB more like Kamahemha like everybody else. IT right there it gets alot of attention and it has to be charged. Only time Goku caught someone off guard is when he teleported infront of cell and shot it point blank which naruto can;t do. TBB can not be used in the equation of Sasuke vs naruto because it's easily countered for sasuke unlike other ninja.
ok i understand now what that picture was for. thanks for the reminder. with that said youve proven your point. but ill go back to a different point being that narutos clones should be enough to hold off sasuke while it charges. narutos known for making a large number of very powerful clones. (also im sorry if your getting frustrated. im just listing off what i know like you are. im not trying to anger anyone im simply being apart of this fun debate. ive got nothing against you or anyone else here. just thought id let you know. but if your not frustrated then ok :3 lets continue)
Lol, the Author seems to be stuck in Part 1 of Naruto and have grown with Sasuke. He seems to have completely ignored Naruto's Growth or the fact that he is on a whole different level as of this moment!
I understand the pain you feel for Sasuke but unless he gets some upgrades he is done for. Naruto Owned Pain(Rinnegan's's's's's's) with just Sage Mode + Kurama (was able to resist his Chakra at point blank range) and now that he has a perfect Bijju Mode -----------------> Sasuke needs more than a pair or Eyes to win.
ok i understand now what that picture was for. thanks for the reminder. with that said youve proven your point. but ill go back to a different point being that narutos clones should be enough to hold off sasuke while it charges. narutos known for making a large number of very powerful clones. (also im sorry if your getting frustrated. im just listing off what i know like you are. im not trying to anger anyone im simply being apart of this fun debate. ive got nothing against you or anyone else here. just thought id let you know. but if your not frustrated then ok :3 lets continue)
O your not angering me your the only one not lmao the others don't even try to make sense but let me try my hand with your situation. The greatest amount of clones we have seen naruto do is this:
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This Tech by Sasuke could either destroy all those clones or destroy most to the point where susanoo could handle the rest. This tech requires no charge. Then he could turn towards the TBB and Amaterasu. OR be smart and attack at the TBB first because the clones can not Touch sasuke physically because Susanoo is covered in Amaterasu which means they would be killing themselves. While they are killing them selves Sasuke does not even have to pay them attention because Blaze Release Susanoo kills them automaticly. So basically he doesnt have to worry about the clones with them dying from touching Susanoo. therefore there is no distraction to keep him from stopping the TBB.
The jutsu i showed you with all the Clones takes up ALL of the 1 Clones charka. When naruto makes 1 Clone that mean his charka is split in half. half in himself half in the clone. So doing this Tech twice would leave naruto defenseless and doing it once is a big waste of chakra following up with TBB woudl nearly leave naruto Drained. I admire narutos stamina and Chakra but he does have his limits. A Tactic like that is Risky and if sasuke plays it smart he can stop it with very little usage of his charkra.
O your not angering me your the only one not lmao the others don't even try to make sense but let me try my hand with your situation. The greatest amount of clones we have seen naruto do is this:
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This Tech by Sasuke could either destroy all those clones or destroy most to the point where susanoo could handle the rest. This tech requires no charge. Then he could turn towards the TBB and Amaterasu. OR be smart and attack at the TBB first because the clones can not Touch sasuke physically because Susanoo is covered in Amaterasu which means they would be killing themselves. While they are killing them selves Sasuke does not even have to pay them attention because Blaze Release Susanoo kills them automaticly. So basically he doesnt have to worry about the clones with them dying from touching Susanoo. therefore there is no distraction to keep him from stopping the TBB.
The jutsu i showed you with all the Clones takes up ALL of the 1 Clones charka. When naruto makes 1 Clone that mean his charka is split in half. half in himself half in the clone. So doing this Tech twice would leave naruto defenseless and doing it once is a big waste of chakra following up with TBB woudl nearly leave naruto Drained. I admire narutos stamina and Chakra but he does have his limits. A Tactic like that is Risky and if sasuke plays it smart he can stop it with very little usage of his charkra.
thats true but given the first time he split with the clones each clone was still powerful enough to take on kage level ninja. not only that, but they managed to maintain the speed the original had. of course eventually each clone in whatever area had to disappear, because like you said naruto was tired. but later on when naruto confronts tobi, he manages a clone again (but i think it took less chakra from him because that clone did not enter kyuubi mode) if a clone were to confront sasuke at current narutos level (assuming naruto has only summoned one clone) then that clone shouldnt have trouble fighting one on one with sasuke. it would be like a normal naruto vs sasuke fight right? thus posing the distraction, or the beginning of the distraction. i know sasuke has dealt with narutos clones before but im not sure if hes ever had to figure out which one is the real naruto, a trick naruto seems to use to his advantage alot. of course sasuke is no idiot (disregarding his recent...actions). also i dont think the clones would just run into the susanoo like that. especialy if its on fire. however your right, there isnt much naruto can do if he does use blaze release, he could only spam the rasenshuriken. however IF im right and sasuke does think that the clone is the real thing, then by time sasuke figures out the truth it would be too late. however like i said sasuke is no idiot, so i dont know if thats a valid arguement, but ill go with it anyway
Sorry but naruto and sasuke are on two different levels. Sasuke is maybe high jounin, low kage, naruto is high kage level. Tbh saying sasuke is as strong as naruto just makes you look bad. :shrug: there's no valid argument besides susano'o and a tbb can wreck that.
