Lmfao! Ikr? But yet people insist that Naruto won that first fight. Sasuke was the last man standing, therefore he was the winner. How hard is that to understand? Sasuke outclasses Naruto, come on people. :sy:[/QUOTE]
"outclassed" should be the right term, but not anymore.
Can u guys tell me: is Kurama made of soap bubbles present outside the sealing barrier?
No it is not, the real guy is solid and very much powerful, Sasuke only supressed the part that naturally leaks out of the seal to provide his chakra to protect Naruto See:
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Jirya says so and also adds that oro's seal stopped the process to make naruto weak. If a person can drink a glass of water can he drink a barrel full of water?
Also someone has to prove that MS or EMS increases the power of suppression of the Sharingan.
PLus ur comparing a bubble monster in
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who can do this
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if he is angry.
Last time Naruto was unprepared and taken aback by Sasuke in his mind, what makes u guys think that he wld be unprepared the next time and wont attack when Sasuke enters naruto's mind?
Also please link me where Sasuke managed to learn Kurama control thingy? Base Sharingan can do Izanagi and Izanami but can Sasuke do it? He didnt even know them.
2. Sasuke Genjutsu one shot:
What is genjutsu?
Genjutsu are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu, requiring chakra and hand seals. However, the primary difference between the two is that the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses.
Nearly every form of genjutsu can be broken by a partner injecting chakra in to the victim to release the genjutsu,See:
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for proof and how elder chyo and Sakura break Itachi's much more powerful genjutsu
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. . . . But for a perfect Jinkchuriki his partner is the biju so the friendly biju can inject chakra into his jink to break the genjutsu as explained by Bee in
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(Danzo said maybe Yagura was a perfect jink, note the maybe)
Now the detail that every one missed: A genjutsu is broken by injecting external chakra, and in KM and BM the external aka Kurama's chakra is already being injected into Naruto's body continiously so if a genjutsu in put on Naruto it will immediately be released due to Kurama's external chakra, bcos of this:
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. . . . Kurama himself pouring his chakra into Naruto just like Sakura and Chiyo.
There is nothing called paralysis genjutsu bcos everyone under a genjutsu goes to a stand still in the real world while they experience strange things in their mind. Much like taking a drug whose effects can be completely stopped instantly.
Plus a few other facts if Naruto keeps his distance and move about at a very high nearly instantaneous speed whose eyes is Sasuke gona look into?
Plus Naruto has his own frog song genjutsu, which does not depend on sight but hearing and can be cast from a great distance.
3. Amaterasu:
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Funny how people dont notice that in the picture only 6-7 Zetsu was set aflame by the Amaterasu Magamata rest are fine behind him. Also how can a person compare a zetsu clone to a flash stepping KM clone that is faster than A?
4. Susano: Well most people are forgetting that Sasuke's range is only at the front, his back side is his blind side. Considering Naruto's flash move Naruto can easily leave some clones to deal with Sasuke at the front while he move behind him to prpare a TBB or something. The clones may be fake but they are equally a threat especially when KM clones that can out run every form of Sasuke's attack.
5. TBB: People say Sasuke can deflect or dodge TBB, the TBB Naruto showed have nearly a mile of destruction radius and can be fired from quite a distance.
Plus why is everyone considering that Sasuke has infinite chakra? After getting EMS Sasuke has shown only: 1 minute of Final Susano *break* <1.5 minute of Final Susano *break* A amaterasu and about 5 minutes of complete susano. There is no proof Sasuke's chakra is higher now or EMS takes less chakra, while Naruto can keep up KM for at least and hour and BM for only 5 mins and if Naruto keeps dodging Sasuke's attacks and keep sending clones to do suicide attacks Sasuke wld run out of Chakra soon and then its game over.
Has none of the people seen the Polls? Even if 50% of them are fanboys and thus deducted Naruto still wins in the polls.
Ok most of the things that you chose to defend against/argue with are things that some people dont even say to defend sasuke. Sasuke doesn't need to supress Kyuubi and no one defends sasuke by saying he will use genjutsu on naruto because we know genjutsus on the level of itachis Tsukoyomi and Shushis KA would be useless. Your arguements for Susanoo are Poor, the arguement on Spread shot amaterasu is weak and so is your arguement that TBB would be unnoticed with Clones attacking sasukes front.
Susanoo is not weak in the back idk why your saying this, if this is your support then i will explain. Danzo Created that gap/opening in susanoo with the combination of these attacks:
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With the Suction from Danzo's summoming it was pulling on Susanoo, which is also tugging on the charkra which began to pull all the charka surrond sasuke which is susanoo towards the front of him. Then Danzo being very smart and resourceful attack from the back side to created more of a gash in susanoo, wind being an impact/push element pushes the chakra more towards the front. Wind also being a cutting element and Danzos attacks being increased by the pull from his Summoning as stated here and showing the attack that helped to created the gap in the back:
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Attacking Susanoo from the back created this :
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Which is the very next page after that attack. Those pages were all one after the other in the order i posted. So Susanoo does not have an opening/ Weakness in the back and even if it did there are 2 things keeping naruto from attacking there and killing sasuke, the fact he does not know of this so called "Weakness" if it did exist and that Susanoo now has this extra layer to cover that:
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Now about Naruto using a clones to attack the front of Sasuke while he charges a somehow "unnoticeable" TBB behind sasuke.
This is what you see from a TBB
1. The ground crack down and makes a giant dent because the Charkra from TBB is so heavy.Orochimaru helps support be my saying it make it harder to move. Source:
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2. There is a Charge. Source:
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3. Theres a Roar. Source: this roar happens with every release or struggle with the tech.
4 Wind there is a big wind that is pushing away from where the source is from check my other pic.
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Your Argument about Amaterasu only hitting those in the front is that really an arguement? i mean yeah if im playing football and im trying to hit someone if there is someone else infront of them and i can only go straight of course im going to hit them, but Amaterasu takes the form of many shapes such as this Sword which would be alot more useful in destroying abunch of naruto clones easily:
Ok most of the things that you chose to defend against/argue with are things that some people dont even say to defend sasuke. Sasuke doesn't need to supress Kyuubi and no one defends sasuke by saying he will use genjutsu on naruto because we know genjutsus on the level of itachis Tsukoyomi and Shushis KA would be useless. Your arguements for Susanoo are Poor, the arguement on Spread shot amaterasu is weak and so is your arguement that TBB would be unnoticed with Clones attacking sasukes front.
Kurama's TBB has the destructive power of all the TBB seen in this pic (Give or take 1):
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Kurama's TBB has the destructive power of all the TBB seen this pic (Give or take 1):
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Susanoo is not weak in the back idk why your saying this, if this is your support then i will explain. Danzo Created that gap/opening in susanoo with the combination of these attacks:
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With the Suction from Danzo's summoming it was pulling on Susanoo, which is also tugging on the charkra which began to pull all the charka surrond sasuke which is susanoo towards the front of him. Then Danzo being very smart and resourceful attack from the back side to created more of a gash in susanoo, wind being an impact/push element pushes the chakra more towards the front. Wind also being a cutting element and Danzos attacks being increased by the pull from his Summoning as stated here and showing the attack that helped to created the gap in the back:
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Attacking Susanoo from the back created this :
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Which is the very next page after that attack. Those pages were all one after the other in the order i posted. So Susanoo does not have an opening/ Weakness in the back and even if it did there are 2 things keeping naruto from attacking there and killing sasuke, the fact he does not know of this so called "Weakness" if it did exist and that Susanoo now has this extra layer to cover that:
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Now about Naruto using a clones to attack the front of Sasuke while he charges a somehow "unnoticeable" TBB behind sasuke. Does Sasuke has 360 degree vision or can look behind and in front of him simultaneously?
This is what you see from a TBB
1. The ground crack down and makes a giant dent because the Charkra from TBB is so heavy.Orochimaru helps support be my saying it make it harder to move. Source:
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2. There is a Charge. Source:
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3. Theres a Roar. Source: this roar happens with every release or struggle with the tech.
4 Wind there is a big wind that is pushing away from where the source is from check my other pic. Ur comparing an old four tail naruto with and forgetting a fully powered BM naruto. A normal human was able to push Susanoo back, Raikage broke a Susano rib and a TBB that breaks blasts mountains cant do a thing?
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Your Argument about Amaterasu only hitting those in the front is that really an arguement? i mean yeah if im playing football and im trying to hit someone if there is someone else infront of them and i can only go straight of course im going to hit them, but Amaterasu takes the form of many shapes such as this Sword which would be alot more useful in destroying abunch of naruto clones easily: U dont get tactics do u? An attack from behind cant be easily noticed and thus can not be easily countered. So KM clones will stand there stupidly without dodgeing? Also what about a TBB or a Frog Song from behind, u havent replied.
U r sadly underrating a TBB that matches the power of 5 biju TBB, they can lay waste to multiple mountains. Plus u dont take into account Naruto's speed. Also i never said Sasuke is weak in his back side, only mentioned that it is his blind side. He cant look back and front at the same time.
Plus why is everyone considering that Sasuke has infinite chakra? After getting EMS Sasuke has shown only: 1 minute of Final Susano *break* <1.5 minute of Final Susano *break* A amaterasu and about 5 minutes of complete susano. There is no proof Sasuke's chakra is higher now or EMS takes less chakra, while Naruto can keep up KM for at least and hour and BM for only 5 mins and if Naruto keeps dodging Sasuke's attacks and keep sending clones to do suicide attacks Sasuke wld run out of Chakra soon and then its game over.
Sadly Anorien, like so many of us that have put the time in to counter everyone of the fanboys points, your post will go unanswered (particularly by the OP). That or they will say your argument is flawed/ weak adn then have nothing to refute your post.
Like mine I demonstrated why TBB would destroy everyone of Sasuke's current susano'o form (with support from the manga). No reply. Asked the OP to reply (twice). No reply. 2-pages later, OP writes "TBB is irrelevant in this discussion".
Sadly Anorien, like so many of us that have put the time in to counter everyone of the fanboys points, your post will go unanswered (particularly by the OP). That or they will say your argument is flawed/ weak adn then have nothing to refute your post.
Like mine I demonstrated why TBB would destroy everyone of Sasuke's current susano'o form (with support from the manga). No reply. Asked the OP to reply (twice). No reply. 2-pages later, OP writes "TBB is irrelevant in this discussion".
Then its better we unite our views and keep spamming the same way they do. Nothing can be achieved without unity. Add or merge my points to urs and keep spamming them like hell. If we all unite our thinking caps it wont be easy to counter. I relinquish my rights to my post to u and all who support this view.
U r sadly underrating a TBB that matches the power of 5 biju TBB, they can lay waste to multiple mountains. Plus u dont take into account Naruto's speed. Also i never said Sasuke is weak in his back side, only mentioned that it is his blind side. He cant look back and front at the same time.
Plus why is everyone considering that Sasuke has infinite chakra? After getting EMS Sasuke has shown only: 1 minute of Final Susano *break* <1.5 minute of Final Susano *break* A amaterasu and about 5 minutes of complete susano. There is no proof Sasuke's chakra is higher now or EMS takes less chakra, while Naruto can keep up KM for at least and hour and BM for only 5 mins and if Naruto keeps dodging Sasuke's attacks and keep sending clones to do suicide attacks Sasuke wld run out of Chakra soon and then its game over.
Ok since you wanna get all in my post and start putting red everywhere lets get into it more since you dont get it.
1. Yo answer your first question no sasuke does not have 360 degrees and nor can he watch both front and back at the same time but which you dont get is sasuke can turn around. ANYBODY CAN TURN AROUND. if he turns around to the main thread a giant fox charging TBB he can Amaterasu that, which you dont get DOESNT REQUIRE A SHIT LOAD OF CHARKA TO DO. The Clones on his front side that hes not watching wont get through Susanoo covered and Amaterasu they are just dying by touching it. He doesnt need to watch both sides just stop the TBB and let the cloens kill themselves.
2. "Tactic" for naruto doesnt work on sasuke because Susanoo guards him 360 degrees and like i said all he has to do is turn around because a Giant Fox Charging and dragging wind towards itself to form a bomb is very noticiable and just Amaterasu it. All this im saying does not require alot of charka of Sasuke cause if you want i can prove it to you.
3. When you i was "Comparing 4 tails to full form" YOU WERE COMPLETELY WRONG. I showed you a picture of TBB, TBB is always the same.Whenhe was in 4 tails it made a dent in the ground when he is full form, THE GIANT FOX HOLDING IT MAKES THE DENT. The fox itself is heavy and shit and the tech is super heavy itself naruto said it himself.
4. Pushing a Susanoo is not a good feat considering susanoo was being pulled with wind in one direction and pushed with wind from the back side. Correction Raikage with a Barrage of attacks broke through Susanoo Ribcage and TBB can not harm the Susanoo simply because Amaterasu is faster than TBB and will kill him.
Do you get it now? i mean seriously. Power means nothing if you cant hit it, if you notice that why people put Raikage above tsuande and claim shes the weakest kage even though shes phyiscally the strongest. Power with any speed is pointless.
I will take the lost here since what i said about this was pure speculation. but i still stick to the fact that when hes that giant fox hes to big a target.
you missed the war bro. the poll was trolled on the highest level . points were proven mostly on sasuke side. the only thing naruto fanboys say is tbb this and bm that.
Ok since you wanna get all in my post and start putting red everywhere lets get into it more since you dont get it.
1. Yo answer your first question no sasuke does not have 360 degrees and nor can he watch both front and back at the same time but which you dont get is sasuke can turn around. ANYBODY CAN TURN AROUND. if he turns around to the main thread a giant fox charging TBB he can Amaterasu that, which you dont get DOESNT REQUIRE A SHIT LOAD OF CHARKA TO DO. The Clones on his front side that hes not watching wont get through Susanoo covered and Amaterasu they are just dying by touching it. He doesnt need to watch both sides just stop the TBB and let the cloens kill themselves. If Sasuke turns his front will become back and vice varsha wont it? Also Sasuke has to know something is going on behind him to turn his attention behind and if the clones keep busy him up front he probably wont have to turn. Clones can jump and send RS way instead of jumping in the fire. Plus by the time Sasuke turns TBB may be complete.
2. "Tactic" for naruto doesnt work on sasuke because Susanoo guards him 360 degrees and like i said all he has to do is turn around because a Giant Fox Charging and dragging wind towards itself to form a bomb is very noticiable and just Amaterasu it. All this im saying does not require alot of charka of Sasuke cause if you want i can prove it to you. LOL u hardly know about TBB, Kurama does not need to draw breath just make a biju chakra rasengan thing which may be complete by the time sasuke turns.
3. When you i was "Comparing 4 tails to full form" YOU WERE COMPLETELY WRONG. I showed you a picture of TBB, TBB is always the same.Whenhe was in 4 tails it made a dent in the ground when he is full form, THE GIANT FOX HOLDING IT MAKES THE DENT. The fox itself is heavy and shit and the tech is super heavy itself naruto said it himself. I suggest u read the new manga chapters, naruto did a TBB that matched the TBB of 5 other biju. Also like a rasengan it depends on the chakra put behind it, it can be regular, large etc
4. Pushing a Susanoo is not a good feat considering susanoo was being pulled with wind in one direction and pushed with wind from the back side. Correction Raikage with a Barrage of attacks broke through Susanoo Ribcage and TBB can not harm the Susanoo simply because Amaterasu is faster than TBB and will kill him. Naruto is faster than Amaterasu or have u forgotten? Also recorrection Raikage with his ligar bomb only broke through Susano ribkage and mei melted them with ease.
Do you get it now? i mean seriously. Power means nothing if you cant hit it, if you notice that why people put Raikage above tsuande and claim shes the weakest kage even though shes phyiscally the strongest. Power with any speed is pointless. Naruto is fater than A or have u forgotten that?
you missed the war bro. the poll was trolled on the highest level . points were proven mostly on sasuke side. the only thing naruto fanboys say is tbb this and bm that.
I will take the lost here since what i said about this was pure speculation. but i still stick to the fact that when hes that giant fox hes to big a target.
haha, like fcl724 said, you missed the war. You could of been part of Naruto Base history. In case you are wondering what the final argument was that they couldnt counter and lost to, here it is below. :scorps:
Yes, he did. With REGURLAR/BASE sharingan. Do you know how big of a difference there is between Base Sharingan and EMS sharingan? Read what Kurama says! It came right out of HIS mouth! Do I really even need to repeat what he said?
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"UNBELIEVABLE, to think that you would be able to suppress my chrakra"
Stop trying to weasle out of this COLD HARD evidence. Its like right there, what more proof could you possibly need?
Look at what else he says. "Eyes with such power even more sinister than my own" "Not at all unlike what I saw in a certain UCHIHA MADARA". Who once controlled Kurama? MADARA did. Who did Kurama compare Sasuke to? UCHIHA MADARA!!!
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People, for christ sake the evidence is RIGHT ABOVE. Therefore, until further notice from the manga, it is safe to say that EMS has the potential to suppres s Kurama's charka!!!
If Sasuke did this with BASE/REGULAR sharingan, what do you think he could do with EMS!?
This just obliterated SOOO many counter arguments on your side dude.
F**k sausgay he's a punk NARUTO!!!!!!!!!! Will dominate sausgay lil queer bags I hate sausgay fans sausgay is just a cocky ***et who thinks he's tuff naruto would have killed sausgay on the hospital roof top if Kakashi hatake wouldn't have stopped the fight or if sakura wouldn't have interfeered in the fight they had on the hidden valley nAruto was holding back cause he didn't want to kill sausgay while sausgay was trying his hardest to kill naruto and stressing out and knowing that he can't kill naruto on the first episodes of shippuden when naruto and Sakura saw sausgay again sausgay only beat naruto because naruto was badly wounded due to the fox cloak while facing orochimaru face it sausgay fans NARUTO will dominate sausgay I'm a naruto fan f**k sausgay queer bag fan ***s
Can u guys tell me: is Kurama made of soap bubbles present outside the sealing barrier?
No it is not, the real guy is solid and very much powerful, Sasuke only supressed the part that naturally leaks out of the seal to provide his chakra to protect Naruto See:
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Jirya says so and also adds that oro's seal stopped the process to make naruto weak. If a person can drink a glass of water can he drink a barrel full of water?
Also someone has to prove that MS or EMS increases the power of suppression of the Sharingan.
PLus ur comparing a bubble monster in
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with the actual monster behind the doors in
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who can do this
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if he is angry.
Last time Naruto was unprepared and taken aback by Sasuke in his mind, what makes u guys think that he wld be unprepared the next time and wont attack when Sasuke enters naruto's mind?
Also please link me where Sasuke managed to learn Kurama control thingy? Base Sharingan can do Izanagi and Izanami but can Sasuke do it? He didnt even know them.
2. Sasuke Genjutsu one shot:
What is genjutsu?
Genjutsu are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu, requiring chakra and hand seals. However, the primary difference between the two is that the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses.
Nearly every form of genjutsu can be broken by a partner injecting chakra in to the victim to release the genjutsu,See:
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for proof and how elder chyo and Sakura break Itachi's much more powerful genjutsu
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and
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. . . . But for a perfect Jinkchuriki his partner is the biju so the friendly biju can inject chakra into his jink to break the genjutsu as explained by Bee in
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(Danzo said maybe Yagura was a perfect jink, note the maybe)
Now the detail that every one missed: A genjutsu is broken by injecting external chakra, and in KM and BM the external aka Kurama's chakra is already being injected into Naruto's body continiously so if a genjutsu in put on Naruto it will immediately be released due to Kurama's external chakra, bcos of this:
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and
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. . . . Kurama himself pouring his chakra into Naruto just like Sakura and Chiyo.
There is nothing called paralysis genjutsu bcos everyone under a genjutsu goes to a stand still in the real world while they experience strange things in their mind. Much like taking a drug whose effects can be completely stopped instantly.
Plus a few other facts if Naruto keeps his distance and move about at a very high nearly instantaneous speed whose eyes is Sasuke gona look into?
Plus Naruto has his own frog song genjutsu, which does not depend on sight but hearing and can be cast from a great distance.
3. Amaterasu:
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Funny how people dont notice that in the picture only 6-7 Zetsu was set aflame by the Amaterasu Magamata rest are fine behind him. Also how can a person compare a zetsu clone to a flash stepping KM clone that is faster than A?
4. Susano: Well most people are forgetting that Sasuke's range is only at the front, his back side is his blind side. Considering Naruto's flash move Naruto can easily leave some clones to deal with Sasuke at the front while he move behind him to prpare a TBB or something. The clones may be fake but they are equally a threat especially when KM clones that can out run every form of Sasuke's attack.
5. TBB: People say Sasuke can deflect or dodge TBB, the TBB Naruto showed have nearly a mile of destruction radius and can be fired from quite a distance.
Plus why is everyone considering that Sasuke has infinite chakra? After getting EMS Sasuke has shown only: 1 minute of Final Susano *break* <1.5 minute of Final Susano *break* A amaterasu and about 5 minutes of complete susano. There is no proof Sasuke's chakra is higher now or EMS takes less chakra, while Naruto can keep up KM for at least and hour and BM for only 5 mins and if Naruto keeps dodging Sasuke's attacks and keep sending clones to do suicide attacks Sasuke wld run out of Chakra soon and then its game over.
Has none of the people seen the Polls? Even if 50% of them are fanboys and thus deducted Naruto still wins in the polls.
haha, like fcl724 said, you missed the war. You could of been part of Naruto Base history. In case you are wondering what the final argument was that they couldnt counter and lost to, here it is below. :scorps:
Can u guys tell me: is Kurama made of soap bubbles present outside the sealing barrier?
No it is not, the real guy is solid and very much powerful, Sasuke only supressed the part that naturally leaks out of the seal to provide his chakra to protect Naruto See:
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Jirya says so and also adds that oro's seal stopped the process to make naruto weak. If a person can drink a glass of water can he drink a barrel full of water?
Also someone has to prove that MS or EMS increases the power of suppression of the Sharingan.
PLus ur comparing a bubble monster in
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with the actual monster behind the doors in
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who can do this
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if he is angry.
Last time Naruto was unprepared and taken aback by Sasuke in his mind, what makes u guys think that he wld be unprepared the next time and wont attack when Sasuke enters naruto's mind?
Also please link me where Sasuke managed to learn Kurama control thingy? Base Sharingan can do Izanagi and Izanami but can Sasuke do it? He didnt even know them.
2. Sasuke Genjutsu one shot:
What is genjutsu?
Genjutsu are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu, requiring chakra and hand seals. However, the primary difference between the two is that the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses.
Nearly every form of genjutsu can be broken by a partner injecting chakra in to the victim to release the genjutsu,See:
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for proof and how elder chyo and Sakura break Itachi's much more powerful genjutsu
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and
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. . . . But for a perfect Jinkchuriki his partner is the biju so the friendly biju can inject chakra into his jink to break the genjutsu as explained by Bee in
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(Danzo said maybe Yagura was a perfect jink, note the maybe)
Now the detail that every one missed: A genjutsu is broken by injecting external chakra, and in KM and BM the external aka Kurama's chakra is already being injected into Naruto's body continiously so if a genjutsu in put on Naruto it will immediately be released due to Kurama's external chakra, bcos of this:
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and
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. . . . Kurama himself pouring his chakra into Naruto just like Sakura and Chiyo.
There is nothing called paralysis genjutsu bcos everyone under a genjutsu goes to a stand still in the real world while they experience strange things in their mind. Much like taking a drug whose effects can be completely stopped instantly.
Plus a few other facts if Naruto keeps his distance and move about at a very high nearly instantaneous speed whose eyes is Sasuke gona look into?
Plus Naruto has his own frog song genjutsu, which does not depend on sight but hearing and can be cast from a great distance.
3. Amaterasu:
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Funny how people dont notice that in the picture only 6-7 Zetsu was set aflame by the Amaterasu Magamata rest are fine behind him. Also how can a person compare a zetsu clone to a flash stepping KM clone that is faster than A?
4. Susano: Well most people are forgetting that Sasuke's range is only at the front, his back side is his blind side. Considering Naruto's flash move Naruto can easily leave some clones to deal with Sasuke at the front while he move behind him to prpare a TBB or something. The clones may be fake but they are equally a threat especially when KM clones that can out run every form of Sasuke's attack.
5. TBB: People say Sasuke can deflect or dodge TBB, the TBB Naruto showed have nearly a mile of destruction radius and can be fired from quite a distance.
Plus why is everyone considering that Sasuke has infinite chakra? After getting EMS Sasuke has shown only: 1 minute of Final Susano *break* <1.5 minute of Final Susano *break* A amaterasu and about 5 minutes of complete susano. There is no proof Sasuke's chakra is higher now or EMS takes less chakra, while Naruto can keep up KM for at least and hour and BM for only 5 mins and if Naruto keeps dodging Sasuke's attacks and keep sending clones to do suicide attacks Sasuke wld run out of Chakra soon and then its game over.
Has none of the people seen the Polls? Even if 50% of them are fanboys and thus deducted Naruto still wins in the polls.
haha, like fcl724 said, you missed the war. You could of been part of Naruto Base history. In case you are wondering what the final argument was that they couldnt counter and lost to, here it is below. :scorps:
That was countered a number of times might I add. Also there is no evidence what so ever that EMS has better Kyuubi controlling potential. It comes down to the user (tobi is a good example). Also Sasuke has never controlled the 9-tails, and even if he did it would take a lot of his concentration to maintain that control.
Naruto also has chakra sealed away independent of the ninetails so I don't really see the point. Naruto would still have access to KM, whilst Sasuke would be very preoccupied and distracted. I don't see how that is a good outcome for him.
Another point you selectively neglect is that what Sasuke suppressed was the small amount of chakra that leaks out of the seal. I highly doubt, since he has never shown experience or tried, that he could maintain control on a chakra form that is said to be infinite. If he could why not do the same thing on Killer Bee when they fought?
Finally Kurama was locked in a cage at that point. If Sasuke tried to enter Naruto's mind again they could curb stomp him, as they have both been shown to be incredibly powerful in naruto's mind, something that Sasuke is unaware of. Also Sasuke doesn't know that Kurama isn't seal anymore.
But I hardly think you will actually respond to this since you seem to have a lot of trouble being able to see my posts.
Ok since you wanna get all in my post and start putting red everywhere lets get into it more since you dont get it.
1. Yo answer your first question no sasuke does not have 360 degrees and nor can he watch both front and back at the same time but which you dont get is sasuke can turn around. ANYBODY CAN TURN AROUND. if he turns around to the main thread a giant fox charging TBB he can Amaterasu that, which you dont get DOESNT REQUIRE A SHIT LOAD OF CHARKA TO DO. The Clones on his front side that hes not watching wont get through Susanoo covered and Amaterasu they are just dying by touching it. He doesnt need to watch both sides just stop the TBB and let the cloens kill themselves.
2. "Tactic" for naruto doesnt work on sasuke because Susanoo guards him 360 degrees and like i said all he has to do is turn around because a Giant Fox Charging and dragging wind towards itself to form a bomb is very noticiable and just Amaterasu it. All this im saying does not require alot of charka of Sasuke cause if you want i can prove it to you.
3. When you i was "Comparing 4 tails to full form" YOU WERE COMPLETELY WRONG. I showed you a picture of TBB, TBB is always the same.Whenhe was in 4 tails it made a dent in the ground when he is full form, THE GIANT FOX HOLDING IT MAKES THE DENT. The fox itself is heavy and shit and the tech is super heavy itself naruto said it himself.
4. Pushing a Susanoo is not a good feat considering susanoo was being pulled with wind in one direction and pushed with wind from the back side. Correction Raikage with a Barrage of attacks broke through Susanoo Ribcage and TBB can not harm the Susanoo simply because Amaterasu is faster than TBB and will kill him.
Do you get it now? i mean seriously. Power means nothing if you cant hit it, if you notice that why people put Raikage above tsuande and claim shes the weakest kage even though shes phyiscally the strongest. Power with any speed is pointless.
If sasuke turns that leaves himself open to being held down by the clones chakra arms. Therefore he is either pinned in place or thrown into an oncoming TBB. Think about it...
haha, like fcl724 said, you missed the war. You could of been part of Naruto Base history. In case you are wondering what the final argument was that they couldnt counter and lost to, here it is below. :scorps:
The war is over bcos Sasuke fanboys were afraid of reason and ran way and only coming back now then to satisfy their ego that they actually didnt lost. They like Sasuke bcos he can put them in a illusion where they are always winners. The poll says everything, but as they are in Sasuke illusion they cant see anything in reality.
Still answer:
So lets go one topic at a time:
1. Sasuke can suppress Kurama:
Can u guys tell me: is Kurama made of soap bubbles present outside the sealing barrier?
No it is not, the real guy is solid and very much powerful, Sasuke only supressed the part that naturally leaks out of the seal to provide his chakra to protect Naruto See:
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Jirya says so and also adds that oro's seal stopped the process to make naruto weak. If a person can drink a glass of water can he drink a barrel full of water?
Also someone has to prove that MS or EMS increases the power of suppression of the Sharingan.
PLus ur comparing a bubble monster in
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with the actual monster behind the doors in
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who can do this
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if he is angry.
Last time Naruto was unprepared and taken aback by Sasuke in his mind, what makes u guys think that he wld be unprepared the next time and wont attack when Sasuke enters naruto's mind?
Also please link me where Sasuke managed to learn Kurama control thingy? Base Sharingan can do Izanagi and Izanami but can Sasuke do it? He didnt even know them.
2. Sasuke Genjutsu one shot:
What is genjutsu?
Genjutsu are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu, requiring chakra and hand seals. However, the primary difference between the two is that the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses.
Nearly every form of genjutsu can be broken by a partner injecting chakra in to the victim to release the genjutsu,See:
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for proof and how elder chyo and Sakura break Itachi's much more powerful genjutsu
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. . . . But for a perfect Jinkchuriki his partner is the biju so the friendly biju can inject chakra into his jink to break the genjutsu as explained by Bee in
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(Danzo said maybe Yagura was a perfect jink, note the maybe)
Now the detail that every one missed: A genjutsu is broken by injecting external chakra, and in KM and BM the external aka Kurama's chakra is already being injected into Naruto's body continiously so if a genjutsu in put on Naruto it will immediately be released due to Kurama's external chakra, bcos of this:
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. . . . Kurama himself pouring his chakra into Naruto just like Sakura and Chiyo.
There is nothing called paralysis genjutsu bcos everyone under a genjutsu goes to a stand still in the real world while they experience strange things in their mind. Much like taking a drug whose effects can be completely stopped instantly.
Plus a few other facts if Naruto keeps his distance and move about at a very high nearly instantaneous speed whose eyes is Sasuke gona look into?
Plus Naruto has his own frog song genjutsu, which does not depend on sight but hearing and can be cast from a great distance.
3. Amaterasu:
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Funny how people dont notice that in the picture only 6-7 Zetsu was set aflame by the Amaterasu Magamata rest are fine behind him. Also how can a person compare a zetsu clone to a flash stepping KM clone that is faster than A?
4. Susano: Well most people are forgetting that Sasuke's range is only at the front, his back side is his blind side. Considering Naruto's flash move Naruto can easily leave some clones to deal with Sasuke at the front while he move behind him to prpare a TBB or something. The clones may be fake but they are equally a threat especially when KM clones that can out run every form of Sasuke's attack.
5. TBB: People say Sasuke can deflect or dodge TBB, the TBB Naruto showed have nearly a mile of destruction radius and can be fired from quite a distance.
Plus why is everyone considering that Sasuke has infinite chakra? After getting EMS Sasuke has shown only: 1 minute of Final Susano *break* <1.5 minute of Final Susano *break* A amaterasu and about 5 minutes of complete susano. There is no proof Sasuke's chakra is higher now or EMS takes less chakra, while Naruto can keep up KM for at least and hour and BM for only 5 mins and if Naruto keeps dodging Sasuke's attacks and keep sending clones to do suicide attacks Sasuke wld run out of Chakra soon and then its game over.
Naruto's TBB destructive power is near combination the all the destructive power of all the TBB in this picture:
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Naruto goes BM and deflects all the TBB with speed alone. See:
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- Transformation to Bm begins and Hachi is surprised.
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- Transformation is complete, see Naruto's thick whisker marks that are the characteristic of BM
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- Naruto deflects 5 TBB with speed alone
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Kurama called Sasuke's powerful eyes and chakra sinister, which means evil not powerful.
Has none of the people seen the Polls? Even if 50% of them are fanboys and thus deducted Naruto still wins in the polls.
Might I add that Sasuke's Susano'o is without a doubt his strongest weapon. Now if we look at Madara's perfect susano'o, a form that is far superior to Sasuke's we can get some perspective. For starters this susano'o was able to destroy a mountain, something that the Bijuu dama's that naruto deflected all did as well. Now if we look at Naruto's Bijuu dama, it is equal to 5 TBB and therefore has the potential to destroy 5 mountains. This exceeds the power demonstrated by Madara's perfect susano'o (so far), and Madara's perfect susano'o far exceeds Sasuke's susano'o forms...so its not that hard to work out.
Naruto can quite easily make KM clones (if you haven't noticed) but then the original can shift into BM. With their speed they can easily position themselves so Sasuke has to decide which on to face KM clones or turn to face BM naruto. If he faces BM then the clones can bind him in place with chakra arms so he can't evade the TBB. If he faces the KM clones he risks a TBB to the back of the head...
