Why do people keep saying that Sasuke is no match for current Naruto?

[MickNerks]

I want an ANSWER from those of you who presented this argument earlier.

Im going to say this again. Due to the COLD HARD evidence above, it is safe to make an accusation until further notice that EMS can suppress Kurama's chakra.

EMS is not gonna increase the power to supress.. You keep trying to argue that his EMS will allow him to supress a perfect Jinchuriki.. This is fiction not fact.

 

[Οdin]

HMM i am not taking a side right now, just wanted to show MS helps in controlling kyubi

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Yeah... controlling Kurama from the outside. It sates nothing about controlling him from within a Perfect Jinchuriki's body, nor does it state that it can suppress all of Kurama's power.

 

[Ninpou]

What is the point though, if he was lying how would that help him. Sasuke would know he was lying if he released it himself. The genjutsu is the effect. What Cee felt was the aftermath. Sasuke was trying to get away whereas when he was fighting Bee he was trying to capture him so he would use it in a way that allows him to do this. A five second paralysis jutsu will not cut it if he wants to capture a high level shinobi and someone of Sasuke's intelligence would know this. Getting away is a different matter.

It would help him because Sasuke wouldnt atempt it a again. No one can release Sharingan Genjustu by them self so i dont see the point in that statment. The genjustu isnt the effect, its the attack, If one was to punch someone in the face the punch would be the attack and the pain would be the effect of the punch. Aftermath and effect are the same thing. If he was trying to get away do you think he would have stood there with the 8 tails behind him?

 

[HugoStiglitz]

Hello everyone!!!! I would now join in with the fun but theres no way I'm gonna read 83 pages...

I can summarize it for you if you'd like.

Pages 1-83: MidKnight stroking his own ego and declaring victory over a nonexistent opponent.

There are lulz to be had, here and there, but mostly it's just one mans idiocy.

 

[Gooner4life]

Ok so i think edo madara's susanoo is way better than sasuke's? if you agree just read what madara said on this page

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That is a good argument so the OP will probably just ignore it xd

 

[HashiramaDescendant]

Naruto wears Sasuke as a belt. That's how much he owns.

 

[Οdin]

It would help him because Sasuke wouldnt atempt it a again. No one can release Sharingan Genjustu by them self so i dont see the point in that statment. The genjustu isnt the effect, its the attack, If one was to punch someone in the face the punch would be the attack and the pain would be the effect of the punch. Aftermath and effect are the same thing. If he was trying to get away do you think he would have stood there with the 8 tails behind him?

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No one can release a Sharingan Genjutsu?

She proves your statement wrong:

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[ShiroT]

The fact that it shows that Sasuke can suppress beast chakara means that he can SUPPRESS beast chakara. No one knows at what level he can do it on but from the looks of when he did it, obviously he can do it on a much higher scale. What I am stating about Tobi and how it refers back to Sasuke is the fact that Sasuke put Naruto in an genjutsu and he was able to ACTUALLY see the tailed beast within him. The reason that this is somewhat evidence is the fact that Sasuke can actually see and interact with the tailed beast within Naruto which means that Tobi can obviously do it as well. Which goes back to how Tobi was able to control the kid with his tailed beast within him. There is a reason why Sasuke was compared to Madara right there in that scene.

where did it say he used genjutsu to get in his mind. its very unrealistic to say sasuke can suppress all of the kyuubi's chakra.

 

[TheSages456]

Who said anything about Rasenshuriken? :| But don't say it won't. It actually packs a lot of power; power that can cut mountains and make Kurama say "what kind of power is this".

is this the page:

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kurama doesnt say "what kind of power is this", he says "how on earth is he so powerful". hes not talking about rasenshuriken specifically but about how naruto on a whole was overpowering him.

 

[MickNerks]

HMM i am not taking a side right now, just wanted to show MS helps in controlling kyubi

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we know a sharigan can control a kyuubi (tailed beast w/o host). We are talking about it supressing a Bijuu (tailed beast and host transfermation)

 

[Ninpou]

dude the genjutsu itself is to paralyze you if you are paralyzed wouldn't that mean you are under the genjutsu since it has to be active to take effect?

The genjustu paralyses you and leaves an effect. didnt you see how Cee was still paralised while Sasuke was fighting the Raikage? The gen dosent have to be active to have its effect infact the effect comes after the gen finshes. Like when you hit someone and he hit KO's them. Genjustu is the hit and the effect is the KO.

 

[tatonation39]

This is for all those sasuke fans in denial 1. when sasuke fought the Raikage in the kage summit his Ameterasu cant hit or keep up with the Raikage at full speed boom. 2 if you remember in chapter 544 two suns in page 10 it clearly shows the Raikage going full speed to hit Naruto in the face a good picture of how close he was and i page 12 shows how fast Naruto dipped on the Raikage without even trying to use full force. p.s Raikage was braking through Sasukes Susanoo but garra stopped it. 3. Sasuke shoots his arrow at Kabuto in sage mode and missed him like a loser ok. Naruto in sage mode will own Sasuke do to the fact that if Kabuto who wasnt even close to mastering the snake sage mode did that to sasuke imagine Naruto to has sage mode on check that can shadow clone 5 more extra sage modes and release them to keep his sage mode going ok and not even maxed out Bijuu mode before him and Kurama became cool Naruto will not only outrun him but he will punch sasuke soo hard that sasuke would not even be able to active his EMS to use Ameterasu like yea Sasuke is strong but on the real not stronger then Naruto. there has been alot of examples of naruto's new powers in other characters that he does that arent as strong as naruto and sasuke couldn't even dream of beating. Pain alone enough said. these two characters have different drives narutos is for friends that he see's as family and his village and sasuke as a brother. Sasuke only wants to kill for itachi. Itachi himself knows naruto can beat sasuke thats it nomore needs to be said

 

[HugoStiglitz]

lmao boom fire style jutsu, amatersu spamming to make distance between them both. i dont think it takes sasuke more than 30 secs at the most to prepare but we dont know for sure so we cant claim facts. but if sasuke had enough time to perform gg naruto. or naruto injury beyond healing aka gg naruto

btw all you need is powerfull enuff fire style to creat the clouds and the rest is sasukes jutus

....LOLWUT.

Pure speculation, and ALOT of it.

If you are going to make a statement such as that, at least base it in something resembling reality and not just your fevered, childish mind.

Honestly, I don't know what to make of 50% of the shit you say.:sy:

 

[Ninpou]

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No one can release a Sharingan Genjutsu?

She proves your statement wrong:

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lol? Give me proof and ill admit im wrong.

 

[Οdin]

is this the page:

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kurama doesnt say "what kind of power is this", he says "how on earth is he so powerful". hes not talking about rasenshuriken specifically but about how naruto on a whole was overpowering him.

I used another manga site. :shrug: But this page doesn't prove anything anyways. You can see that he is speaking after Naruto hit him with Rasenshuriken. I'm not saying that Rasenshuriken can break Susano'o, but I also won't say it can't.

 

[MidKnight]

get over yourself he suppressed a tiny bit of chakra leaking out the seal

Yes, he did. With REGURLAR/BASE sharingan. Do you know how big of a difference there is between Base Sharingan and EMS sharingan? Read what Kurama says! It came right out of HIS mouth! Do I really even need to repeat what he said?

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"UNBELIEVABLE, to think that you would be able to suppress my chrakra"


Stop trying to weasle out of this COLD HARD evidence. Its like right there, what more proof could you possibly need?

Look at what else he says. "Eyes with such power even more sinister than my own" "Not at all unlike what I saw in a certain UCHIHA MADARA". Who once controlled Kurama? MADARA did. Who did Kurama compare Sasuke to? UCHIHA MADARA!!!

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People, for christ sake the evidence is RIGHT ABOVE. Therefore, until further notice from the manga, it is safe to say that EMS has the potential to suppres s Kurama's charka!!!

If Sasuke did this with BASE/REGULAR sharingan, what do you think he could do with EMS!?

This just obliterated SOOO many counter arguments on your side dude.

 

[Gooner4life]

It would help him because Sasuke wouldnt atempt it a again. No one can release Sharingan Genjustu by them self so i dont see the point in that statment. The genjustu isnt the effect, its the attack, If one was to punch someone in the face the punch would be the attack and the pain would be the effect of the punch. Aftermath and effect are the same thing. If he was trying to get away do you think he would have stood there with the 8 tails behind him?

He would know Bee was lying though as he would have released it himself
Let me give you a different analogy. Say you are drinking heavily. The effect is the damage you do to your liver. The aftermath is the hangover. What Cee felt was the hangover of the genjutsu if you like. Him lying there motionless is the effect

 

[Οdin]

lol? Give me proof and ill admit im wrong.

Remember this? Yeah... that's her and Itachi having a genjutsu fight. Right there was when she released it.

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[Naruto king of Shinobi]

lmao boom fire style jutsu, amatersu spamming to make distance between them both. i dont think it takes sasuke more than 30 secs at the most to prepare but we dont know for sure so we cant claim facts. but if sasuke had enough time to perform gg naruto. or naruto injury beyond healing aka gg naruto

btw all you need is powerfull enuff fire style to creat the clouds and the rest is sasukes jutus

NONE of those jutsu would even touch Naruto >_>

 

[ShiroT]

It would help him because Sasuke wouldnt atempt it a again. No one can release Sharingan Genjustu by them self so i dont see the point in that statment. The genjustu isnt the effect, its the attack, If one was to punch someone in the face the punch would be the attack and the pain would be the effect of the punch. Aftermath and effect are the same thing. If he was trying to get away do you think he would have stood there with the 8 tails behind him?

jiraya said(or somebody else) you can release any genjutsu by force and disturbing your own chakra which takes alot of will power. the paralyzing is the genjutsu and any genjutsu can be released. after being released theres no telling what the after effect might be in cee's situation it could be that he's still alittle paralyzed. bee said it to himself his bijuu had to release the genjutsu not out loud so sasuke would'nt have heard him