Why do people keep saying that Sasuke is no match for current Naruto?

[ShiroT]

C'mon man, you know that's terrible logic. Half the base thinks Edo Madara is unstoppable and clearly that's not going to be the point when he loses to the Kage.


@Eveeyrone saying "Why didn't sasuke do it on hachibi"

1. Clearly it's plot, had Sasuke raped Killer Bee that day nobody would be able to teach Naruto KM.

2. Do not change the subject, I asked to provide proof as to why he can do it to Kurama if it's already been done to him/ the mizukage. Are you honestly going to tell me that if he can't do it to 8 tails he can't do it to kurama even though he has already shown that he's done it? :|

3. It was stated Sharingan controlled Kurama, not every single tailed beast. However 4th Mizukage was under the control of sharingan (by tobi) so it could be an advance version of control.

So for all we know Hachibi can;t be controlled by sharingan, regardless It still works on Kurama as I;ve shown proof.

1. clearly sasuke almost died 3 times so it looks like he got raped
2. it was leaking chakra all he did was push it back in the seal, but there is no seal now. if you think he can suppress the whole f**************ing kyuubi smh U_U
4. it is unknown what genjutsu the 4th mizukage was under , it could be a non sharingan jutsu for all we know.

 

[HugoStiglitz]

I noticed how some of you are saying that if Sasuke could supress the chakra of Kurama, then why did he do it against Killer Bee. Here is why.



Judging by the LARGE power gaps between MS and EMS its is safe to say that Sasuke can possibly suppress Kurama's Chakra. We all know that the Sharingan possesses the ability. If he surpessed Kurama's chakra during their first encounter with BASE/REGULAR Sharingan, then what makes you think that he can do that same thing with EMS!?!?

MS, EMS. Learn the difference people.

Here's a thought, why not try and resist the urge to be a douchebag when you are explaining things? I know it must be so terribly hard for you to do, but can you not give it a try?

It'd do LOADS for making you come off as something less than a completely self-righteous *******.

 

[Itachi Minato]

I noticed how some of you are saying that if Sasuke could supress the chakra of Kurama, then why did he do it against Killer Bee. Here is why.

These are the eyes that Sasuke fought Bee with (MS)

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And THESE are Sauke's eyes as of now (EMS)

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Judging by the LARGE power gaps between MS and EMS its is safe to say that Sasuke can possibly suppress Kurama's Chakra. We all know that the Sharingan possesses the ability. If he surpessed Kurama's chakra during their first encounter with BASE/REGULAR Sharingan, then what makes you think that he can do that same thing with EMS!?!?

MS, EMS. Learn the difference people.

hmmm manga said saying that ems would do that

 

[Οdin]

Oh i think tobi got rinnegan just recently ,
With rinnegan, wonder can happen

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It was just a thought, clearly you failed to understand that.

My points still stands , Perfect jinchuriki are immune to KA.


And Yagura even being a perfect jinchuriki got controlled by a sharingan user.

SMH

Good thinking.

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C'mon man, you know that's terrible logic. Half the base thinks Edo Madara is unstoppable and clearly that's not going to be the point when he loses to the Kage.


@Eveeyrone saying "Why didn't sasuke do it on hachibi"

1. Clearly it's plot, had Sasuke raped Killer Bee that day nobody would be able to teach Naruto KM.

2. Do not change the subject, I asked to provide proof as to why he can do it to Kurama if it's already been done to him/ the mizukage. Are you honestly going to tell me that if he can't do it to 8 tails he can't do it to kurama even though he has already shown that he's done it? :|

3. It was stated Sharingan controlled Kurama, not every single tailed beast. However 4th Mizukage was under the control of sharingan (by tobi) so it could be an advance version of control.

So for all we know Hachibi can;t be controlled by sharingan, regardless It still works on Kurama as I;ve shown proof.

1. Ok. Plot says that Naruto >= Sasuke, not Sasuke > Naruto. End of thread. U_U

2. He can't suppress all ok Kurama's chakra.

3. *Sigh* It is believed that Yagura was under Kotoamatsukami.

4. @Bold: So the Sharingan can control the most powerful Bijuu, but it can't control the weaker one? :|

Your "proof" shows Sasuke suppressing the chakra that was leaking out of the sealing. He can't suppress all of Kurama's chakra.​

 

[MickNerks]

Uh, hello? Can I get an answer for this? What makes Kurama immune to the effect of EMS in terms of its potential to suppress/control him? Now you people are underestimating the Sharingan completely, which is BS.

EMS STOPS PEOPLE FROM GOING BLIND... nothing else suggest it gives people new powers so can you please stop grasping at straws and come to us with facts.

 

[HugoStiglitz]

Tobi and Madara both controlled the Kyuubi with 3t sharingan, when Madara at least had EMS. There is no evidence that improving your eyes improves your ability to suppress Kurama's is pure speculation and is just as speculative if not more than the TBB arguments. Does your ability to copy techniques increase with MS, no showing that not every ability improves

No, there is no evidence to suggest so. He suppress Kurama's chakra by pushing it back into the seal. With no seal existent where is he going to push the chakra back to? This must be at least the fifth time I've said this :sy:

It won't be the last time you say it either, i'd wager.

Any legit point we seem to make is lost in the sea of ignorance and flat out stupidity.

Many of us are STILL waiting on MidKnight to make even a remotely intelligent remark to our statements.

 

[MidKnight]

stop being stupid... Stop giving ems new power ups... Stop trolling

Im trolling!?!? The proof is RIGHT here! Look at what Kurama says

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"UNBELIVABLE,To think that you would be able to Suppress my power"

If Sasuke can do this with BASE/REGULAR sharingan, then what makes you think he cant to that with these!?

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/your argument

 

[Zato]

he didn't even suppress that much chakra and it was leaking. its unexplained how tobi controls that kid. he's afraid of him because he controlled him before not suppressed

You are missing what I am saying. I am saying that the fact Sasuke was able to do to Naruto and the 9tails chakara is somewhat evidence of how Tobi was able to control the kid while his tailed beast was inside of him. If Sasuke can enter Naruto's mind through genjutsu or w/e it was and see the actual 9tails and have a conversation as well is very telling on how Tobi did what he did. The fact Sasuke had no trouble at all suppressing that chakara from the 9tails shows that he can handle A LOT more if he needed to. That scene was obviously shown for a reason.

 

[Gooner4life]

It won't be the last time you say it either, i'd wager.

Any legit point we seem to make is lost in the sea of ignorance and flat out stupidity.

Many of us are STILL waiting on MidKnight to make even a remotely intelligent remark to our statements.

Bro, I'm beginning to like you man, everything you have said about this thread has been spot on.

 

[Οdin]

no matter how fast something is, the sharingan slows it down. sasukes body however cant react to the speed so it is meaningless. this disadvantage is made up for by susano.

I already told you that Sasuke's Sharingan was not able to keep up with Raikage V2. If his Sharingan can't keep up with Raikage V2, what makes you think it'll be able to keep up with BM Naruto?

Also, what good will Sasuke's Susano'o do? Susano'o has been shown to break when hit with a powerful force. Naruto has more than enough power to break Sasuke's current Susano'o.

 

[ShiroT]

1. tell me where in my post did i say shit about naruto not being a sensor ninja now? stfu and stop trying makeing yourself look even more stop than you are narugay fanboy.:flaw::flaw::flaw:

2. you never said i was saying naruto could be killed by amatersu? look at the underline that you said. once again stop makeing shit up kid you really look foolish now, your reverting to makeing up shit to hope i wouldnt call you out on your bs gg narugay fanboy
. ps dont ever quote me again because im not wasteing my time with you
sasuke>naruto

lol we have countered everything you've said so what still makes you think sasuke>naruto?

 

[Gooner4life]

Im trolling!?!? The proof is RIGHT here! Look at what Kurama says

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"UNBELIVABLE,To think that you would be able to Suppress my power"

If Sasuke can do this with BASE/REGULAR sharingan, then what makes you think he cant to that with these!?

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/your argument

Why ignore an actual counter and pick on a nothing statement. Justify your arrogance and actually counter the arguments people are making.

 

[TheSages456]

In these mangas we read right to left.. on the right at the bottom kakashi says Sensei. then guys ask is that naruto, which shows that they recognize a figure, then tobi say "he blocked it".. so because guy could see naruto when he stopped moving im gonna assume that tobi saw him to.. not because of sharigan, but because he stopped moving.

tobi flat out stated that naruto reflected the bijuu damas. if he couldnt see naruto then why would he say that. we saw that narutos body was covered by the dust.

 

[ShiroT]

You are missing what I am saying. I am saying that the fact Sasuke was able to do to Naruto and the 9tails chakara is somewhat evidence of how Tobi was able to control the kid while his tailed beast was inside of him. If Sasuke can enter Naruto's mind through genjutsu or w/e it was and see the actual 9tails and have a conversation as well is very telling on how Tobi did what he did. The fact Sasuke had no trouble at all suppressing that chakara from the 9tails shows that he can handle A LOT more if he needed to. That scene was obviously shown for a reason.

that is not evidence. your mixing the point that a little bit off chakra leaked out the seal and all he did was suppress the little bit that leaked out? if you think he can suppress the whole kyuubi than you must be out your mind. What makes you think he can suppress the whole kyuubi something(i think) only the first hokage was able to do, madara and tobi only controlled him. We don't know what that genjutsu was and its been shown that all the recent attempts to put a host under a genjutsu failed.

 

[Ninpou]

darui was holding him (cee).. darui could have released it for him.

The genjustu was already over so theres nothing to release.

lol see you just said it release

Release the effect, not the genjustu

In that situation, Sasuke could've meant it to be quick acting so he could get away quickly. Sasuke barely knew what he was doing when he cast that genjutsu on Bee, there is no evidence he intended to do this with Bee.
Let me ask you a question. Do you explain how you did something when you didn't actually do it? Seems rather pointless to me.

No evidence he intended to use it? But he did. If we all used the No evidence arguement then there would be no point debating anything to do with Naruto.
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[HugoStiglitz]

Bro, I'm beginning to like you man, everything you have said about this thread has been spot on.

I wasn't even really intending to throw my two cents into this argument until MidKnights rampant asshattery became apparent.

So really, he's the author of his own downfall. He created this thread, and in one fell, retarded swoop, he destroyed it as well.

This thread should become a treatise on what not to do when you are attempting to prove a point.

MidKnight is LOL, just....LOL.

 

[MidKnight]

Im trolling!?!? The proof is RIGHT here! Look at what Kurama says

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"UNBELIVABLE,To think that you would be able to Suppress my power"

If Sasuke can do this with BASE/REGULAR sharingan, then what makes you think he cant to that with these!?

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/your argument

HA! Where is your answer for this huh? Due to the evidence which is RIGHT above, it is safe to make an accusation that EMS can suppress Kurama's chakra

Why ignore an actual counter and pick on a nothing statement. Justify your arrogance and actually counter the arguments people are making.

Lmfao! YOU GUYS are the ones who made that statement. So now you are calling me a lie? How is my statement out of nothing, when you guys have been using this logic to "counter" our Sharingan accusations?

 

[MickNerks]

Im trolling!?!? The proof is RIGHT here! Look at what Kurama says

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"UNBELIVABLE,To think that you would be able to Suppress my power"

If Sasuke can do this with BASE/REGULAR sharingan, then what makes you think he cant to that with these!?

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/your argument

EMS is not gonna increase the power to supress.. You keep trying to argue that his EMS will allow him to supress a perfect Jinchuriki.. This is fiction not fact.

 

[isaac nzoley]

What did naruto do?
-Get saved by itachi
-Almost died to Nagato (again)
-Got saved By Kakashi and Gai
-Looks ****ed up and has not scratched tobi?

Yeah i think sasuke can do a little better then that.



Oh did he? I guess we Imagined the 5 kage, Itachi, Kakashi, Gai, and Bee huh?

So? Do u tink sasuke in ems mode would have stood a chance against tobi and even nagato. He wouldn't even b able to stand against sage mode kabuto let alone juubi naruto.

 

[Gooner4life]

The genjustu was already over so theres nothing to release.


Release the effect, not the genjustu


No evidence he intended to use it? But he did. If we all used the No evidence arguement then there would be no point debating anything to do with Naruto.
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What is the point though, if he was lying how would that help him. Sasuke would know he was lying if he released it himself. The genjutsu is the effect. What Cee felt was the aftermath. Sasuke was trying to get away whereas when he was fighting Bee he was trying to capture him so he would use it in a way that allows him to do this. A five second paralysis jutsu will not cut it if he wants to capture a high level shinobi and someone of Sasuke's intelligence would know this. Getting away is a different matter.