Why do people keep saying that Sasuke is no match for current Naruto?

[ShiroT]

You won?

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All you said was that Tobi is too old to control/suppress Kurama. And you are wrong. The man was controlling 6-7 Bijuu. Your age argument is nothing but crap.

You also said that Madara was the one controlling Yagura. Also wrong. If he could control Yagura... then why didn't he control/suppress Kurama's chakra when he and Naruto faced each other? U_U

lol how do you make that laughing face, i cant find it.

 

[Gooner4life]

Cee was hit by Sasuke Paralysis gen and he couldnt move but the genjustu isnt still going on is it?

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Replace Cee with Bee and Bee would recover in this situation because he has the Hachibi to release him from the effect.

In that situation, Sasuke could've meant it to be quick acting so he could get away quickly. Sasuke barely knew what he was doing when he cast that genjutsu on Bee, there is no evidence he intended to do this with Bee.

Let me ask you a question. Do you explain how you did something when you didn't actually do it? Seems rather pointless to me.

 

[ShiroT]

Not sure who him refers to.
The genjustu stopped when Bee hit the floor, sameway it stopped when Cee hit the floor. Difference is Cee isnt a jinchuriki and has no one to release it for him.

lol see you just said it release

 

[MickNerks]

You won?

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All you said was that Tobi is too old to control/suppress Kurama. And you are wrong. The man was controlling 6-7 Bijuu. Your age argument is nothing but crap.

You also said that Madara was the one controlling Yagura. Also wrong. If he could control Yagura... then why didn't he control/suppress Kurama's chakra when he and Naruto faced each other? U_U

There are alot of ignorant uchiha sasuke fanboy comments on this thread.. Where did they all come from smh :sy:

 

[MickNerks]

Not sure who him refers to.
The genjustu stopped when Bee hit the floor, sameway it stopped when Cee hit the floor. Difference is Cee isnt a jinchuriki and has no one to release it for him.

darui was holding him (cee).. darui could have released it for him.

 

[MidKnight]

I noticed how some of you are saying that if Sasuke could supress the chakra of Kurama, then why did he do it against Killer Bee. Here is why.

These are the eyes that Sasuke fought Bee with (MS)

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And THESE are Sauke's eyes as of now (EMS)

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Judging by the LARGE power gaps between MS and EMS its is safe to say that Sasuke can possibly suppress Kurama's Chakra. We all know that the Sharingan possesses the ability. If he surpessed Kurama's chakra during their first encounter with BASE/REGULAR Sharingan, then what makes you think that he can do that same thing with EMS!?!?

MS, EMS. Learn the difference people.

 

[Zato]

logic would be that he can't suppress the whole f************ing kyuubi just because he pushed a tiny bit of chakra back through a seal, which is now gone U_U

The fact that Sasuke basically pinches the chakara which causes it to pop tells you he can suppress a large amount of chakara if he needed to. It would explain why Tobi was able to control that kid(forgot his name) while his tailed beast was inside of him. Why do you think the 9tails was so afraid of Madara in the first place? Its obvious that they can manipulate and control tailed beast. The same goes for Hashirama and him being able to tame tailed beast. Both of these abilities are gifted from the SO6P bloodline.

 

[ShiroT]

Not sure who him refers to.
The genjustu stopped when Bee hit the floor, sameway it stopped when Cee hit the floor. Difference is Cee isnt a jinchuriki and has no one to release it for him.

and plus you can release yourself from a genjutsu

 

[TheSages456]

Though im not one of the people you saytalk abuot the 1000000000000+ kcm clones, i think when Hibachi noted the sharingan he was talking about regular movements. naruto hd not shown any great speed feats at that time of the battle.. Just a thought though. you can read if you want.

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it wasnt stated anywhere that their sharingan only saw through regular movement

as you can see here tobi actually saw naruto reflect the bijuu damas and comments on it.

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no matter how fast something is the sharingan will slow it down. this is meaningless however if your body cant react. sasukes body cant react to the speed but this disadvantage is made up for by susano.

i think naruto would win but it would be a hard fight. he doesnt take this with ease at all.

 

[Οdin]

both sides have their share of retarded fanboys. i dont know why people think that sasuke can suppress narutos bijuu mode. at the beginning of shipudden he suppressed about 0.5% of the kyuubis chakra who was restricted to handing naruto tiny bits of chakra through a cage. there is no way in hell, he is suppressing all of kuramas chakra, especially since its unrestricted.

the naruto fanboys act like naruto is gonna make 1000000000000000+ kcm clones and is gonna blitz sasuke from all over the place. people dont know how clones work with bijuu mode naruto and its quite pathetic hearing naruto fanboys preach about his speed when it was obviously no problem for the edo jinchuriki or nagato. it was even stated that narutos movements were being seen through with their sharingan so i dont know why they think narutos gonna blitz sasuke and rasengan him.

I'm not the one speaking about the 1000000000000000+ clones.

Now, if you go back to Raikage vs. Sasuke, you can see that Sasuke and his Sharingan were not able to keep up with Raikage V2. We know that KM Naruto is faster than Raikage and that BM Naruto is faster than KM... so Sasuke won't be able to keep up with BM Naruto.

 

[Frikid]

You won?

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All you said was that Tobi is too old to control/suppress Kurama. And you are wrong. The man was controlling 6-7 Bijuu. Your age argument is nothing but crap.

You also said that Madara was the one controlling Yagura. Also wrong. If he could control Yagura... then why didn't he control/suppress Kurama's chakra when he and Naruto faced each other? U_U

Oh i think tobi got rinnegan just recently ,
With rinnegan, wonder can happen

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It was just a thought, clearly you failed to understand that.

My points still stands , Perfect jinchuriki are immune to KA.


And Yagura even being a perfect jinchuriki got controlled by a sharingan user.

SMH

 

[ShiroT]

The fact that Sasuke basically pinches the chakara which causes it to pop tells you he can suppress a large amount of chakara if he needed to. It would explain why Tobi was able to control that kid(forgot his name) while his tailed beast was inside of him. Why do you think the 9tails was so afraid of Madara in the first place? Its obvious that they can manipulate and tailed beast. The same goes for Hashirama and him being able to tame tailed beast. Both of these abilities are gifted from the SO6P bloodline.

he didn't even suppress that much chakra and it was leaking. its unexplained how tobi controls that kid. he's afraid of him because he controlled him before not suppressed

 

[ShiroT]

Oh i think tobi got rinnegan just recently ,
With rinnegan, wonder can happen

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It was just a thought, clearly you failed to understand that.

My points still stands , Perfect jinchuriki are immune to KA.


And Yagura even being a perfect jinchuriki got controlled by a sharingan user.

SMH

but we don't know how

 

[Cerox0]

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i wonder what is the point of asking others to judge your arguments/posts when you just won't accept what others think of your posts

C'mon man, you know that's terrible logic. Half the base thinks Edo Madara is unstoppable and clearly that's not going to be the point when he loses to the Kage.


@Eveeyrone saying "Why didn't sasuke do it on hachibi"

1. Clearly it's plot, had Sasuke raped Killer Bee that day nobody would be able to teach Naruto KM.

2. Do not change the subject, I asked to provide proof as to why he can't do it to Kurama if it's already been done to him/ the mizukage. Are you honestly going to tell me that if he can't do it to 8 tails he can't do it to kurama even though he has already shown that he's done it? :|

3. It was stated Sharingan controlled Kurama, not every single tailed beast. However 4th Mizukage was under the control of sharingan (by tobi) so it could be an advance version of control.

So for all we know Hachibi can;t be controlled by sharingan, regardless It still works on Kurama as I;ve shown proof.

 

[MickNerks]

i noticed how some of you are saying that if sasuke could supress the chakra of kurama, then why did he do it against killer bee. Here is why.

these are the eyes that sasuke fought bee with (ms)

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and these are sauke's eyes as of now (ems)

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judging by the large power gaps between ms and ems its is safe to say that sasuke can possibly suppress kurama's chakra. We all know that the sharingan possesses the ability. If he surpessed kurama's chakra during their first encounter with base/regular sharingan, then what makes you think that he can do that same thing with ems!?!?

Ms, ems. Learn the difference people.

stop being stupid... Stop giving ems new power ups... Stop trolling

 

[MidKnight]

I noticed how some of you are saying that if Sasuke could supress the chakra of Kurama, then why did he do it against Killer Bee. Here is why.

These are the eyes that Sasuke fought Bee with (MS)

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And THESE are Sauke's eyes as of now (EMS)

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Judging by the LARGE power gaps between MS and EMS its is safe to say that Sasuke can possibly suppress Kurama's Chakra. We all know that the Sharingan possesses the ability. If he surpessed Kurama's chakra during their first encounter with BASE/REGULAR Sharingan, then what makes you think that he can do that same thing with EMS!?!?

MS, EMS. Learn the difference people.

Uh, hello? Can I get an answer for this? What makes Kurama immune to the effect of EMS in terms of its potential to suppress/control him? Now you people are underestimating the Sharingan completely, which is BS.

 

[TheSages456]

I'm not the one speaking about the 1000000000000000+ clones.

Now, if you go back to Raikage vs. Sasuke, you can see that Sasuke and his Sharingan were not able to keep up with Raikage V2. We know that KM Naruto is faster than Raikage and that BM Naruto is faster than KM... so Sasuke won't be able to keep up with BM Naruto.

no matter how fast something is, the sharingan slows it down. sasukes body however cant react to the speed so it is meaningless. this disadvantage is made up for by susano.

 

[RavingNeko]

i wouldnt say sasuke is NO match for naruto. i think theyre pretty much equally matched but naruto is just a little better. if they do fight though, i wouldnt expect it to last like 10 minutes. it would probably last several episodes since theyre so evenly matched
*im not neutral btw, im TOTALLY rooting for naruto*

 

[MickNerks]

I noticed how some of you are saying that if Sasuke could supress the chakra of Kurama, then why did he do it against Killer Bee. Here is why.

These are the eyes that Sasuke fought Bee with (MS)

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And THESE are Sauke's eyes as of now (EMS)

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Judging by the LARGE power gaps between MS and EMS its is safe to say that Sasuke can possibly suppress Kurama's Chakra. We all know that the Sharingan possesses the ability. If he surpessed Kurama's chakra during their first encounter with BASE/REGULAR Sharingan, then what makes you think that he can do that same thing with EMS!?!?

MS, EMS. Learn the difference people.

it wasnt stated anywhere that their sharingan only saw through regular movement

as you can see here tobi actually saw naruto reflect the bijuu damas and comments on it.

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no matter how fast something is the sharingan will slow it down. this is meaningless however if your body cant react. sasukes body cant react to the speed but this disadvantage is made up for by susano.

i think naruto would win but it would be a hard fight. he doesnt take this with ease at all.

In these mangas we read right to left.. on the right at the bottom kakashi says Sensei. then guys ask is that naruto, which shows that they recognize a figure, then tobi say "he blocked it".. so because guy could see naruto when he stopped moving im gonna assume that tobi saw him to.. not because of sharigan, but because he stopped moving.

 

[Gooner4life]

I noticed how some of you are saying that if Sasuke could supress the chakra of Kurama, then why did he do it against Killer Bee. Here is why.

These are the eyes that Sasuke fought Bee with (MS)

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And THESE are Sauke's eyes as of now (EMS)

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Judging by the LARGE power gaps between MS and EMS its is safe to say that Sasuke can possibly suppress Kurama's Chakra. We all know that the Sharingan possesses the ability. If he surpessed Kurama's chakra during their first encounter with BASE/REGULAR Sharingan, then what makes you think that he can do that same thing with EMS!?!?

MS, EMS. Learn the difference people.

Tobi and Madara both controlled the Kyuubi with 3t sharingan, when Madara at least had EMS. There is no evidence that improving your eyes improves your ability to suppress Kurama's is pure speculation and is just as speculative if not more than the TBB arguments. Does your ability to copy techniques increase with MS, no showing that not every ability improves

No, there is no evidence to suggest so. He suppress Kurama's chakra by pushing it back into the seal. With no seal existent where is he going to push the chakra back to? This must be at least the fifth time I've said this :sy: