Why do people keep saying that Sasuke is no match for current Naruto?

[Frikid]

I have one question for people on Sasuke's side. How does he counter a TBB?

Answer :

Who says he have to dodge TBB?

he will just use amaterasu will TBB is forming its shape :sy:
With it, TBB will be either cancelled or just blast..

EMS madara saw through hashirama's perfect wood clone,

What makes you think sasuke can't see through naruto's shadow clones?
Sasuke will just target at the original one and boom , 50+ clones gone poof!

ANd you really think naruto can throw 50 FRS at once :sy:

 

[sulanis]

Because people are entitled to there opinion?

 

[MickNerks]

1.no where in the manga does it state this. so once again opionions by naruto fans arnt relevent at least i quote the manga and not make shit up gg.:sy:

2. i never said amatersu could kill naruto, i said he wouldnt even use it unless its against shadow clones. so re read the thread before you make shit up that i didnt even say. gg again kid

:sy::sy::sy: eton before naruto attacks in range could kill him is what i said. note raikage vs sasuke at the end garra saved raikage from possiable being burnt to death or sasuke being killed once again come at me with some facts that are from the manga or stfu

WTF are you talking about.. Everyone knows naruto can sense...

1. Naruto is a sensor:

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2. You didnt say anything about amaterasu and i never said you did.. I was just letting you know that it is useless against naruto.

 

[Ninpou]

1. Invalid. Raikage was forced by Madara to look into his eyes. Did you not see Susano'o's hand forcing Raikage to look into Madara's eyes? :sy:

2. *Sigh* A. Bee was released from Itachi's genjutsu. B. Sasuke placed a genjutsu on Bee, but his Bijuu released it. Now, if you say Sasuke can cast a genjutsu on Naruto... what is the point of casting it if Naruto will recover from it?

3. Keep telling yourself that.

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1. It wasnt forcing him to look, Madara could have just crushed him if thats the case.
2. A. Im the one whole keeps telling you this while your getting it mixed up wit the Sasuke fight. B. He Biju released the effect, not the genjustu. The point is that it will leave an opening.

no it doesnt

No what dosent?

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Is Killer Bee wrong here?

The Hachibi dosent release the genjutsu, It releases the effect and speeds up recovery.
When Bee says he cant move his body the genjustu has already ended.

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[Gooner4life]

He is incapable of taking a step back and admitting his mistake.

How many times now has he outright said "I WON, YOU LOSE!"

Im not sure what his definition of debate is, but going by his previous jackassed comments, im going to go out on a limb and say he doesn't know WTF he's even talking about.

Im still waiting on him to answer the numerous points and arguments people have put to him that he is flat out ignoring.

He is way too arrogant to regard opposing points, what a stupid debate. Ninpou is the only one that has actually argued and held it up single-handedly. People like MidKnight aren't worth arguing with

 

[HugoStiglitz]

Because people are entitled to there opinion?

Apparently not where MidKnight is from.

The only thing you are entitled to there is the right to be a jackass and the right to act like you are the hottest shit since nuclear fission.

 

[MickNerks]

I'm kinda "feeling guilty" (sorry for you guys) now that everyone saw how 5 people (me,Ninpou,Cerox0,Uchiha Mike,flcl724) annihilated literally hundreds of arguments. We just made NarurtoBase History.

Due to the logics that we have provided MASSIVE evidence with, here are the things In this match up that are non plausible.

1.TBB (Due to lack of evidence on both ends)

2.Toad Summons

3.Rasenshuriken

4.SM Naruto

5.Shadow Clone Spamming (Shadow Clones)

We have already proved that Narutos MAIN jutsu (shadow clones) is nearly useless in this fight. WHAT CAN NARUTO DO? If we have countered all of these arguments and logics, explain how can Naruto defeat Sasuke w/o mentioning ANY of the things I just listed above.

You never proved that clones and RS are useless.. try again

 

[Frikid]

*Sigh* Why do you keep bringing that up?

If Tobi could do the same to Naruto, then why didn't he do it when they both clashed for the first time?

There can be many reasons ...

HE was ill at the time ,
He is too old to do that. ( you see there is a large time gap between the two incidents)

or maybe The one controlling Yagura wasn't tobi but madara itself O.O (just a thought , xd )

 

[ShiroT]

Answer :

so if sasuke is surround by naruto's and they all use a TB he can't target them all so then what?

 

[HugoStiglitz]

He is way too arrogant to regard opposing points, what a stupid debate. Ninpou is the only one that has actually argued and held it up single-handedly. People like MidKnight aren't worth arguing with

Agreed.

Many of us have tried, unsuccessfully, to bring him back on topic to answer for his statements. Many of us have tried, and failed.

I find it astounding that he authored a thread that was supposed to be an intelligent debate, yet he was also the same person that caused it to degenerate into a retarded fanboy-frenzy.

There are simply no grounds for acting so flat out egotistical and asinine.

 

[ShiroT]

1. It wasnt forcing him to look, Madara could have just crushed him if thats the case.
2. A. Im the one whole keeps telling you this while your getting it mixed up wit the Sasuke fight. B. He Biju released the effect, not the genjustu. The point is that it will leave an opening.

No what dosent?


The Hachibi dosent release the genjutsu, It releases the effect and speeds up recovery.
When Bee says he cant move his body the genjustu has already ended.

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lol i brought the wiki out for you and your telling me the wiki is wrong?

 

[MidKnight]

*Sigh* Why do you keep bringing that up?

If Tobi could do the same to Naruto, then why didn't he do it when they both clashed for the first time?

Becasue he was controlling the paths!!! Which in term takes the controllers FULL concentration AND a large amount of chakra in order to manipulate them.

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And dont forget that KILLER BEE was there with Naruto to counter Tobi if he had done so. That TWO reasons why, and the manga page above reinforces this logic. Therefore, it is safe to say that it is HIGHLY possible that Sasuke can use EMS to supress Kurama's Chakra.

 

[Gooner4life]

1. It wasnt forcing him to look, Madara could have just crushed him if thats the case.
2. A. Im the one whole keeps telling you this while your getting it mixed up wit the Sasuke fight. B. He Biju released the effect, not the genjustu. The point is that it will leave an opening.

No what dosent?


The Hachibi dosent release the genjutsu, It releases the effect and speeds up recovery.
When Bee says he cant move his body the genjustu has already ended.

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You clearly don't know how a genjutsu is broken so let me explain

From Naruto wiki: The ninja needs to stop the flow of chakra in their body, and then apply an even stronger power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra; this is called Genjutsu Dissipation (幻術解, Genjutsu Kai). This can also be done by an unaffected ninja by applying a sudden surge of chakra into the affected person. In addition, tailed beasts can break their jinchūriki out of genjutsu in a similar fashion if they have a good enough cooperation, as seen in Killer B's case.

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Why would Killer Bee explain how this works if it would be irrelevant as 'it had already finished'

 

[Frikid]

so if sasuke is surround by naruto's and they all use a TB he can't target them all so then what?

Do you know how much chakra it takes to create one TBB ?

Naruto clones doing TBBs ...

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[ShiroT]

1. It wasnt forcing him to look, Madara could have just crushed him if thats the case.
2. A. Im the one whole keeps telling you this while your getting it mixed up wit the Sasuke fight. B. He Biju released the effect, not the genjustu. The point is that it will leave an opening.

No what dosent?


The Hachibi dosent release the genjutsu, It releases the effect and speeds up recovery.
When Bee says he cant move his body the genjustu has already ended.

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and i genjutsu doesn't end just because the user closes there eyes

 

[Οdin]

1. It wasnt forcing him to look, Madara could have just crushed him if thats the case.
2. A. Im the one whole keeps telling you this while your getting it mixed up wit the Sasuke fight. B. He Biju released the effect, not the genjustu. The point is that it will leave an opening.

1. Just read the manga again.
2. Just read the manga again.

The Hachibi dosent release the genjutsu, It releases the effect and speeds up recovery.
When Bee says he cant move his body the genjustu has already ended.

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1. Your logic is just... :sy: Why are you trying to prove that Bee is wrong?

2. Then why does it matter if Sasuke can place a genjutsu on Naruto? If the genjutsu will fade and Kurama can just release the effect... why do you keep using this whole genjutsu argument? :sy:

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Best thread ever made?

 

[TheSages456]

i dont think sasuke would win but he would give naruto an extremely hard fight. naruto would in no way beat sasuke with ease like people are saying.

 

[ShiroT]

Do you know how much chakra it takes to create one TBB ?

Naruto clones doing TBBs ...

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do you know how much chakra naruto has?

 

[ShiroT]

Becasue he was controlling the paths!!! Which in term takes the controllers FULL concentration AND a large amount of chakra in order to manipulate them.

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And dont forget that KILLER BEE was there with Naruto to counter Tobi if he had done so. That TWO reasons why, and the manga page above reinforces this logic. Therefore, it is safe to say that it is HIGHLY possible that Sasuke can use EMS to supress Kurama's Chakra.

that page doesn't prove that sasuke can suppress kurama