Why do people keep saying that Sasuke is no match for current Naruto?

[soulless uchiha]

:shrug: your wasteing your time the naruto fans in this thread dont care about facts and edvience as seen thurout this threa. all they say is opionions and ideas none of it are facts expect narutos known jutsu and bm etc... still no answer how naruto will fair against genjutsu that is shown to have caught 8tails bee,[ before they were hollering that this couldnt happen because of perfect jincuh.. but i showed proof.


or how naruto can avoid haveing the 9 tails charka surpressed from him to relie on. sasuke was 3 tome when he did this :sy:. imagine what he could do and how longer he could do it to the nine tails now. espically after haveing fought the 9tails/naruto over 5 times

he can't supress anything if there is no seal. madara can't do it, but sasuke can?:sy::sy:naruto can also go into the depths of his mind and fight sasuke, while the naruto clones in the real world can kill him

 

[MidKnight]

People, we are talking about Naruto vs Sasuke, not ****ing Goku vs Vegeta. If you think that In the Narutoverse that Raw Power is everything, then you must have been watching another ****ing version of Naruto than the rest of us. SOOOO many people in the Narutoverse have proven countless times that Rawpower/Superior Prowess isnt everything.

If you want to think that raw power determines who is the strongest, then I would suggest an Anime/Manga Called DRAGON BALL Z

Exactly U_U. If Sasuke can do this with regular Sharingan, what effect do you think EMS will have in this scenario?

Is that really yalls best logic, is that Naruto cant get his ass handed to him becasuse of the name of the show!? What are you twelve? Answer the question above.

If Sasuke's REGULAR Sharingan had that effect on Naruto and Kurama, what do you think that EMS could do in that same scenario. Its is PROVEN from the manga that the Sharingan possess the ability to control Kurama.

It was even confirmed by Orochimaru that Sasuke's eyes will surpass Itachi's.

Us riding Sasuke? No, you guys are all riding Naruto just because of his power up, just like everybody is now riding Madara. And as soon as its proven that he can be defeated, you guys will jump off his balls and go to the next hyped up character which atm is Naruto.

You guys are just frustrated because we have put up probably the best argument for Sasuke that anyone has done in a LONG time. Get over your little Goku,BM Naruto fetish. And REALIZE that any shinobi can be defeated. You guys are so simple minded. Going by who has the strongest techs.? Thats bullshit.

This isnt ****ing Dragon Ball Z. This is the Narutoverse, and raw power/overwelming force isnt everything.

I would like someone, and I mean anyone tell me what Kurama will do against this?

Madara

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Tobi

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Sasuke (Looks at Naruto)

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Tells the fox to sit the **** down.

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No more Nine Tails Chakra.

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So can anyone tell me how Naruto will prevent Kurama from being an Uchiha bitch all over again?

LOL! Look how the Narutards avoided this ETHER. Lmfao. No one has quoted me here. This thread just ethered you guys so much and you dont even realise it. Me,Ninpou,Cerox0,Uchiha Mike, and a few others obliterated ALL of your fail arguments. If we hadn't of proved a point then this thread would of been long dead, because you guys know its the truth .

I'm sorry we exposed your overhyped Goku Naruto. Now please, go watch Dragon Ball Z, because obviously that's what you think Naruto is now. We have proved 1000 post ago that in the Narutoverse, Superior Prowess doesn't NOT make you the superior shinobi.

This is Naruto vs Sasuke, not Goku vs Vegeta. Now gtfo, we have embarrassed you guys enough.

 

[MickNerks]

:shrug: your wasteing your time the naruto fans in this thread dont care about facts and edvience as seen thurout this threa. all they say is opionions and ideas none of it are facts expect narutos known jutsu and bm etc... still no answer how naruto will fair against genjutsu that is shown to have caught 8tails bee,[ before they were hollering that this couldnt happen because of perfect jincuh.. but i showed proof.


or how naruto can avoid haveing the 9 tails charka surpressed from him to relie on. sasuke was 3 tome when he did this :sy:. imagine what he could do and how longer he could do it to the nine tails now. espically after haveing fought the 9tails/naruto over 5 times

Ill give you facts.

1. Genjutsu.. Naruto is a sensor now with both sage and kyuubi mode so he doesnt have to look sasuke in the eyes..

2. Suppression.. Saskuke suppressed kurama when he was locked in a cage and he was leaking his chakra to naruto.. Because of the killer Bee vs. sasuke fight, i kinda proves that sasuke cant supress perfect jinchuriki's chakra.

3. Amaterseru... Stop saying that sauke will burn naruto.. Naruto an all of his clones can not be caught by it.. Once again: Raikage dodged it, naruto dodged raikage, naruto can dodge amatersu...

Now i have presented you facts.. the ball is in your court..

 

[Οdin]

:shrug: your wasteing your time the naruto fans in this thread dont care about facts and edvience as seen thurout this threa. all they say is opionions and ideas none of it are facts expect narutos known jutsu and bm etc... still no answer how naruto will fair against genjutsu that is shown to have caught 8tails bee,[ before they were hollering that this couldnt happen because of perfect jincuh.. but i showed proof.


or how naruto can avoid haveing the 9 tails charka surpressed from him to relie on. sasuke was 3 tome when he did this :sy:. imagine what he could do and how longer he could do it to the nine tails now. espically after haveing fought the 9tails/naruto over 5 times

IKR,
But i CANNOT LET sasuke lose like this :shrug:

Call in more people, and we might DOMINATE naruto fanboys xd

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Go read the previous posts.

 

[Ninpou]

Sheesh KM chakra has a different source than just Kurama see this page:

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Also if Naruto has multiple clones and can move away at a rate faster than A (Whose speed even overtook MS) whose eyes wld Sasuke look into to put under a genjutsu?
Plus have u forgotten Madara (yes Madara who has a contract with Kurama) failed to control Kurama inside Naruto, how can Sasuke do that then?
Even if Sasuke gains control, what can he make Kurama do? bash at the walls? Do a moon walk? Naruto just needs kurama's chakra not his obedience. Plus we dont even know if Sasuke has learnt to control kurama yet.

Its still the Kyuubi's chakra isnt it? Meaning the sharingan can control it.

Who's going back a few steps? :|

1. Raikage was forced to look into Madara's eyes. So invalid argument.

2. I know Naruto is not the brightest, but it really doesn't matter if he looks into Sasuke's eyes. Sasuke can't suppress Kurama's full chakra. Even if Naruto does look into Sasukes' eyes... it won't matter. Already told you that genjutsu doesn't work on Perfect Jinchuriki.

3. We have addressed this already.

1. Forced to look in so its invald? LOL

2. The same thing that happend to Bee will happen. Genjustu works I already proved it. Your going in circles.

Your going back because you changed your arguement from " Hachibi broke him out of it" to "Genjustu dosent end every fight" and now your saying " genjutsu doesn't work on Perfect Jinchuriki".

 

[Nikashu]

Are you people STILL denying the fact that Amaterasu,Susanoo,and Sasuke s superior intellect could jam all of Naruto's main approaches? Naruto wouldn't even be able to get his rhythm flowing. Please answer this question, what is Naruto s main approach? Shadow clone jutsu. And with CONSTANT pressure from Amaterasu and Susanoo Naruto isn't going to be able to set Sasuke up like he has done his other opponents, get real with the FACTS people!

You people really think Sasuke is just going to sit there and let him go into Kyuubi/Bijuu mode w/o any retaliation? And if Amaterasu does connect and if Naruto does find a way to counter it, this is going to leave him VULNERABLE.

What happened to Negato? He let his guard down for a few seconds and the BOOM, Itachi caught him with Susanoo and sealed him. We all know that Susanoo arrow is WAY faster than a melee attack from Itachi s Susanoo.

And PLEASE explain how Naruto will counter Enton covered Final Susanoo. U_U NOBODY has answered this question.

Yes, we arem because you're wrong, which has been proven by many statements. Naruto moves at the speed of light. Sasuke's arrow, could not catch him. there's no way. also, exactly how long do you think it takes for Naruto to go Bijuu mode? from what i remember, not very long at all. seconds, even. and again, can Nagato move at light speed? no, he can't. so don't compare him to Naruto. Enton covered final susano'o, still has the same flaws as the other susano'o. you're obviously not reading all of the posts on this, because it's already been stated that Naruto's kyuubi charka arms can go underground to pull sasuke out of his susano'o. and Sasuke can't effectively dodge that, because he would have to leave his susano'o (a basically stationary defense). And, you still say it as if Naruto is still a stupid kid, he is far smarter now, and he doesn't only use shadow clones. I'm not saying this will be an easy fight at all, but i'm gonna say Naruto wins high diff, and probably only because of his will power in the end (i think they will both be drained of chakra in the end, but naruto will pull through as he always has.)

 

[Nikashu]

Are you people STILL denying the fact that Amaterasu,Susanoo,and Sasuke s superior intellect could jam all of Naruto's main approaches? Naruto wouldn't even be able to get his rhythm flowing. Please answer this question, what is Naruto s main approach? Shadow clone jutsu. And with CONSTANT pressure from Amaterasu and Susanoo Naruto isn't going to be able to set Sasuke up like he has done his other opponents, get real with the FACTS people!

You people really think Sasuke is just going to sit there and let him go into Kyuubi/Bijuu mode w/o any retaliation? And if Amaterasu does connect and if Naruto does find a way to counter it, this is going to leave him VULNERABLE.

What happened to Negato? He let his guard down for a few seconds and the BOOM, Itachi caught him with Susanoo and sealed him. We all know that Susanoo arrow is WAY faster than a melee attack from Itachi s Susanoo.

And PLEASE explain how Naruto will counter Enton covered Final Susanoo. U_U NOBODY has answered this question.

Yes, we are because you're wrong, which has been proven by many statements. Naruto moves at the speed of light. Sasuke's arrow, could not catch him. there's no way. also, exactly how long do you think it takes for Naruto to go Bijuu mode? from what i remember, not very long at all. seconds, even. and again, can Nagato move at light speed? no, he can't. so don't compare him to Naruto. Enton covered final susano'o, still has the same flaws as the other susano'o. you're obviously not reading all of the posts on this, because it's already been stated that Naruto's kyuubi charka arms can go underground to pull sasuke out of his susano'o. and Sasuke can't effectively dodge that, because he would have to leave his susano'o (a basically stationary defense). And, you still say it as if Naruto is still a stupid kid, he is far smarter now, and he doesn't only use shadow clones. I'm not saying this will be an easy fight at all, but i'm gonna say Naruto wins high diff, and probably only because of his will power in the end (i think they will both be drained of chakra in the end, but naruto will pull through as he always has.)

 

[Gooner4life]

LOL! Look how the Narutards avoided this ETHER. Lmfao. No one has quoted me here. This thread just ethered you guys so much and you dont even realise it. Me,Ninpou,Cerox0,Uchiha Mike, and a few others obliterated ALL of your fail arguments. If we hadn't of proved a point then this thread would of been long dead, because you guys know its the truth .

I'm sorry we exposed your overhyped Goku Naruto. Now please, go watch Dragon Ball Z, because obviously that's what you think Naruto is now. We have proved 1000 post ago that in the Narutoverse, Superior Prowess doesn't NOT make you the superior shinobi.

This is Naruto vs Sasuke, not Goku vs Vegeta. Now gtfo, we have embarrassed you guys enough.

Every single point we have countered, you clearly don't pay enough attention to your own thread or are too biased and arrogant to even consider the arguments, which is pointless if you are going to call it a debate.

 

[soulless uchiha]

LOL! Look how the Narutards avoided this ETHER. Lmfao. No one has quoted me here. This thread just ethered you guys so much and you dont even realise it. Me,Ninpou,Cerox0,Uchiha Mike, and a few others obliterated ALL of your fail arguments. If we hadn't of proved a point then this thread would of been long dead, because you guys know its the truth .

I'm sorry we exposed your overhyped Goku Naruto. Now please, go watch Dragon Ball Z, because obviously that's what you think Naruto is now. We have proved 1000 post ago that in the Narutoverse, Superior Prowess doesn't NOT make you the superior shinobi.

This is Naruto vs Sasuke, not Goku vs Vegeta. Now gtfo, we have embarrassed you guys enough.

you are comparing sasukes prowess with genjutsus to tobi's? you are also comparing early base part 2 naruto against all that he has learned

 

[Ninpou]

Naruto moves at the speed of light.

Speed of light? Be real.

 

[Anorien16]

LOL! Look how the Narutards avoided this ETHER. Lmfao. No one has quoted me here. This thread just ethered you guys so much and you dont even realise it. Me,Ninpou,Cerox0,Uchiha Mike, and a few others obliterated ALL of your fail arguments. If we hadn't of proved a point then this thread would of been long dead, because you guys know its the truth .

I'm sorry we exposed your overhyped Goku Naruto. Now please, go watch Dragon Ball Z, because obviously that's what you think Naruto is now. We have proved 1000 post ago that in the Narutoverse, Superior Prowess doesn't NOT make you the superior shinobi.

This is Naruto vs Sasuke, not Goku vs Vegeta. Now gtfo, we have embarrassed you guys enough.

I ask u two questions:

1. When did Sasuke learn to do Kurama control thingy?

2. Is the actual Kurama made of soap bubbles present outside the seal doors?

 

[Οdin]

LOL! Look how the Narutards avoided this ETHER. Lmfao. No one has quoted me here. This thread just ethered you guys so much and you dont even realise it. Me,Ninpou,Cerox0,Uchiha Mike, and a few others obliterated ALL of your fail arguments. If we hadn't of proved a point then this thread would of been long dead, because you guys know its the truth .

I'm sorry we exposed your overhyped Goku Naruto. Now please, go watch Dragon Ball Z, because obviously that's what you think Naruto is now. We have proved 1000 post ago that in the Narutoverse, Superior Prowess doesn't NOT make you the superior shinobi.

This is Naruto vs Sasuke, not Goku vs Vegeta. Now gtfo, we have embarrassed you guys enough.

Countered a long time ago.

Its still the Kyuubi's chakra isnt it? Meaning the sharingan can control it.


1. Forced to look in so its invald? LOL

2. The same thing that happend to Bee will happen. Genjustu works I already proved it. Your going in circles.

Your going back because you changed your arguement from " Hachibi broke him out of it" to "Genjustu dosent end every fight" and now your saying " genjutsu doesn't work on Perfect Jinchuriki".

1. Yeah... invalid. U_U Raikage would have never looked into his eyes.

2. *Sigh* I already told you that a Perfect Jinchuriki is affected by genjutsu, but the Bijuu will eventually release it. This is why I say it doesn't work.

3. I'm not going back on anything. You just can't understand what I tell you.

 

[soulless uchiha]

Speed of light? Get the f*ck out of here.

minato was called the yellow flash for a reason. naruto can now compare to that speed.

 

[ShiroT]

Amaterasu!
Naruto wouldn't risk his toads to get hit by it would he ?

If naruto Did fake himself as a FRS , sasuke would immediately know it, you forgot he have sharingan ??

and it doesn't take long for sasuke to aim at naruto either,
He would be amaterasu'd before complete his FRS , as amaterasu speed >> FRS formation speed.



naruto would be to fast for sasuke to aim a amterasu at him

 

[Gooner4life]

Its still the Kyuubi's chakra isnt it? Meaning the sharingan can control it.


1. Forced to look in so its invald? LOL

2. The same thing that happend to Bee will happen. Genjustu works I already proved it. Your going in circles.

Your going back because you changed your arguement from " Hachibi broke him out of it" to "Genjustu dosent end every fight" and now your saying " genjutsu doesn't work on Perfect Jinchuriki".

He cannot control it, he can suppress it, pushing it back into the seal. If there is an open seal he cannot push it back in can he :sy:. The Uchiha control Kurama using genjutsu, you are forgetting that Naruto could also disrupt Kurama's chakra and break him out of a genjutsu as he is accessible now.

What Son of Odin has said has been consistently the same message: a tailed beast can break its jinchuuriki out of genjutsu. It is as simple as that.

 

[Hipster Madara]

Are you serious? this is still going?
I thought it was decided Naruto won a long time ago. Even midknight said it.

 

[Gooner4life]

Are you serious? this is still going?
I thought it was decided Naruto won a long time ago. Even midknight said it.

They just won't give up.........and I'm trying to get my post count up so :shrug: xd

 

[ShiroT]

:shrug: your wasteing your time the naruto fans in this thread dont care about facts and edvience as seen thurout this threa. all they say is opionions and ideas none of it are facts expect narutos known jutsu and bm etc... still no answer how naruto will fair against genjutsu that is shown to have caught 8tails bee,[ before they were hollering that this couldnt happen because of perfect jincuh.. but i showed proof.


or how naruto can avoid haveing the 9 tails charka surpressed from him to relie on. sasuke was 3 tome when he did this :sy:. imagine what he could do and how longer he could do it to the nine tails now. espically after haveing fought the 9tails/naruto over 5 times

lol again the kyuube or any bijuu can break any genjutsu on there host. sasuke suppressed LEAKING CHAKRA There is no more leaking chakra its just the kyuubi not and if you think sasuke can suppress the whole thing then im speechless :sy:

 

[MickNerks]

LOL! Look how the Narutards avoided this ETHER. Lmfao. No one has quoted me here. This thread just ethered you guys so much and you dont even realise it. Me,Ninpou,Cerox0,Uchiha Mike, and a few others obliterated ALL of your fail arguments. If we hadn't of proved a point then this thread would of been long dead, because you guys know its the truth .

I'm sorry we exposed your overhyped Goku Naruto. Now please, go watch Dragon Ball Z, because obviously that's what you think Naruto is now. We have proved 1000 post ago that in the Narutoverse, Superior Prowess doesn't NOT make you the superior shinobi.

This is Naruto vs Sasuke, not Goku vs Vegeta. Now gtfo, we have embarrassed you guys enough.

Post 1. Post one has no argument

post 2. Post 2, nothing has proven that EMS advances sasuke's abilty to supress.. Madara, Tobi, and sasuke all you base sharingan when the supress or control. And madara and sasuke had EMS and MS when they did it which proves EMS gives u new ailities but doesnt enhance base sharigans powers.

Post 3. Same answer as 2, plus he would have demonstrated on killer B, if your argument was true.

Post 4. You havent giving us arguements that we havent countered. If you disagree, list then right now and i will prove them wrong right now so this can be squashed.

Post 5. same answer as 2 and 3

 

[Ninpou]

Countered a long time ago.



1. Yeah... invalid. U_U Raikage would have never looked into his eyes.

2. *Sigh* I already told you that a Perfect Jinchuriki is affected by genjutsu, but the Bijuu will eventually release it. This is why I say it doesn't work.

3. I'm not going back on anything. You just can't understand what I tell you.

1. But he did, so how is it invalid?

2. I dont think you understand how paralysis genjustu works. There is no releasing genjutsu if the genjustu is already over. The Hachibi didn't release anything in the Bee vs Sasuke fight, your stilll thinking of the Itachi fight.

3. Your still going back...