Why do people keep saying that Sasuke is no match for current Naruto?

[Pravin5]

Dumb Sasugay fans always makes me wonder why god didnt gave brain to 20% of the humans ?

 

[Naruto king of Shinobi]

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard seriously? When Naruto ran into Sasuke at Oro's hideout he would have shit stomped on Naruto and "Team 7". In multiple episodes it showed him training. Obviously he must have worked hard to become faster and to use his jutsu's differently. You silly Naruto fan boy.

I was obviously making a joke with that statement(well not all of it). But yea sasuke would have defeated them only because Naruto wasn't trying to fight back. Him and sakura were shocked and hesitant to even move at the sight of sasuke because its been so long since they've seen him at that point. Same goes for yamato, their goal there was to capture him(preferably without harming him, his goal there was to kill them, doesnt make him stronger). But if it was Naruto/sakura/yamato with killer intent vs sasuke with killer intent you still can't say sasuke would have won. Because he wouldnt have. Naruto went 4-tails against orochimaru shortly before that meeting. 4 tails Naruto >>> sasuke before he has MS

 

[Bman95]

Where are some of you people getting these ridiculous accusations? We all know that Sasuke outclasses Naruto In many areas, and not to mention his jutsu arsenal is way larger than Naruto's. Lets look at a few comparisons.

1.Susanoo:Rasenshuriken cannot break right through Susanoo. Sasuke defended against a direct body slam from the Raikage at close range with only Susanoo rib cage. If he can do this with just Susanoo rib cage, why wouldn't he be able to defend against rasenshuriken with full Susanoo?


2.Amaterasu: Are we forgetting about this jutsu or what? Say what you want, Naruto is going to have a very hard time dealing with this jutsu. This jutsu can also deal with Naruto's shadow clone spamming. Look at the picture below, that should back up this accusation

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This would EASILY wipe out Naruto's shadow clones, and have we forgotten about Sasuke's fire style jutsu's? Either one can deal with those clones. So please shut up with that BS statement. Do you know how difficult it's going to be for Naruto to defend against Susanoo and Amaterasu? Naruto hasn't even fought against Susanoo

The only thing that Sasuke may need a power up to handle is Naruto's Bijuu Mode, which arguably makes Naruto much more powerful than Sauske. However, this is only for about 5 mins or so.

The point is that Current Sasuke can handle Base, Sage, and Kyuubi Naruto, so please gtfo with accusations such as "Naruto would run straight through Sasuke", etc. U_U

Dude naruto moves to fast for Amateratsu and he doesnt need to predict when sauske will use it cause you can fell pressure. As for raikages punch being stronger than rasen shuriken makes no sence because those are two different attacks completely. Tailed beast ball wipes the floor with and fire style sasuke will use. And naruto fought madara's susanoo. Lastly genjutsu will not work on naruto.

 

[spatha]

Because....? Making a statement as such with no logic or evidence? :sy:

for one, a massive arsenal of jutsu is pointless...kakashi is doted as the copy ninja who master over 1000 jutsu, but do you think 99% of those would help against a strong enemy say...tobi or madara? i doubt it. That said, you act like naruto is the idiot from the first series, running hundreds of clones at his enemy with no strategy but overwhelming him, naruto has grown by leaps and bounds in battle strategy, and given that naruto is faster than sasuke (i hold no respect with anything you say if you cant at least admit that) that also means by extension, his clones are too. You think a big, slow moving puff of fire can wipe out all of narutos clones when, in bijuu mode, they move as fast as him, and he was recently proclaimed to move as fast or possibly faster than ftg at reasonable distances? Next, you argue since A couldnt crack susoono then neither can rasenshuriken? There is no way to compare the possibilities, because while A had a chakra armor on(lightning armor) it was explained several times to do little more than augment his speed and strength. Im willing to bet that a jutsu which is by its basic design, able to disrupt chakra and more deadly still, sever pathways then its a decent assumption that while it might not slice through like a knife through butter, it would most assuredly deal some damage not to mention end the fight if it breached through to sasuke. Ameterasu, i will admit could be a big problem but only if naruto doesnt handle the fight quickly like he fairly easily could, it his been shown and explained that ameterasu can be shed off by means of emitting a chakra cloak, so bijuu mode naruto should be only slightly affected if at all before it falls right off the cloak he is currently enshrouded in while in that mode. But honestly, assuming naruto can steer clear of ameterasu, i can see him still beating sasuke in sage mode with mid to high diff. mainly due to the obvious that they would talk and talk and sasuke would underhandedly use the advantage and they would take yet some more...but if it was a true scenario fight, not storyline style with a chance for dialogue, and they had the intent to kill I fully see naruto defeating him with at most mid difficulty.

 

[Naruto king of Shinobi]

:shrug: this is sadly true. the sasuke > naruto points that have been proved in this thread are overlooked.

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gg naruto

That's stupid. For one killer bee killed sasuke like 3 times in that fight....killer bee using just his sword skills(no hachibi chakra) would have killed sasuke after he impaled him with those swords. Sasuke had too much help in that fight. And with all that help he still didn't successfully capture bee. Fail. And basically you are just showing pics of Sasukes Jutsu's that COULD kill Naruto, but it would be highly unlikely. Since BM Naruto could dodge the black flames, and kirin. And killer bee already proved that gengutsu has no effect on a jinchuriki who has complete control of their bijuu(which Naruto has now). I could post tons and tons and TONS of manga pages/pictures of narutos techniques that would absolutely destroy sasuke. And I'm sick of sasuke fans acting like Sasukes susanoo is so amazing, or that's its going to be as amazing as madaras or some bull crap. You guys fail to realize that sustaining susanoo not only uses up lots of chakra but also puts extreme pain on the user(as if every cell is burning). Edo madara has unlimited chakra, the rinnegan and hashi's DNA, and can't feel pain....so yea obviously his susanoo will be ridiculous. Its already been shown that you can take an uchiha out of their susanoo, negating the technique(shown when gaara and Naruto tag teamed madara). I don't think it would be hard for one of BM narutos chakra arms to just go underground, grab sasuke by the feet, rip him out of susanoo, and tear him to shreds. Shouldn't be hard considering how much faster Naruto is now, and that he's had chakra arms moving underground before(especially since users of susanoo can't really move fast at all, most of the time they are stationary). Sooo in conclusion, gg sasuke.

 

[Nikashu]

That's stupid. For one killer bee killed sasuke like 3 times in that fight....killer bee using just his sword skills(no hachibi chakra) would have killed sasuke after he impaled him with those swords. Sasuke had too much help in that fight. And with all that help he still didn't successfully capture bee. Fail. And basically you are just showing pics of Sasukes Jutsu's that COULD kill Naruto, but it would be highly unlikely. Since BM Naruto could dodge the black flames, and kirin. And killer bee already proved that gengutsu has no effect on a jinchuriki who has complete control of their bijuu(which Naruto has now). I could post tons and tons and TONS of manga pages/pictures of narutos techniques that would absolutely destroy sasuke. And I'm sick of sasuke fans acting like Sasukes susanoo is so amazing, or that's its going to be as amazing as madaras or some bull crap. You guys fail to realize that sustaining susanoo not only uses up lots of chakra but also puts extreme pain on the user(as if every cell is burning). Edo madara has unlimited chakra, the rinnegan and hashi's DNA, and can't feel pain....so yea obviously his susanoo will be ridiculous. Its already been shown that you can take an uchiha out of their susanoo, negating the technique(shown when gaara and Naruto tag teamed madara). I don't think it would be hard for one of BM narutos chakra arms to just go underground, grab sasuke by the feet, rip him out of susanoo, and tear him to shreds. Shouldn't be hard considering how much faster Naruto is now, and that he's had chakra arms moving underground before(especially since users of susanoo can't really move fast at all, most of the time they are stationary). Sooo in conclusion, gg sasuke.

This ^^^

 

[Pravin5]

Sasugay fans are Moron i've argued with them before and they lost but they still never admit that Naruto > Sasuke.
So thats why i dont argue with those moron's anymore. They deserve to be hated.

 

[Nikashu]

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gg sasuke genjutsu> jinchuk

naruto spamms shadow clones and is slower, than sasuke instant moves.

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Oh, Sasuke is faster than the speed of light? Please, explain to me when that happened

 

[Amaterasuice]

Ummm Naruto trained for three years. Sasuke on the other hand, was given enhancements and such by that snake-like boyfriend of his. Seriously, its orochimaru, you don't think he was actually doing some kind of weird shit to sasuke? They even said orochimaru gave sasuke resistance to poisons..doesn't sound like hard work and training. I'm sure sasuke trained a little bit, when he wasn't too busy making love to orochimaru. Sasuke allowed orochimaru to enter him....sounds gay doesn't it? It all makes sense now as to why Naruto always had an interest in girls at a young age, and sasuke never wanted anything to do with them. I don't care how busy you are, or how 'revenge' driven a person says he is, a straight man would have to give in a chicks advances at some point(and sasuke had plenty of opportunities with sakura and Karin) buuuut nooooo sasuke fancies getting snakes shoved up his butt instead. Straight Naruto FTW!

First bold: Sakura said she suspected he did, because his growth was so powerful. Naruto's growth in a year was faster, so it's quite possible he just trained a lot.

Second bold: Yeah, this is Orochimaru we're talking about. It's likely he made Sasuke take the poisons, drink it, and then an hour later Kabuto heals him. That would make it resistant.

Third bold: Sasuke is a-sexual. It means not into either gender. Also, Sasuke wasn't the one going to bed at night thinking, "I hope Naruto is thinking about me." No, it was Naruto thinking, "I wonder if Sasuke thinks about me."

LOL

Dude you are right though, what has sasuke shown from his training with oro, he advanced chidori, creating some variants, his next power ups were hand outs.

Naruto learnt his fathers tech, created variants, now he has mastered sage mode, and has gained harmony with karuma, mastering some ridiculously powerful bijuu bomb...[/QU

Naruto was basically handed Kurama. He didn't train to get that either. Stop crying about hand outs.

Naruto as of now would own Sasuke, but that comment can be reused against you.

Yea I know. Narutos father was hailed as a once in a decade genius, who was also one of the most effective ninjas/hokages ever. He created the rasengan by studying the TBB, but what's more impressive is Naruto mastered the rasengan much faster than his father, and then perfected it by advancing it into a whole nother jutsu. Naruto also mastered sage mode and perfected it in a shorter time than jiraya. Naruto already surpassed two of the greatest ninja/sensei's and at such a younger age. On top of that Narutos control of the kyuubi is more impressive than that of tobis and madaras, for the simple fact that he is the only person since the SO6p to tame the kyuubi without using force. Which is also an extraordinary feat.

Yeah, Naruto learned it faster. He didn't create it though. If someone was teaching Minato the rasengan, I'm pretty sure it would take much less time to learn it.

He did use force. He and his mommy beat up a fox and said, "LISTEN OR GET BEATEN AGAN! ......dang animal abuse.

47 pages, and still it hasn't been accepted that the MAIN PROTAGANIST is going to win in the end. really. do you really think Kishi would have Sasuke win this one? and if he did do that, it would just lead to a later series where at some point, Naruto would win.

This is kishimoto. It's likely Sasuke will live and Naruto will die, and Sasuke will have a change of heart because of it.

Or they may kill each other.

Or Sasuke will die.

Man, they may not even fight.

Kishi will troll someone. I bet on it.

I was obviously making a joke with that statement(well not all of it). But yea sasuke would have defeated then only because Naruto wasn't trying to fight back. Him and sakura were shocked and hesitant to even move at the sight of sasuke because its been so long since they've seen him at that point. But if it was Naruto with killer intent vs sasuke with killer intent you still can't say sasuke would have won. Naruto went 4-tails against orochimaru shortly before that meeting. 4 tails Naruto >>> sasuke before he has MS

To be honest, at that time Sasuke might've done the Kurama surpress thing. But now he can't, due to Naruto mastering it. Plus, Sasuke cs2 could go toe to toe with him for awhile, but than die. He could just kill base-3 tail naruto before he goes four tails anyway. I mean, here is the listings at this time (the one below is saying how far behind it is the one above, example: base mode Sasuke>>>Base mode Naruto)

1. Four tails Naruto
2. cs2 Sasuke (not a lot, but not a little)
3. 3 tails Naruto (pretty even, but Sasuke could strategize more)
4. 2 tails Naruto (by quite a bit)
5. partial curse mark Sasuke (by a little)
6. one tail Naruto (not a lot, but not a little bit weaker either)
7. cs1 Sasuke (by a normal amount)
8. 3 tamoe Sasuke (by an average amount)
9. initial form Naruto (by little)
10. Base Sasuke (by a little)
11. Base naruto (by so much it isn't funny)

So Sasuke could just kill Naruto before he goes initial transformation.

 

[Mishima]

I'm a fan of Sasuke, and even I can admit that Sasuke can't beat Current Naruto

 

[Naruto king of Shinobi]

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gg sasuke genjutsu> jinchuk

naruto spamms shadow clones and is slower, than sasuke instant moves.

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Are you retarded? Did you forget that the hachibi snaps bee out of that genjutsu RIGHT after sasuke trapped him in it, followed by bee destroying Sasukes rib cage? Again, a jinchuriki with complete control over bijuu >>> genjustu

 

[NOemotions]

Where are some of you people getting these ridiculous accusations? We all know that Sasuke outclasses Naruto In many areas, and not to mention his jutsu arsenal is way larger than Naruto's. Lets look at a few comparisons.

1.Susanoo:Rasenshuriken cannot break right through Susanoo. Sasuke defended against a direct body slam from the Raikage at close range with only Susanoo rib cage. If he can do this with just Susanoo rib cage, why wouldn't he be able to defend against rasenshuriken with full Susanoo?


2.Amaterasu: Are we forgetting about this jutsu or what? Say what you want, Naruto is going to have a very hard time dealing with this jutsu. This jutsu can also deal with Naruto's shadow clone spamming. Look at the picture below, that should back up this accusation

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This would EASILY wipe out Naruto's shadow clones, and have we forgotten about Sasuke's fire style jutsu's? Either one can deal with those clones. So please shut up with that BS statement. Do you know how difficult it's going to be for Naruto to defend against Susanoo and Amaterasu? Naruto hasn't even fought against Susanoo

The only thing that Sasuke may need a power up to handle is Naruto's Bijuu Mode, which arguably makes Naruto much more powerful than Sauske. However, this is only for about 5 mins or so.

The point is that Current Sasuke can handle Base, Sage, and Kyuubi Naruto, so please gtfo with accusations such as "Naruto would run straight through Sasuke", etc. U_U

first of all, raikage's blow almost killed rat sausage, and he could not even hit naruto. naruto is in whole different league than sausage.

 

[Naruto king of Shinobi]

First bold: Sakura said she suspected he did, because his growth was so powerful. Naruto's growth in a year was faster, so it's quite possible he just trained a lot.

Second bold: Yeah, this is Orochimaru we're talking about. It's likely he made Sasuke take the poisons, drink it, and then an hour later Kabuto heals him. That would make it resistant.

Third bold: Sasuke is a-sexual. It means not into either gender. Also, Sasuke wasn't the one going to bed at night thinking, "I hope Naruto is thinking about me." No, it was Naruto thinking, "I wonder if Sasuke thinks about me."

Yeah, Naruto learned it faster. He didn't create it though. If someone was teaching Minato the rasengan, I'm pretty sure it would take much less time to learn it.

He did use force. He and his mommy beat up a fox and said, "LISTEN OR GET BEATEN AGAN! ......dang animal abuse.



This is kishimoto. It's likely Sasuke will live and Naruto will die, and Sasuke will have a change of heart because of it.

Or they may kill each other.

Or Sasuke will die.

Man, they may not even fight.

Kishi will troll someone. I bet on it.



To be honest, at that time Sasuke might've done the Kurama surpress thing. But now he can't, due to Naruto mastering it. Plus, Sasuke cs2 could go toe to toe with him for awhile, but than die. He could just kill base-3 tail naruto before he goes four tails anyway. I mean, here is the listings at this time (the one below is saying how far behind it is the one above, example: base mode Sasuke>>>Base mode Naruto)

1. Four tails Naruto
2. cs2 Sasuke (not a lot, but not a little)
3. 3 tails Naruto (pretty even, but Sasuke could strategize more)
4. 2 tails Naruto (by quite a bit)
5. partial curse mark Sasuke (by a little)
6. one tail Naruto (not a lot, but not a little bit weaker either)
7. cs1 Sasuke (by a normal amount)
8. 3 tamoe Sasuke (by an average amount)
9. initial form Naruto (by little)
10. Base Sasuke (by a little)
11. Base naruto (by so much it isn't funny)

So Sasuke could just kill Naruto before he goes initial transformation.

I'm not even gonna waste my time on all of this fail. You know the name of the show, and I'm assuming you've seen the poll/votes for this debate. To continue to argue against that would just prove that sasuke fan boys are truly stubborn and stupid. If you don't like it, make your own manga called "Sasuke"...I'm sure it would be revolutionary >_> good day sir

 

[MidKnight]

Are you people STILL denying the fact that Amaterasu,Susanoo,and Sasuke s superior intellect could jam all of Naruto's main approaches? Naruto wouldn't even be able to get his rhythm flowing. Please answer this question, what is Naruto s main approach? Shadow clone jutsu. And with CONSTANT pressure from Amaterasu and Susanoo Naruto isn't going to be able to set Sasuke up like he has done his other opponents, get real with the FACTS people!

You people really think Sasuke is just going to sit there and let him go into Kyuubi/Bijuu mode w/o any retaliation? And if Amaterasu does connect and if Naruto does find a way to counter it, this is going to leave him VULNERABLE.

What happened to Negato? He let his guard down for a few seconds and the BOOM, Itachi caught him with Susanoo and sealed him. We all know that Susanoo arrow is WAY faster than a melee attack from Itachi s Susanoo.

And PLEASE explain how Naruto will counter Enton covered Final Susanoo. U_U NOBODY has answered this question.

 

[SO6PNARUTO]

All Hail Queen Sasugay

 

[Gatsuuga]

Do all the Sausage fan forget that Naruto can sense negative emotion now? Therefore Naruto knows exactly when Sauce-gay will launch an attack every time he tries to do one. It's like his own sharingan-attack prediction system.

Also amaterasu is useless if sasuke can't actually see where naruto is. This was demonstrated by A, and we all know that naruto is fast then A (well most of use).

Genjutsu is useless against a perfect jinchuriki so thats out. Which basically just leaves sasuke with susano'o as a defensive wall. Naruto therefore has the following options
1. Make clones and throw a few rasenshurikens at sasuke.
2. Make clones and use chakra arms to pull sasuke out of susano'o, followed by what ever he wants
3. make clones, use chakra arms to restrict susano'os movement then TBB/ rasenshuriken his arse
4. Make 20 more KM clones sit back drink tea

Now before you put your sharingan contacts on to write "what about amaterasu covered susano'o" think about it. Karin had amaterasu on her for like a minute yet it only just burnt through her cloths. A had it on him for a while yet his hand showed no signs of damage. It may be hot, but it burns very slow, just think how many people this technique has actually killed. It didn't even get through the samurai's armor and they are fodder.

On a side note naruto can simply shed it off by turning off KM. If you don't believe me think about the Killer Bee fight. The tentacle/ hachibi form was completely alight yet Bee just walked out unscaved when he turned Hachibi mode off. Same basic principle.

Are you people STILL denying the fact that Amaterasu,Susanoo,and Sasuke s superior intellect could jam all of Naruto's main approaches? Naruto wouldn't even be able to get his rhythm flowing. Please answer this question, what is Naruto s main approach? Shadow clone jutsu. And with CONSTANT pressure from Amaterasu and Susanoo Naruto isn't going to be able to set Sasuke up like he has done his other opponents, get real with the FACTS people!

You people really think Sasuke is just going to sit there and let him go into Kyuubi/Bijuu mode w/o any retaliation? And if Amaterasu does connect and if Naruto does find a way to counter it, this is going to leave him VULNERABLE.

What happened to Negato? He let his guard down for a few seconds and the BOOM, Itachi caught him with Susanoo and sealed him. We all know that Susanoo arrow is WAY faster than a melee attack from Itachi s Susanoo.

And PLEASE explain how Naruto will counter Enton covered Final Susanoo. U_U NOBODY has answered this question.

Are you still not responding to my post on like pg 18 about TBB and why it is relevant in this discussion? Okay for starters when was the last time you saw Sasuke use his intellect in battle. These days he just gets his period and screams "i'm full of hate" whilst spamming. Your also assuming Naruto isn't smart -- he was the only one in the Narutoverse to figure out the 3rd raikages weakness. Not even people that knew the raikage figured it out.

Again amaterasu is a non factor here because sasuke can't keep up with his speed and therefore can't target naruto. The only chance for sasuke is to light his susanoo on fire. In regards to susanoo read the section just above (although I doubt you will understand it). Also the same could be said about sasuke, do you think naruto will just let him put susano'o up?

Finally your comment about nagato is childish. Clearly nagato was not in control at all during that time, Kabuto was.

 

[Ressurected Crow]

Like few people, I've realized arguing with Sasuke fans is annoying, and there is no end to it. Is it that bad to let them have their opinion? It doesn't affect anyone else's daily lives.

 

[droopysage]

im a sasuke fan and right now i actually believe he would be raped but i believe kishi will give him rinnengan

 

[Naruto king of Shinobi]

Are you people STILL denying the fact that Amaterasu,Susanoo,and Sasuke s superior intellect could jam all of Naruto's main approaches? Naruto wouldn't even be able to get his rhythm flowing. Please answer this question, what is Naruto s main approach? Shadow clone jutsu. And with CONSTANT pressure from Amaterasu and Susanoo Naruto isn't going to be able to set Sasuke up like he has done his other opponents, get real with the FACTS people!

You people really think Sasuke is just going to sit there and let him go into Kyuubi/Bijuu mode w/o any retaliation? And if Amaterasu does connect and if Naruto does find a way to counter it, this is going to leave him VULNERABLE.

What happened to Negato? He let his guard down for a few seconds and the BOOM, Itachi caught him with Susanoo and sealed him. We all know that Susa

noo arrow is WAY faster than a melee attack from Itachi s Susanoo.

And PLEASE explain how Naruto will counter Enton covered Final Susanoo. U_U NOBODY has answered this question.

To counter all this, Naruto in BM or KM can outrun all of Sasukes attacks. Sasuke could not hit him with susanoo, black flames, arrows, nothing. On top of that Naruto can sense negative emotions, he would know where sasuke is at all times. Naruto could just outrun all of those attacks effortlessly, while sasuke continues to drain tons of chakra. Naruto isnt as reckless as the Raikage, he wouldnt even get close to sasuke if he had a black flamed coverd susanoo.....BM with a a tailed beast bomb as strong as 5 tailed beast bombs would annihilate a black flame covered susanoo. Get out of here. Like I said, stubborn and stupid. THE SHOW IS CALLED NARUTO

 

[Gatsuuga]

To counter all this, Naruto in BM or KM can outrun all of Sasukes attacks. Sasuke could not hit him with susanoo, black flames, arrows, nothing. On top of that Naruto can sense negative emotions, he would know where sasuke is at all times. Naruto could just outrun all of those attacks effortlessly, while sasuke continues to drain tons of chakra. Naruto isnt as reckless as the Raikage, he wouldnt even get close to sasuke if he had a black flamed coverd susanoo.....BM with a a tailed beast bomb as strong as 5 tailed beast bombs would annihilate a black flame covered susanoo. Get out of here. Like I said, stubborn and stupid. THE SHOW IS CALLED NARUTO

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Also OP I am starting to think that this is the best troll ever since no-one could or should be this dense.