Why do people keep saying that Sasuke is no match for current Naruto?

[cabby007]

If it wasnt for grandma and grandpa toad,Naruto would be dead if it werent for hinata naruto would of been dead!!!IF it werent for itachi, Nagato would of destroyed naruto,and if it werent for killer bee THE talied beasts would of defeated him!!

remind me how the toads saved him? they TRAINED him, just like how orochimaru trained sasuke. Hinata didnt save naruto, naruto got enraged and turned into the 6th tail of the fox, which the fox is PART of naruto.

 

[DivineIllusion]

Is this still going on...?

I can just repeat myself: Right NOW, sasukes shown powers are waaaay lower than narutos. Soon, they will be on an equal level, but right now:
Naruto>Sasuke.




And the "Sasuke is more intelligent argument..."
Maybe he was cleverer in the past, but reread the manga from the point were he got Ms... Since that time he behaves more and more spammerlike, while naruto moves right in the other direction (from Kage bunshinspam to one on one combat /or at least the use of just a few kage bunshins)

And even if hes dumb in reallife, narutos fighting intellect is grown with every powerup he got...




"Sasuke has more ninjutsu"

Hmmh. Maybe true, but none of them except his MS/EMS techniques will affect naruto in Bijumode...

(And to that amaterasu/susannocombined defence
AMATERASU DOES NOT INCREASE THE DEFENCEPOWER OF SUSANOO! IT just shields it because the agressor would burn himself if he has contact with those flames. That doesnt help a shit vs longrangeattacks and is maybe even a risk for the user, cause if susanoo gets pierced by anything, the incoming attack would maybe transport those flames with it so sasuke could actually burn himself (IF susanoo gets havily pierced while the flameshield is activated...)


and, the susanoovaritions has shown so far... I dont think they can tank TBBs...


And there was the argument somewhere, that TBB never killed anyone...
Amaterasu didnt kill anybody too ( I dont count zetsus)...
(itachi didnt want to kill sasuke/sasuke escaped- killerbee escaped via bodyexchange- the raikage dodged, or cut his hand od- not even the samurai died!



... And the poll says so too: Naruto > Sasuke right now.
or at least: Narutofans> Sasukefans...

 

[Uchiha Jin]

Well i just thought of something that i should have realized earlier being a law student and all, no one can really win this debate if it keeps going this way. If neither side is willing to accept the hard facts that the other is putting out then their can be NO WINNER. It's just going to continue to be a battle of opinions, key word opinions and you can't argue with someone on an opinion because it's just how they feel about a subject. So let's just... close this lol

 

[TobisPawn]

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[Arsenicpop]

I guess Saskue fanboys are just mad because the entire hidden leaf hates him, but they love Naruto. Kinda funny right? Used to be the exact opposite at the start. Sasuke is just an emo bitch that can't get a clue that his bro loves the hidden leaf and did what he did to protect it, Sasuke is just a spoiled brat that always wants his way. Sasuke was born with skill, and has in no way even came close to training as hard as Naruto has. Sure Naruto started to use shadow clones to help him train..But whos the smart one now? Just give it a rest, im tired of all these "so-and-so is stronger..yada yada threads". If you really want to know who is stronger ask Kishi it is his story not yours, if you want your emo prince to be the best, go write some damn fan fics. And I would like to see the 9tails put into Sasuke RIGHT AT BIRTH. He couldnt handle it just because of the fact that Naruto and all Uzis gained the "Body" of the sot6p and not the Uchis, But that was most likely to keep things at balance, the Uchis would have a hard time housing the power of a Tails Beast.

 

[Kountchocula]

If you ever watched DBZ then you know TBB > anything. It's the Spirit bomb so stop kidding yourselves

 

[The Work]

Due to the manga...Sasuke doesn't have NOTHING that puts him on par with Naruto....

I mean c,mon...flinging Amateratsu discs....I'm pretty sure Naruto can dodge that all

 

[Roofy128]

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people will believe what they want, anyway i came into this thread thinking current naruto > current sasuke and nothing in this thread has changed that but sasuke will be equal if they fight again

 

[Champ]

I like Sasuke and until I see some new powers from EMS he can't beat current Naruto

 

[Ninpou]

I guess Saskue fanboys are just mad because the entire hidden leaf hates him, but they love Naruto. Kinda funny right? Used to be the exact opposite at the start. Sasuke is just an emo bitch that can't get a clue that his bro loves the hidden leaf and did what he did to protect it, Sasuke is just a spoiled brat that always wants his way. Sasuke was born with skill, and has in no way even came close to training as hard as Naruto has. Sure Naruto started to use shadow clones to help him train..But whos the smart one now? Just give it a rest, im tired of all these "so-and-so is stronger..yada yada threads". If you really want to know who is stronger ask Kishi it is his story not yours, if you want your emo prince to be the best, go write some damn fan fics. And I would like to see the 9tails put into Sasuke RIGHT AT BIRTH. He couldnt handle it just because of the fact that Naruto and all Uzis gained the "Body" of the sot6p and not the Uchis, But that was most likely to keep things at balance, the Uchis would have a hard time housing the power of a Tails Beast.

Daymn, lost a fwe barni celsl readign taht shi.

 

[sasukeultimateninja]

lets start from the basics and know who is having the advantage.
1. sasuke has two elements fire and lightning naruto has only wind element and nothing else yet. fire is stronger than lightning and always sasuke's chidori has always countered naruto's rasengan so it is hard to say who is stronger
2.naruto has got rasenshurikein and can attack only once if he is not in sage mode. Sasuke has got kirin which is faster than lightining itselfs and can destroy anything like the rasen shrurikein
3.naruto has got sage mode sasuke has got mangekyo sharingan and now has mastered a bit of the tsuyokomi plus the amaterasu. naruto can throw rasen shuriken but only two of them then sage mode energy is gone.which can allow sasuke to attack.
4. naruto has the chakra of the kyuubi and sasuke has got the eternal mangekyo. even thougnh naruto can be fast with it he still can learn to manage the chakra and he always ends up finishing it quickly than usual since he uses heavy attack.sasuke on he other hand has now master the tsuyokomi but now and can use the amaterasu in a skill manner. plus he knows how to uses chakra far effectively and better than naruto

5. finally naruto has kurama the nine tails that is good in create powerful bijuu bomb apart from that we do not see any other attack kurama can do. Sasuke has the full version of te susano'o with a yata shield, amaterasu sword and amaterasu fireball. if memory serves me right kurama like any bijuu in their full form is not fast andthey are not immune to the amaterasu. hence is the kyuubi engages the susano'o of sasuke in its full form it will die a painful suicidial death. i hate roasted fox for lunch.

 

[Naruto king of Shinobi]

your right but Sasuke always have been stronger then NAruto!!

That is simply untrue my friend. They basically have been playing a game of catch-up with one another throughout the entire show.Naruto passes sasuke, sasuke passes Naruto, etc. But one thing is true, almost all of narutos power came from sheer training. Even his bijuu powers(he now has complete control of what has been known to be the most powerful and sinister of all bijuu). Sasuke LITERALLY got his mangekyou, and eternal mangekyou given to him(in other words, all his current power).

 

[Roofy128]

Daymn, lost a fwe barni celsl readign taht shi.

take ur time while typing or u just type like sh*t xd

 

[Ninpou]

That is simply untrue my friend. They basically have been playing a game of catch-up with one another throughout the entire show.Naruto passes sasuke, sasuke passes Naruto, etc. But one thing is true, almost all of narutos power came from sheer training. Even his bijuu powers(he now has complete control of what has been known to be the most powerful and sinister of all bijuu). Sasuke LITERALLY got his mangekyou, and eternal mangekyou given to him(in other words, all his current power).

They both trained, get over it. While Sasuke spent 3 years training with Oro, Naruto was having his homo " where are you now Sasuke" moments and when they finaly met at the hide out Sasuke shit on team 7 and would have killed them all if Oro hand stopped him from using Kirin.

 

[sasukeultimateninja]

your right but Sasuke always have been stronger then NAruto!!

seriously people believe naruto win because the show is named after him:sy: give me a break. naruto cannot become any damn ten tails. besides he will need a rinnengan like the sage of six paths to control it and the only people who have it now are madara and sasuke (who is yet to get it soon). you actually believe sasuke will just give his rinnengan to naruto to control the ten tails. for those saying that. stop being childish and face facts. it ain't gonna happen

 

[Snake5177]

Omg, im tired of these guys saying amaterasu can hit kyuubi mode naruto... Let me provide you with FACTS. He is incredibly fast (almost on raikages level), and if he happened to get hit with it, he can just make a chakra arm to push it off... Jeez, fanboys just think, "oh hes my favorite character, so hes the strongest", then they provide INVALID proof, and when they get flamed about facts, they try to come up with stuff. Please go back and read the whole shippuden series, then come back.. kthxbai

 

[sasukeultimateninja]

for those who say that sasuke has trained less than naruto because he was alseep with his brothers eyes i will like to ask a question what makes you think that sasuke didn't do training with madara while he had the magekyo sharingan. even before going to fight killer bee.

 

[sasukeultimateninja]

Omg, im tired of these guys saying amaterasu can hit kyuubi mode naruto... Let me provide you with FACTS. He's is incredibly fast (almost on raikages level), and if he happened to get hit with it, he can just make a chakra arm to push it off... Jeez, fanboys just think, "oh hes my favorite character, so hes the strongest", then they provide INVALID proof, and when they get flamed about facts, they try to come up with stuff. Please go back and read the whole shippuden series, then come back.. kthxbai

We are talking about if naruto is fighting with kurama on board. if kurama joins the fight it will be loss becasue he is not fast enough to dodge it. if it is a full bijuu mode naruto goes into. it will be a loss.sasuke will just pierce the kyuubi with the amaterasu sword and it is game over for that poor fox. as for his normal kyuubi mode. a little tsukoyomi from sasuke and it will be lights out for naruto. Besides if there is anything i know about sasuke. he knows that naruto has the ability to attack swiftly and create a diversion with his clones so there is no way he will let his guard down.

 

[Snake5177]

What?? Nah im talking about from earlier posts... But by the way, Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi...

 

[Naruto king of Shinobi]

lets start from the basics and know who is having the advantage.
1. sasuke has two elements fire and lightning naruto has only wind element and nothing else yet. fire is stronger than lightning and always sasuke's chidori has always countered naruto's rasengan so it is hard to say who is stronger
2.naruto has got rasenshurikein and can attack only once if he is not in sage mode. Sasuke has got kirin which is faster than lightining itselfs and can destroy anything like the rasen shrurikein
3.naruto has got sage mode sasuke has got mangekyo sharingan and now has mastered a bit of the tsuyokomi plus the amaterasu. naruto can throw rasen shuriken but only two of them then sage mode energy is gone.which can allow sasuke to attack.
4. naruto has the chakra of the kyuubi and sasuke has got the eternal mangekyo. even thougnh naruto can be fast with it he still can learn to manage the chakra and he always ends up finishing it quickly than usual since he uses heavy attack.sasuke on he other hand has now master the tsuyokomi but now and can use the amaterasu in a skill manner. plus he knows how to uses chakra far effectively and better than narutoj

5. finally naruto has kurama the nine tails that is good in create powerful bijuu bomb apart from that we do not see any other attack kurama can do. Sasuke has the full version of te susano'o with a yata shield, amaterasu sword and amaterasu fireball. if memory serves me right kurama like any bijuu in their full form is not fast andthey are not immune to the amaterasu. hence is the kyuubi engages the susano'o of sasuke in its full form it will die a painful suicidial death. i hate roasted fox for lunch.

A lot of the 'facts' you stated were wrong. And your side of the argument just fails all over the place. For example, Naruto has shown on several occasions to be capable of using rasenshuriken more than once WITHOUT sage mode. He used it 2-3 times in his first time using it in actual combat against kakuzu....and sasuke is in no way a master of "tsuyokomi". Itachi is the true master of that technique. Whats that about bijuu not being fast in their full form? From what I remember Naruto was so fast in bijuu mode that his speed alone deflected 5 bijuu bombs, and his speed also shocked guy(who is known for being a speed expert) and made kakashi mistake him for the 4th hokage. So yea, sasuke couldn't keep up if his life depended on it, literally. And Sasukes susanoo doesn't have the "yata shield" (which is actually called 'yata mirror'). Its just a susanoo shield, NOT one of the three-sacred treasures(which itachi possessed). Just stop