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Firstly, Edo tensei is a summoning and a jutsu, just like any other ability

But Sasuke can amaterasu skin any amount of time he wants, But one white rage jutsu is enough to blind him and take amaterasu away, as well as drop his susanno..

I'm slowly realizing that you are some sort of Uchiha fanboy who underrates the two final villains
No, tell me how kabuto is able to blind sasuke while he is being burned by amaturasu, especially if its on a huge scale like hachibi. I'm sure sasuke would do that since he knows he has the shedding ability. You say I'm a fan boy sir huh? Am I? Being logical makes me a fanboy? You honestly believe kabuto can blind sasuke while his burning surrounded by fire that burns chakra itself? Really he can? Fail sir.... just fail.... in fact I am starting to realize you might be lacking a bit of some logic or should I say common sense. You make it seem as though amaturasu is simple to avoid...

Wake up... the only way to avoid amatirasu is by speed. Shedding will get you nowhere...

Especially against someone with ems who can spam it without Mich side effects..

Logic...you need some more...

Common sense tells me sasuke will rage before kabuto and just end it all quick... like zetsu...
 

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No, tell me how kabuto is able to blind sasuke while he is being burned by amaturasu, especially if its on a huge scale like hachibi. I'm sure sasuke would do that since he knows he has the shedding ability. You say I'm a fan boy sir huh? Am I? Being logical makes me a fanboy? You honestly believe kabuto can blind sasuke while his burning surrounded by fire that burns chakra itself? Really he can? Fail sir.... just fail.... in fact I am starting to realize you might be lacking a bit of some logic or should I say common sense. You make it seem as though amaturasu is simple to avoid...

Wake up... the only way to avoid amatirasu is by speed. Shedding will get you nowhere...

Especially against someone with ems who can spam it without Mich side effects..

Logic...you need some more...

Common sense tells me sasuke will rage before kabuto and just end it all quick... like zetsu...
Have you forgotten that Kabuto has sage mode
 

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No, tell me how kabuto is able to blind sasuke while he is being burned by amaturasu, especially if its on a huge scale like hachibi. I'm sure sasuke would do that since he knows he has the shedding ability. You say I'm a fan boy sir huh? Am I? Being logical makes me a fanboy? You honestly believe kabuto can blind sasuke while his burning surrounded by fire that burns chakra itself? Really he can? Fail sir.... just fail.... in fact I am starting to realize you might be lacking a bit of some logic or should I say common sense. You make it seem as though amaturasu is simple to avoid...

Wake up... the only way to avoid amatirasu is by speed. Shedding will get you nowhere...

Especially against someone with ems who can spam it without Mich side effects..

Logic...you need some more...

Common sense tells me sasuke will rage before kabuto and just end it all quick... like zetsu...
What in the world are you talking about? Amaterasu isn't on any scale as Hachibi.... Amaterasu stars small and spreads.. just as it spread on hachibi.. it gets bigger....

Amaterasu already takes a few seconds to cast, as well as eye bleeding etc...... Kabuto can easily cast white rage in that time.. EASILY.. Just like he started off the fight last time...

Amaterasu WILL NOT do kabuto anything.. you need to understand that...

Not only does he have his skin shedding, but also uzumaki and snake healing regenerative properties.. It's ridiculous to even think amaterasu would defeat him..


You can't counter Kabuto with his summonings

You can't counter Kabuto without them..


WHY are you comparing kabuto to zetsu??? get REAL, please. I'm not even going to waste my time on that part
 

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No, tell me how kabuto is able to blind sasuke while he is being burned by amaturasu, especially if its on a huge scale like hachibi. I'm sure sasuke would do that since he knows he has the shedding ability. You say I'm a fan boy sir huh? Am I? Being logical makes me a fanboy? You honestly believe kabuto can blind sasuke while his burning surrounded by fire that burns chakra itself? Really he can? Fail sir.... just fail.... in fact I am starting to realize you might be lacking a bit of some logic or should I say common sense. You make it seem as though amaturasu is simple to avoid...

Wake up... the only way to avoid amatirasu is by speed. Shedding will get you nowhere...

Especially against someone with ems who can spam it without Mich side effects..

Logic...you need some more...

Common sense tells me sasuke will rage before kabuto and just end it all quick... like zetsu...
 

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What in the world are you talking about? Amaterasu isn't on any scale as Hachibi.... Amaterasu stars small and spreads.. just as it spread on hachibi.. it gets bigger....

Amaterasu already takes a few seconds to cast, as well as eye bleeding etc...... Kabuto can easily cast white rage in that time.. EASILY.. Just like he started off the fight last time...

Amaterasu WILL NOT do kabuto anything.. you need to understand that...

Not only does he have his skin shedding, but also uzumaki and snake healing regenerative properties.. It's ridiculous to even think amaterasu would defeat him..


You can't counter Kabuto with his summonings

You can't counter Kabuto without them..


WHY are you comparing kabuto to zetsu??? get REAL, please. I'm not even going to waste my time on that part
Dude please please please understand this.... I'm positive that v3 susanoo can protect sasuke from kabitos blinding technique.... ohh wait u said something about amaturasu taking a while before its cast? So tell me how dis sasuke protect Itachi with an amaturasu ring in an Instant? Did you forget that he has blaze release and is able to freely manipulate the flames.... now without any side effect since he has ems?
 

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Dude please please please understand this.... I'm positive that v3 susanoo can protect sasuke from kabitos blinding technique.... ohh wait u said something about amaturasu taking a while before its cast? So tell me how dis sasuke protect Itachi with an amaturasu ring in an Instant? Did you forget that he has blaze release and is able to freely manipulate the flames.... now without any side effect since he has ems?

Jesus, How will susanno protect him from an attack that's not attacking his phyiscal body in any sense..

You are making 0 sense.. It's like saying susanno will protect him from genjutsu...

White rage jutsu burts in the air and causes blinding light, as well as sounds and vibrations in the air... Because of those his body will become paralyzed and just like before he will be unable to hold up susanno....
Then all kabuto has to do is follow up with Muki tensei to end the fight..


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This is when Kabuto uses muki tensei, look at his distance,
Now look at the scan of where he is when Sasuke finally gets off his amaterasu
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He covered a great amount of distance for a fast jutsu such as amaterasu, And in that time he could have MORE than used the white rage jutsu which requires one handseal..

I am fully aware of blaze release and the benefits of ems.. None of the listed will help him, not when Kabuto has
Tyuya's jutsu to paralyze him

Or white rage to drop his susanno and blind him


Owarji you sure are a excellent debater lol your sig says it all
:) thx, and it's my favorite quote from L.
 
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Jesus, How will susanno protect him from an attack that's not attacking his phyiscal body in any sense..

You are making 0 sense.. It's like saying susanno will protect him from genjutsu...

White rage jutsu burts in the air and causes blinding light, as well as sounds and vibrations in the air... Because of those his body will become paralyzed and just like before he will be unable to hold up susanno....
Then all kabuto has to do is follow up with Muki tensei to end the fight..


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This is when Kabuto uses muki tensei, look at his distance,
Now look at the scan of where he is when Sasuke finally gets off his amaterasu
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He covered a great amount of distance for a fast jutsu such as amaterasu, And in that time he could have MORE than used the white rage jutsu which requires one handseal..

I am fully aware of blaze release and the benefits of ems.. None of the listed will help him, not when Kabuto has
Tyuya's jutsu to paralyze him

Or white rage to drop his susanno and blind him



:) thx, and it's my favorite quote from L.
I guess I'm gonna have to hold up to what I'm saying till the next manga. Well see who's right soon. I personally believe that sasukes attacks are too fast for kabuto counter.. but we will see soon.
 

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I guess I'm gonna have to hold up to what I'm saying till the next manga. Well see who's right soon. I personally believe that sasukes attacks are too fast for kabuto counter.. but we will see soon.
You're an absolute moron. You and The akatsuki guy genuinely make me fear for the human gene pool because you sit there pulling random things from your ass and then thinking you've 'won' this discussion.

Everything you've said has been countered, and remember this; countered logically.

Everything we've said hasn't been countered, and remember this; countered logically


DMS Kabuto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMS Sasuke

Amaterasu will get voided by shedding, enton is no where close to the speed of Amaterasu and is easily dodgable by DMS Kabuto who when not even in his full form he dodged a Susano'o arrow mockingly.

Susano'o doesn't protect from sound so White Rage will still have effect, effectively paralyzing and even better making Sasuke drop his Susano'o for an easy kill.

He can't cast Tsukuyomi / genjutsu because Kabuto sealed his eyes off

Sasuke has 0 chance of beating DMS Kabuto when taken away from the plot.

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You're also a joke if you think what you and Akatsuki Guy has proven anything in the debate of Nagato vs Hashi / Madara, you've had 0 impact, and I mean 0. You've pulled stuff from your butt when it suited you, resorted to calling the logical ones fanboys and more. You are a complete moron and you really should look over your posts from a neutral and realize this.

If Madara summoned Kyuubi (which he can't because it's in Naruto) then Gedo Mazo's dragon soul stealing will do just fine, because Kurama isn't extraordinarily fast so stealing his soul won't be too difficult with Bansho Tenin to help. Stealing souls = / = Absorbing all their chakra, stealing of their souls is extremely fast

Madara's Susano'o is made purely of Chakra, and if Nagato get's near it it will be absorbed. Some idiot thought absorbing was slow, but obviously he never saw Nagato absorb every ounce of Bee's v2 hachibi cloak almost instantly.

As well as this as soon as he starts absorbing it, it we de-stabilize and not have this sword that you all love to mention. Now add Gedo Mazo / Cerberus / Other summons all attacking Susano'o at the same time, and we have a clear winner.

You keep saying he will hit Nagato with the shockwave of the sword, but I don't think you realize that if he swung the sword, Shinra Tensei could easily fling it away / change the direction of the moving energy (shock wave)

What else does Madara have? Not clones. Edo Madara had Mokuton clones, Madara himself could not make anywhere close to this amount of clones, not even close, so these shouldn't even be considered because a relatively strong Shinra Tensei will dispose of these as well.


Hashirama's mokuton get's absorbed (not the wood itself, the chakra inside manipulating it) and leaves dead wood which will crumble and lose its forum. It would also get slapped by Shinra Tensei.

His paralyzing pollen will be sensed by Nagato and wafted away with his mastery of wind element.

Hashirama's healing does no good for his soul being ripped out, and certainly not for an Asura Path missile which would destroy his torso / head / CNS, and thing's like Chibaku Tensei / Large Scale Shinra Tensei

Now to all of those things add Gedo Mazo, Cerberus, and other boss level summons constantly harassing them

What else does Hashirama offer? Oh yeah, some large Kunai, but I won't bother discussing.
 
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Keep fighting people. The question in the topic was about nagato being comparable to hashi and madara. Not about kabuto and sasuke. Nagato is comparable to hashi and madara but not stronger than them. Naruto was stronger than nagato. And u forget.. Hashi had kyubi under his cntrol, same as naruto. He can beat nagato.
 

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You're an absolute moron. You and The akatsuki guy genuinely make me fear for the human gene pool because you sit there pulling random things from your ass and then thinking you've 'won' this discussion.

Everything you've said has been countered, and remember this; countered logically.

Everything we've said hasn't been countered, and remember this; countered logically


DMS Kabuto >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EMS Sasuke

Amaterasu will get voided by shedding, enton is no where close to the speed of Amaterasu and is easily dodgable by DMS Kabuto who when not even in his full form he dodged a Susano'o arrow mockingly.

Susano'o doesn't protect from sound so White Rage will still have effect, effectively paralyzing and even better making Sasuke drop his Susano'o for an easy kill.

He can't cast Tsukuyomi / genjutsu because Kabuto sealed his eyes off

Sasuke has 0 chance of beating DMS Kabuto when taken away from the plot.

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You're also a joke if you think what you and Akatsuki Guy has proven anything in the debate of Nagato vs Hashi / Madara, you've had 0 impact, and I mean 0. You've pulled stuff from your butt when it suited you, resorted to calling the logical ones fanboys and more. You are a complete moron and you really should look over your posts from a neutral and realize this.

If Madara summoned Kyuubi (which he can't because it's in Naruto) then Gedo Mazo's dragon soul stealing will do just fine, because Kurama isn't extraordinarily fast so stealing his soul won't be too difficult with Bansho Tenin to help. Stealing souls = / = Absorbing all their chakra, stealing of their souls is extremely fast

Madara's Susano'o is made purely of Chakra, and if Nagato get's near it it will be absorbed. Some idiot thought absorbing was slow, but obviously he never saw Nagato absorb every ounce of Bee's v2 hachibi cloak almost instantly.

As well as this as soon as he starts absorbing it, it we de-stabilize and not have this sword that you all love to mention. Now add Gedo Mazo / Cerberus / Other summons all attacking Susano'o at the same time, and we have a clear winner.

You keep saying he will hit Nagato with the shockwave of the sword, but I don't think you realize that if he swung the sword, Shinra Tensei could easily fling it away / change the direction of the moving energy (shock wave)

What else does Madara have? Not clones. Edo Madara had Mokuton clones, Madara himself could not make anywhere close to this amount of clones, not even close, so these shouldn't even be considered because a relatively strong Shinra Tensei will dispose of these as well.


Hashirama's mokuton get's absorbed (not the wood itself, the chakra inside manipulating it) and leaves dead wood which will crumble and lose its forum. It would also get slapped by Shinra Tensei.

His paralyzing pollen will be sensed by Nagato and wafted away with his mastery of wind element.

Hashirama's healing does no good for his soul being ripped out, and certainly not for an Asura Path missile which would destroy his torso / head / CNS, and thing's like Chibaku Tensei / Large Scale Shinra Tensei

Now to all of those things add Gedo Mazo, Cerberus, and other boss level summons constantly harassing them

What else does Hashirama offer? Oh yeah, some large Kunai, but I won't bother discussing.
this^^^

For starters,i was also a guy who thought hashirama>nagato.xd

But then i realised that looking at the feats both have shown nagato is definitely greater.

I know hashi defeated ems madara+kurama.but the fact remains unless kishi reveals more of hashi or shows more techniques that can counter nagato's six paths,it's always gonna be nagato>hashirama.:shrug:

not to forget nagato has all the five elemental jutsus under his bag.:shrug:

and about the Ems sasuke vs Dms kabuto part,

Every guy with a common sense in nb knows Dms kabuto>Ems sasuke.

Sasuke fanboys will be sasuke fanboys.don't bother arguing with them.U_U
some of them will just make it worse by bringing that "lord sasuke" shit up.xd
 
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jeez can't believe people actually believe Nagato can beat normal Madara / edo madara / Hashi or even Itachi ..

Nagato is above kage level shinobi for sure .. but so are those others.

madara and hashi are the two strongest shinobi to have ever lived after the six path sage and probably his two sons.

Nagato does have the rinnegan but that doesn't mean he can beat them -__-
 

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jeez can't believe people actually believe Nagato can beat normal Madara / edo madara / Hashi or even Itachi ..

Nagato is above kage level shinobi for sure .. but so are those others.

madara and hashi are the two strongest shinobi to have ever lived after the six path sage and probably his two sons.

Nagato does have the rinnegan but that doesn't mean he can beat them -__-
You would probably believe them if you put your bias aside and read what they've said and it's supported with manga evidence not just hype.
 

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You would probably believe them if you put your bias aside and read what they've said and it's supported with manga evidence not just hype.
i do agree that alot of things people say here might be true. but it still doesn't change my mind.

Nagato admitted himself that if jiraya found out his secret earlier he would've been beaten ..

Nagato IS strong and might be equal to Itachi (even tho i doubt it) .. but he's nothing compared to hashi or madara.
 
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