Why do people blame it on Plot?

[grizzlyshree]

Why do people blame Plot always? for exeidara lost to Sasuke as a matter of plot. this is a stupid excuse by people in this forum. why cant they accept the story as it is when the battle always went by logic? ican accept certain moments in the manga as a work of plot when it goes against/without a logic. for ex:Mifune taking down great Hanzo when by logic he would have been killed by Hanzos poison.
but why do people in this forum blame the plot for everything? isn't it the plot that killed Jiraiya? isn't the same plot which makes every character relevant?isnt the whole story of Naruto a plot?

I hate when people(especially fanboys) ruling out the antagonists downfall simply as a matter of plot!. isn't the villains powers(abilities) a matter of plot?

 

[Oronagato]

I agree, but Sasuke beating Deidara was plot. It was the ultimate dues ex machina. How could a chakra depleted Sasuke in one second summon manda, control him and escape a 10 km nuke?? That was BS

 

[Aotsuki Katsumi]

You´ve certainly got a point there. Without the plot, this series wouldn´t even be...

 

[Raekwon26]

You would think people would realize by now that 'PLOT' is the entire Manga.

It's a shame.

Preach man. Lay down that truth.

However, you can be upset or annoyed by how something happened, but saying 'PLOT' that's just stupid.

I agree, but Sasuke beating Deidara was plot. It was the ultimate dues ex machina. How could a chakra depleted Sasuke in one second summon manda, control him and escape a 10 km nuke?? That was BS

It's not BS. Show the scan where it says he has no chakra left.

 

[Oronagato]

You would think people would realize by now that 'PLOT' is the entire Manga.

It's a shame.

Preach man. Lay down that truth.

However, you can be upset or annoyed by how something happened, but saying 'PLOT' that's just stupid.

Sasuke beating Deidara technically was the ultimate dues ex machina

 

[FreakensteinAG]

The fights that occur in the manga are essentially "one round of fighting between two people", and these involve literary elements to help trek it along. Some of these fights involve more than one person on the opposing side assisting them. Those among the community believe the outcome would be different were the fight to be 100% objective.

Popular cases are:

SM Naruto versus Pain

Sasuke versus Danzo

Kakashi versus Obito (this involves both parties being 100% healthy).

 

[awesomeseimei]

Sasuke's escape from Deidara is perfectly explainable from the universe's point. I mean, explosions in Naruto are fairly slow with no shockwaves (seriously just look at them) and Sasuke could have used Cursed Seal chakra.

Otherwise, yeah.. Everything is plot in the manga because, well, it's its storyline. People might find flaws in logic/plotholes but blaming "plot" makes no sense.

 

[Raekwon26]

Sasuke beating Deidara technically was the ultimate dues ex machina

He beat him before that.

But, the amount of random crap that has happened in this Manga BEFORE that even occurred is reason for me to believe, stuff like that are possible.

For example: Tobirama losing to some Kin and Gin force. I mean come on? Really?

 

[Oronagato]

He beat him before that.

But, the amount of random crap that has happened in this Manga BEFORE that even occurred is reason for me to believe, stuff like that are possible.

For example: Tobirama losing to some Kin and Gin force. I mean come on? Really?

Tobirama losing to Gin Kin misconception is aggravating and irks me. It was an ambush, whose circumstances are unknown to us. Sasuke escaping Deidara was known and the circumstances were seen by us omniscient audience. Completely different analogies

 

[November]

Then why most of the edo akatsuki member got trolled ?

 

[awesomeseimei]

For example: Tobirama losing to some Kin and Gin force. I mean come on? Really?

We don't even know what was that force. People just assume that Kin and Gin bros beat him, but there were 20 ninja. Even if Kin and Gin were among them, we don't know how strong were the other 18. And yet, simply because they weren't shown, people assume they were some fodder. Evidently they weren't!

 

[sasukekingofuchiha]

I agree, but Sasuke beating Deidara was plot. It was the ultimate dues ex machina. How could a chakra depleted Sasuke in one second summon manda, control him and escape a 10 km nuke?? That was BS

how would a chakra depleted deidara get enough chakra to make himself a bomb lol we can go all day dont be dumb

 

[ReverseZero12]

Something can be plot for several reasons, it depends on the situation. For example, obito not using his rinnegan techs is plot because there's nothing to suggest that he can't use them. It's just simply, he decided not to use them so it's plot. There is no factual argument that supports the fact that he can't use them, if there is any, it's just all theories. Technically, he can use them as he has the eyes.

Another thing would be kakashi beating obito. That was plot because logically, kakashi is far weaker than obito. I mean it's like hashirama losing to jiraiya. Then again, obito was exhausted so you could say that.

A more obvious case would be Naruto Vs Pain.

 

[foxyladyland]

I agree, but Sasuke beating Deidara was plot. It was the ultimate dues ex machina. How could a chakra depleted Sasuke in one second summon manda, control him and escape a 10 km nuke?? That was BS

Sasuke had chakra left, Deidara thought Sasuke didn't have chakra left

Then why most of the edo akatsuki member got trolled ?

they were destined to die as soon as they were shown.. which sucks..
it should have been, I wonder which good guy is going to die next, but it was how are the akatsuki members gonna die?

how would a chakra depleted deidara get enough chakra to make himself a bomb lol we can go all day dont be dumb

he already had his body set up that way before he met sasuke.

 

[sasukekingofuchiha]

Sasuke had chakra left, Deidara thought Sasuke didn't have chakra left

they were destined to die as soon as they were shown.. which sucks..
it should have been, I wonder which good guy is going to die next, but it was how are the akatsuki members gonna die?


he already had his body set up that way before he met sasuke.[/QUO

so your telling me he didnt need chara for that lmao gtfo its still a jutsu

 

[foxyladyland]

so your telling me he didnt need chara for that lmao gtfo its still a jutsu

Neither Deidara nor Sasuke admitted to being out of chakra.
Deidara assumed Sasuke was out of chakra when he turned off his sharingan.
Diedara still had clay left , but his body was badly damaged and he couldn't move his legs much.
Deidara's limit was restricted movement and Sasuke's was running out of chakra, but he wasn't out of chakra
and neither was Deidara. They're bodies were just hurt badly and they couldn't run around anymore.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

There is no such thing as plot no jutsu.

Kishimoto created these characters and if Naruto can fool Kakazu with a shadow clone, then that's just something that can happen. If Sasuke defeats Deidara, then it's just a bad-matchup and Sasuke is able to defeat Deidara.

Plot no jutsu doesn't exist.

 

[SupErAkaTsuKI]

Because they have nothing else to blame:erm:

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Mifune taking down great Hanzo when by logic he would have been killed by Hanzos poison.

By the way, not a plot hole. From when they fought before and Hanzo gave Mifune the antidote out of honour, Mifune's body built a resistance to it.

 

[chopstickchakra]

I agree, but Sasuke beating Deidara was plot. It was the ultimate dues ex machina. How could a chakra depleted Sasuke in one second summon manda, control him and escape a 10 km nuke?? That was BS

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