[Discussion] Why didn't Whitebeard...

[SSS12]

Thre's something in One Piece that has always bothered me. We all know that the war between WB Pirates and Mrines was an all out war, no mercy from either side. Then why didn't Whitebeard kill the admirals when he had the chance?

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He also got a chance to kill a defeated Akainu. Why didn't he take these chances? Surely using Haki doesn't take that much effort, especially for a Top Tier Combatant. Foolish WB. And the Admirals injured as him as best they could.

What do you think?

 

[ekichi onizuka]

he was sick

 

[Avinash012]

Plot hole and WB is sick

 

[vasu 32]

who knows?all i know is that SHANK and his crew was boss,one entrance,one declaration to end the war,and everyone shitted there pants and ended the war.

 

[-R-]

Sick, couldn't do all of his ability. But obviously you're a new viewer of OP, you dont know Oda's idea about mortality. WB blasted both Akianu and BlackBeard with earthquakes in their necks, and head.

 

[David1996]

I guess he's not a killer...

 

[Son Ryuto Uzumaki]

Whitebeard didn't want to kill anymore I think he just didn't have it in him to kill anymore

 

[SSS12]

No. I'm not a new viewer. WB did so after extreme provocation. They were responsible for Ace's fate. If he lacked the intent to kill initially, he never should have showed up at HQ.

I know Oda doesn't even kill suicide bombers though.

 

[SSS12]

And people say Naruto has Plot no Jutsus. This just makes no sense at all. This is worse. Dont' get me wrong MF Arc is the best I've read, but this plothole is unlike Oda.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

He wasn't capable of it. He was very , very ,very sick and also dying. I'm impressed he could even fight on par with them due to the condition he's in. Let alone completely stomp Sakazuki

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Whitebeard did stab him with Haki; however, Aokiji read the attack, and transformed his body before hand. While normally Haki allows one to strike Logia types, in theory a Logia infusing Haki with a pre-transformation would cancel it out.

Alternatively, one could say that he simply transformed his core to ice and moved it before the strike... Meaning he was never even stabbed, but instead Whitebeard stabbed open air with an "Aokiji Doughnut" around his weapon.

 

[SSS12]

He wasn't capable of it. He was very , very ,very sick and also dying. I'm impressed he could even fight on par with them due to the condition he's in. Let alone completely stomp Sakazuki

He seemed to use haki fine against Akainu later, when his condition had worsened and he had suffered several more brutal wounds. Makes no sense.

Stomp Akainu? That's pushing it. Akainu was ambushed. WB got half his face blown off. Who was the one mortally wounded? Akainu recovered fine 10 mins later. Guess what appened then? Even all WB commanders couldn't hold him back then.

Plothole seems like the only explanation.

 

[kmrasengan]

Sick, couldn't do all of his ability. But obviously you're a new viewer of OP, you dont know Oda's idea about mortality. WB blasted both Akianu and BlackBeard with earthquakes in their necks, and head.

Yeah and before that Akainu made a hole on his chest and blew up half his face. So yeah don't just talk about why didn't WB killed both, I'm pretty sure if someone had a hole in the chest and half his face blown up it would instantly die.

OT- I don't care that much tbh, I was very entertained by the war, it showed WB was a beast, and Oda doesn't like to kill anyone unless it's vital to story progression like the death of Ace and WB.

They were the ones that needed to die.

 

[Love Cook]

It's also a bit timeline

If this war was held now after Dressrosa there would be haki all over the place.

The viewers weren't introduced to haki yet.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

He seemed to use haki fine against Akainu later, when his condition had worsened and he had suffered several more brutal wounds. Makes no sense.

Stomp Akainu? That's pushing it. Akainu was ambushed. WB got half his face blown off. Who was the one mortally wounded? Akainu recovered fine 10 mins later. Guess what appened then? Even all WB commanders couldn't hold him back then.

Plothole seems like the only explanation.

Akainu wasn't ambushed. Akainu used Haki and knew Whitebeard was behind him. His face was blown off (Partially) but Akainu was hit with the force of an almost island busting tremor. He barely survived.

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[video=youtube;NZkL4_4Y5jg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkL4_4Y5jg[/video]

Sakazuki seems to be one of the most durable characters in the manga : strength and durability don't have too strong a connection. It's simply what one can and cannot handle in terms of what hits them.

 

[SSS12]

Akainu wasn't ambushed. Akainu used Haki and knew Whitebeard was behind him. His face was blown off (Partially) but Akainu was hit with the force of an almost island busting tremor. He barely survived.

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[video=youtube;NZkL4_4Y5jg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkL4_4Y5jg[/video]
[/SPOILER
]Sakazuki seems to be one of the most durable characters in the manga : strength and durability don't have too strong a connection. It's simply what one can and cannot handle in terms of what hits them.

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If you watch carefully, you'll see a marine informing Akainu that WB is behind him. How could you miss that.

WB wasn't even able to destroy the building, forget the island. Barely survived? Please. Not sure you watched post WB death. Sure, he was temporarily halted by those hits, but when he recovered he was unstoppable. The entire remnants of WB Pirates were helpless to stop him. I'd say he still had plenty of life in him. He is durable alright.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

If you watch carefully, you'll see a marine informing Akainu that WB is behind him. How could you miss that.

By not watching carefully? If he was informed then he wasn't ambushed efficiently. He was aware of WB's presence.

WB wasn't even able to destroy the building

Wasnt the whole of MF plaza and HQ annihilated and crumbling to pieces?

forget the island.

What Island?

Barely survived?

Yep.

Please.

Not a problem dear...

Not sure you watched post WB death. Sure, he was temporarily halted by those hits, but when he recovered he was unstoppable.

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Which is why he was stopped. Right?

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The entire remnants of WB Pirates were helpless to stop him. I'd say he still had plenty of life in him. He is durable alright.

This is true. His durability doesn't state anything about him being stomped by Whitebeard. He was helpless until he got one effective hit : even afterwards when ANYBODY else would die. He was still beating the sh*t out of him. He was dying from this point on. And this is when WB became incapable of killing the Admirals.

Thankyou and goodnight.

 

[TheHokage]

To be honest I don't think Whitebeard could...at the time when Whitebeard was fighting Aokiji and Kizaru he probably at best would have brought them to a tie same with Marco you have to remember Whitebeard was old and sick so he wouldn't have been able to keep up with the fighting style.

With Akainu even in a fit of rage Whitebeard was still struggling with him I mean Akainu took off half of his face and punched a hole in his stomach both fatal wounds and even when Marco and Vista both attacked Akainu with Haki in their attacks they still proved to be ineffective.

Basically Whitebeard with all his crew and his alliances stood no chance against the combined forces off the Marines and the Warlords.

 

[Shinichi Izumi]

You want a plot hole? What the hell were the admirals especially Aokiji and Kizaru were doing the whole war

 

[SSS12]

By not watching carefully? If he was informed then he wasn't ambushed efficiently. He was aware of WB's presence.


Wasnt the whole of MF plaza and HQ annihilated and crumbling to pieces?



What Island?

Yep.

Not a problem dear...

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Which is why he was stopped. Right?

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This is true. His durability doesn't state anything about him being stomped by Whitebeard. He was helpless until he got one effective hit : even afterwards when ANYBODY else would die. He was still beating the sh*t out of him. He was dying from this point on. And this is when WB became incapable of killing the Admirals.





Thankyou and goodnight.

Well, by the time Akainu realized, WB already had an opening. Yes though, as you yourself aptly stated, WB still didn't ambush him efficiently.


Crumbling=Annihilated?

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Wrong. I was referring to WB Pirates only. Duh a Yonko can block his attack, especially when he isn't expecting it.

Wrong again. Stomping=Getting part of you face blown off and reducing your chances of surviving further to 0? You're really funny today.

Not sure he was unwilling to kill any admiral, if he could, because of some misplaced sense of righteousness. That is what this thread was about it. I hope you get it now, since I have stated it as plainly as I could.


Good Night to you too.
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